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I am pretty sure that you will be able to follow the atheltes progress direct from the Berlin marathon website. There are splits every 5k as well as at the Half way point.
It was quite fun to read the boards commentary on my epic blowup there last year :rolleyes::o
Good to know. And I know there's several boardsies doing Berlin that I'll/we all will want to follow and cheer on.....and then give smart commentary to if needed. You should be well ready for that with a few witty words.
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Good to know. And I know there's several boardsies doing Berlin that I'll/we all will want to follow and cheer on.....and then give smart commentary to if needed. You should be well ready for that with a few witty words.
The commentary from 3:10 onwards pretty much mirrors my race last year
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Thursday 13th September (10 miles @ MP with w/u and gentle w/d)
1 @ 9:10
10 @ 7:00
.5 @ 8:50
I was absolutely dreading this run. It was the last tester before the big day and whether it was all in my head or otherwise, I felt sh*te! Legs were dead; I had pains in my neck and shoulders; my head was achy; my knees were tender...get the pic?! I think a lot of it (the phantom pains!) was fear that this one would go bottoms-up and leave my head melted for the next two and a half weeks. Digger had run this session really well the night before and I was bricking it that I wouldn’t even be able to run 1 MP mile. Anyway, all that aside, there was no way this run wasn’t going to happen so the over-thinking of things was just a waste of energy. Route-wise I didn’t know what to do or where to go – I’m sick of the local routes (particularly for the pace stuff) so I headed over to the park to the 3/4 mile loop that myself and TRR had run my MP miles at last week. Given how my head was rebelling against this run, I decided that I’d run the first section up Chesterfield Avenue without looking at the watch. I knew it was about .7 of a mile and I figured it’d be no harm to run by what I thought was marathon effort. Uphill and into the wind, I thought it was going to be an 8:10 mile. It wasn’t... I was fighting away close to HMP. Oops. I knew it was too fast but with the wind all over the shop I couldn’t manage it at all (...well I probably could have but my brain was playing all sorts of games with me and my legs...). To make a short story long, I was way faster than planned pace for the entire run. What was a tough MP effort into the wind was easily HMP as soon as I turned a corner...crazy. I knew I should have been easing off to planned pace but I was a brat. (I better apologise to Digs for giving him an awful earful when he ran faster than he should have for the same run). I was also aware that it was the last hard run before the marathon so no harm in really doing the legs in (without injuring them of course!).
Splits were: 6:46 (too eager) / 6:47 (just plain bold) / 6:57 (eased off but had a bit of a downhill wind...) / 7:08 (uphill into the wind) / 7:09 (as before) / 6:57 (turned a corner and got a bit of respite from the wind as it was coming across me and not a direct headwind) / 6:59 (realised I had to ease off or I’d blow but had some nice shelter and it was a nice descent) / 7:14 (uphill and into the wind but more like it) / 7:13 (uphill and into the wind - wish I could say I was behaving but I was struggling) / 6:54 (last fast mile to really sap the legs!)
I did a half mile warm down back to the car and got a bad stitch – it must be to do with the big change in pace – footfall/breathing/focus etc. Anyway it didn’t matter at that stage.
My Garmin has been acting up and seems to be measuring about .01 extra on every mile of late so I’ve been rounding up my mile splits by a couple of seconds to keep it real. I haven’t rounded those up so for the sake of the safety of underestimation, I’m going to say the 10 miles were at an average of 7:05.
Friday today – We know what that means.... Somebody pass the pies!! Haha...
Really looking forward to pacing the Half tomorrow now. Legs should be well rested with the day off today and had a good shot of the stick this morning
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Friday today – We know what that means.... Somebody pass the pies!! Haha...
I just realised that the way I said that makes it look like I only eat pies on Fridays... that is not true... It's just that on Fridays, I sit on my ass and eat pies; whereas on most other days, as well as eating pies, I run a bit...!!
Last night I had one of these - http://www.marksandspencer.com/Marks-and-Spencer-Millionaires-Shortbread/dp/B005OT551Q
I think Digger is trying to ruin me but it tasted amazing so more fool him for not having his one!
