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The Walking Dead - Season 2 [AMC - US] *Spoilers*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭Victor_M


    PomBear wrote: »
    February 12, 2012 :(

    Anywhere can you watch the talking dead online?

    Don't know, I'm in the US at the moment but I'm sure your local friendly torrent site may be able to help with that!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,983 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    PomBear wrote: »
    February 12, 2012 :(

    Anywhere can you watch the talking dead online?

    they have an after after show bit on the amc website but not the actual after show.

    ...finally!

    i've started reading the comics and oh my god, they're brutal, brutal and crude, i can appreciate the tv show is a bit more subtle, hopefully we'll see rick start doing what he needs to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    That was a good mid-season end. I would say though....it would have had the same impact after 3 episodes of the season than waiting for the 7th. They could have cut out some of the filler and still wowed people with that scene. I'm about to get specific so don't read on unless you have watched it.
    One thing bothered me about it. There were about 20 zombies in the barn. Glenn got a good look at them all when he first discovered the barn. How would you not spot a little girl among them? I know it was for plot purposes, but it was silly nontheless.

    Herschell is a dead man walking. No way in hell the group will let him live. Although I can see them debating to kill, forgive or throw him off the farm.......and then a load of zombies attacking while they argue about what to do with him. He dies and they all flee and the story moves on. I'm expecting to see that in Feb when it returns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Giruilla


    That season ending sounds very good. Did they really need to be on that farm for 6 episodes (6 hours of tv) before that happened though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭stomprockin


    Going by everyone's comments I'm looking forward to watching Episode 7 later :)
    Is it really that good :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    Going by everyone's comments I'm looking forward to watching Episode 7 later :)
    Is it really that good :)
    But why are you reading the thread before watching and risking getting spoiled? :confused:

    Anyway just
    how did Sophia end up in the barn if Herschel and the others knew the group were looking for a little girl?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Kells...


    Well they were trying to hide the barn so they didn't want to tell them because that would reveal it :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    amazing episode, really got chills at the end

    Shane is a proper bad-ass, my favorite character by far at the moment


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Kirby wrote: »
    One thing bothered me about it. There were about 20 zombies in the barn. Glenn got a good look at them all when he first discovered the barn. How would you not spot a little girl among them? I know it was for plot purposes, but it was silly nontheless.
    Wasn't it pitch dark when Glen first entered the barn. He panicked when he heard/seen the walkers, plus with 20 of them a little girl wouldn't be that visible when there so spread out or what not, don't think its so unreasonable!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    amazing episode. really heart wrenching at the end.
    i actually felt more sorry for hershal that carol for some strange reason. you could tell by his face that the man is completely broken now. although what happened was a sad thing to do in the world of survival it had to be done.
    . have to say as well it was all filmed brilliantly and the use of music was good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,116 ✭✭✭Professional Griefer


    Finally.

    But now 2odd months till the next episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭Victor_M


    DeepBlue wrote: »
    But why are you reading the thread before watching and risking getting spoiled? :confused:

    Anyway just
    how did Sophia end up in the barn if Herschel and the others knew the group were looking for a little girl?

    According to the writers last night on the talking dead -
    Only Otis used to collect the walkers for the farm and he wasn't aware that they were looking for a girl, when Herschall was showing Rick how