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Last night I had one of these - http://www.marksandspencer.com/Marks-and-Spencer-Millionaires-Shortbread/dp/B005OT551Q
I think Digger is trying to ruin me but it tasted amazing so more fool him for not having his one!
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RacoonQueen wrote: »What about the other three?
It was only a 2-pack... Apparently I have issues with willpower/discipline/self control
He wants to ruin me; he doesn't want to pay for an extra seat on the plane.. 0 -
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Did you eat both of them? Or just one?
The second one wasn't forthcoming. When I mentioned the possibility of having it I got a look saying 'you can not be serious'... So I laughed and pretended I wasn't serious.. haha
I'm going to have to be very careful over the next two weeks!!0 -
Your training times are amazing - I am SO excited for you. I'm sure you are practically out of your skin with anticipation - probably at the point where you are more than ready and just want to get the show on the road. If you go a sub 3 hour...well....then some sort of incredible celebration needs to happening. Maybe involving an entire 4 pack of that tasty confection!! 0
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Your training times are amazing - I am SO excited for you. I'm sure you are practically out of your skin with anticipation - probably at the point where you are more than ready and just want to get the show on the road. If you go a sub 3 hour...well....then some sort of incredible celebration needs to happening. Maybe involving an entire 4 pack of that tasty confection!!
Em...we're not quite there yet... But I wouldn't mind setting some sort of 4-pack confectionary goal in the next 12-18 months.. 0 -
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Just a quick update - I'm very busy going out of my mind here!
Saturday 15th September (Dublin Half Marathon - 1:50 pacing
13.1 @ 8:20
Had a great day out pacing the Half in the park on Saturday. Arrived nice and early to check in and get the pacing gear organised. We had a good laugh and a good group. I didn't notice the miles passing at all. The pace was so comfortable - not a bother on the legs or the lungs, even with all the chats. It's ridiculous to compare it with this time last year!
No official finishing time for me... It looks like the pacing backpack damaged my chip or the way I had the straps tightened caused an issue in the chip being registered but I crossed the line between Chinguetti and Digs, and their times were 1:49.36 and 1:49.41 respectively. So, a job well done 
Really looking forward to pacing the marathon now
Pity about the no-shows in Ryans afterwards (you know who you are) but it was a good laugh while the crowd lasted. I think myself and Digger saw sense somewhere around tea-time and headed home (via the supermarket for some damage control soakage... where neither of us remembered buying the non-winning lotto ticket...) The fact that I was unconscious by 9pm says it all.. I'm well and truly on my best behaviour now.
Sunday 16th September (6 miles recovery)
6 @ 9:20
Very very easy recovery on pretty jaded and lactic-y legs. Run had satisfied it's function by the 4 mile mark - I would have called it a day then had I not been 2 miles from home :rolleyes:
I'm in the full throes of taper madness. The nightmares have started. My teeth were crumbling and falling out in last night's escapades!
Last week I had a dream/nightmare that I was in a plane crash - out of curiosity I looked up what that might mean and discovered the following (which was not overly reassuring!!):- To dream that a plane crashes signifies that you have set overly high and unrealistic goals for yourself. You are in danger of having those goals come crashing down. Alternatively, the crashing airplane represents your lack of confidence, self-defeating attitude and self-doubt. You do not believe in your own ability to achieve those goals. Loss of power and uncertainty in achieving your goals are also signified.
I also had a nightmare on Friday night that I was at the 20 mile mark in Berlin and I wasn't going to break 4 hours. I woke up in a cold sweat absolutely devasted! It's crazy how the brain works. I wish it'd switch off and let me sleep though!0 -
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banner_phoenix wrote: »Great stuff O, just catching up on a lot of your log there. In flying form missus
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This log is mind blowing. Enjoy taper. 0 -
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I also had a nightmare on Friday night that I was at the 20 mile mark in Berlin and I wasn't going to break 4 hours. I woke up in a cold sweat absolutely devasted! It's crazy how the brain works. I wish it'd switch off and let me sleep though!
Ah the dreams - will I remind you of the one I had where I lost a runner and had to hobble the 5 boroughs of New York with? one shoe? Or the time I dreamed that I couldn't run without hanging onto walls and railings at the side of the road? Taper madness, just can't beat it for sheer lunacy! Apart from all that, your training is fantastic at the moment. Hopefully the next few weeks go equally as well - and you don't bate the head off each other when the final week madness sets in 0 -
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What group are you pacing?
That hasn't been decided yet. I'll get myself home from Berlin one working piece and let you know then
Monday 17th September (6 miles easy)
6 @ 8:25
Slightly slower than planned pace of 8:10 but the legs and head just weren't in the mood. I wasn't bothered by it though - the hard work is done so not giving myself a headache unnecessarily over the next couple of weeks.
The legs are desperately in need of a sports massage now - really feeling the effects of the hard training (I'm hoping that's normal / the plan!). Hopefully slurpie's magician will have an appointment for tomorrow or thursday and then another next week.0 -
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Tuesday 18th September (6 miles recovery with strides)
6 miles total
5 @ 8:55/9:00 plus a bunch of strides and a light jog from the entrance of the estate to the gaff.
Another 'vanilla' run. Legs were nice and fatigued so wasn't overly enamored with the thoughts of strides. They warmed up after a bit and were actually ok. Felt a bit better (mentally and physically) than Monday's but still pretty meh!! I'm hoping this is all just as normal as normal can be 12 days before a goal marathon
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Wednesday 18th September (Rest)
Rest...
...on a Wednesday?! This has completely thrown me... Going. Out. Of. My. Mind. And I can't even use the Friday Pie-day excuse to keep me occupied!!
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sounds good, yeah i wouldn't run myself after an intensive massage to get the knots out, kind of defeats the purpose in my experience.
You should get the ledge to go along as well, you might get a discount or a 2 for one deal
Yep so I thought.
I'll see what I can manage re the ledge... he's a procrastinator but if I play the A-goal/sub-19 card he might bite! 0 -
sounds good, yeah i wouldn't run myself after an intensive massage to get the knots out, kind of defeats the purpose in my experience.
You should get the ledge to go along as well, you might get a discount or a 2 for one dealYep so I thought.
I'll see what I can manage re the ledge... he's a procrastinator but if I play the A-goal/sub-19 card he might bite!
The ledge is not a procrastinator, he just likes playing hard to get 0 -
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Thursday 20th September (Mini session - 6 miles w/ 4*1k @ 10k pace w/3minute recovery of choice)
I think I should start listening to music when I'm running to drown out my mind..
*As I was running up to Marlay for this session, I was thinking what a shame it was that I wasn't able to race the Rathfarnham 5k on Sunday.
*As I was doing the 1k repeats, I was thinking that I would never run a 5k or 10k race again in my life. Never. Ever.
*As I was jogging home from Marlay I realised:-
i. I am just not in 5k/10k shape at the minute;
ii. some specific training after Berlin should help things along; and
iii. racing Rathfarnham on Sunday could/would have seriously damaged my confidence.
Anyway - back to the session. Knowing that Marlay is just over 2 miles from my house and 4*1k would be just over 2 miles, I decided that running to the park, doing the 1k laps and running home would be ideal. I switched my watch onto kms - a parallel universe where distance and pace means nothing to me.
I had forgotten what the planned 10k pace was - I knew it was less than 4m/km and thought it was maybe 3:45 - 4. Have just realised having looked at the plan that it was supposed to be 3:50-4. Suffice to say these were manky. Each once was a concerted effort and I do not think I would have been able to string more than a couple together without recoveries...yuck. Splits were 3:55, 3:45 (oops), 3:48 (oops) and 3:53 (ow poor me). So in hindsight, these were on the faster side of things which makes me feel a little better.
Finished up and started trotting home from park nice and easy. It was all grand until I looked at my watch and realised I had almost run 10k. Being mathematically challenged, I don't claim to know much. One thing I do know is that 10k = c.6.2miles. Total session should have been 6 miles and I was still a good 1.5miles from home. In my planning calculations, I had forgotten to include the extra mile+ covered on the recoveries. Whoopsie daisies! So I just eased off and enjoyed a really comfortable jog the rest of the way.
In real understandable language, the total was 7.8 miles @ 8:12:mad:
Thank god I felt ok afterwards as I would seriously be kicking myslef otherwise.
Had a session with Ciaran Fitz afterwards and it was the best money I've spent all year. Legs felt great afterwards. Still feeling good today for Friday Pie-day 0 -
Have never gotten a massage in the build up to a race, but I can see the attraction! Do you really feel the benefits from this or would it be more of a feelgood thing?
Definitely worth it! (Though you may not have thought I'd say that had you heard the language out of my precious mouth during the session...) My legs were in bits all week and I can really feel the benefits of yesterday. We did a decent bit of stretching, back cracking, pushing, pulling... which really loosened everything out and got the blood flowing*
*Don't waste your time with the innuendo lads, I've already thought of everything!! 0 -
Thursday 20th September (Mini session - 6 miles w/ 4*1k @ 10k pace w/3minute recovery of choice)
I think I should start listening to music when I'm running to drown out my mind..
*As I was running up to Marlay for this session, I was thinking what a shame it was that I wasn't able to race the Rathfarnham 5k on Sunday.
*As I was doing the 1k repeats, I was thinking that I would never run a 5k or 10k race again in my life. Never. Ever.
*As I was jogging home from Marlay I realised:-
i. I am just not in 5k/10k shape at the minute;
ii. some specific training after Berlin should help things along; and
iii. racing Rathfarnham on Sunday could/would have seriously damaged my confidence.
Anyway - back to the session. Knowing that Marlay is just over 2 miles from my house and 4*1k would be just over 2 miles, I decided that running to the park, doing the 1k laps and running home would be ideal. I switched my watch onto kms - a parallel universe where distance and pace means nothing to me.
I had forgotten what the planned 10k pace was - I knew it was less than 4m/km and thought it was maybe 3:45 - 4. Have just realised having looked at the plan that it was supposed to be 3:50-4. Suffice to say these were manky. Each once was a concerted effort and I do not think I would have been able to string more than a couple together without recoveries...yuck. Splits were 3:55, 3:45 (oops), 3:48 (oops) and 3:53 (ow poor me). So in hindsight, these were on the faster side of things which makes me feel a little better.
Finished up and started trotting home from park nice and easy. It was all grand until I looked at my watch and realised I had almost run 10k. Being mathematically challenged, I don't claim to know much. One thing I do know is that 10k = c.6.2miles. Total session should have been 6 miles and I was still a good 1.5miles from home. In my planning calculations, I had forgotten to include the extra mile+ covered on the recoveries. Whoopsie daisies! So I just eased off and enjoyed a really comfortable jog the rest of the way.
In real understandable language, the total was 7.8 miles @ 8:12:mad:
Thank god I felt ok afterwards as I would seriously be kicking myslef otherwise.
Had a session with Ciaran Fitz afterwards and it was the best money I've spent all year. Legs felt great afterwards. Still feeling good today for Friday Pie-day
Finally, some numbers in this log that I understand!! If 3:50/km is your 10k pace, then its not just digger than needs to be worried around here.
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Friday 7th September (18-20 miles - 8 easy, 6 @ MP, 1 recovery, 2 @ HMP, 3 cool down)
20 @ 7:54 (total overall average)
I had left everything ready the night before because I knew there'd be no time for faffing around if I was going to get this bad boy done. Fell into my gear when the alarm went off for the second time at 6:58am, took one bite of a cereal bar and a mouthful of water and headed out the door. I had purposely stuffed my face and had a fair bit of water just before bed so I knew I was pretty well fueled. It was a dull and windy ole morning but I knew I'd be warm in no time.
For the sake of my mental health, I split this run into 5 separate runs and just focused on getting through each one individually. I took an isogel at 5 miles as per the plan. I have found doing long runs around Dublin can be mentally tough because it's so small - after 8 miles I found myself in Clondalkin. First 8 miles were 8:27,8:17, 8:10, 8:08, 8:07, 8:15, 8:20, 8:20 - I'd be lying if I said I wasn't pretty wrecked after these - I was working way harder than I think I should have been but then again I was pretty creaky having just gotten out of bed.
Then, as if being in Clondalkin wasn't bad enough, I was just about to start the MP section uphill and into the wind. I could have turned around and taken an easy route but that would have been a copout so I kept going. After a couple of miles, there was a bit of reprieve from the wind; it was over my shoulder and the road flattened out a bit so I was glad I'd put my back into it at the start. Took another isogel at 10 miles - this was the first time I'd tried to take at a pace faster than LSR and it was a bit fidgety but I needed to practice. The MP miles were a little fast and I was fecked finishing them. Trying to cross the road at the Walkinstown Roundabout 5.5 miles into the MP section was a right pain. Splits for this section -7:13, 7:17, 7:13, 7:08, 7:19, 7:16.
The recovery mile was a little fast but much welcomed and an opportunity to take the last gel of the day (just before the 15 mile mark) - 8:27.
I was just outside Bushy Park when the time came to hit the HMP miles which was perfect timing. These 2 miles blew! I couldn't get keep the pace at the pace I had run for an entire half marathon less than 2 weeks previous - should have been 6:44/5 and it was TOUGH! I had a really bad stitch for the last half mile and just couldn't (didn't:o) push any harder - 6:51, 6:48.
Last 3 miles were a nice steady climb home. I just trotted home nice and easy, basically letting the legs do whatever the flock they wanted - 8:51, 8:33, 8:27.
This session was hard going but a great one for the confidence. Legs were tired and lower back was a little sore when I finished but I came around for a few hours. Was starving and exhausted in the afternoon but an outdoor power nap while Digger was "fishing":rolleyes: in the Boyne sorted me out again. So all in all, not too much damage done
Saturday 8th September (rest or 30 minutes recovery)
3.1 @ 9:50
A pre-breakfast run to loosen out the grandma legs which had deadened completely overnight - probably the hardest yuckiest run of the week. The blood was just starting to flow as we were finishing but they were fooked!!
Legs are still a bit heavy and achy today so hopefully a good recovery this evening will sort them right out.
I can't believe race day is so close now...:eek:
Great session and a great idea to split the milage up like that.
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Saturday 22nd September (depending on legs - 12 miles easy max but 60 minutes sufficient)
8.2 @ 8:17
Had a busy day on Saturday and was stuck for time as evening rolled around. Then when I had a window of opportunity, I procrastinated in a way one wouldn't believe possible. It was the closest I've come to giving a run a miss in this entire marathon training schedule. I knew from the off that my head wasn't in the game. I just wasn't bothered... It kind of worried me because it was the last "long" run before the big day but at the same time I knew that ultimately it wasn't going to have any impact on the marathon. I was in bad form and pretty agitated; that manifested itself physically with strained shoulders and stitches, so when I got close to home after 7 miles I decided to call it a day. The legs were feeling good so I suppose there's something positive in that.
Sunday 23rd September (4 miles recovery)
Rathfarnham 5k... 1 w/u @ 9:00 / 3.1 @ 7:59
Having been forbidden to race this, I had resigned myself to the idea that I would be hanging around the finish line for approximately 19 minutes to cheer on the Digger. However, a good friend of mine who had a PB of 26:11 was running it and, given that I'm addicted to 5k races and pacing, I took this as a perfect opportunity to damage a good friendship in her quest for a sub-25. Not going to write a long report - suffice to say that, as expected, she wanted to absolutely kill me from about half way in. She found it tough going but I knew she had it in her so I figured she'd get over the pain and her annoyance at my "gentle encouragement" as soon as we crossed the finish line. We finished in 24:54 and she was absolutely delighted once she got her breath back. I found the pace easy breezy and the distraction brought me a day closer to Berlin. It was so nice to enjoy the race atmosphere with no pressure. Was absolutely delighted for Digs and his great time - nice for him to have something to boast about other than me for a change Caught up with a few of the lads afterwards - ray, micilín, jcsmum - great runs all round
The Rathfarnham 5k is a great race - nice and local, fantastically organised and with a brilliant atmosphere. Really looking forward to running it next year and doing some damage to my time... (I forgot to mention that 24:54 was in fact a course record for me...:o)0 -
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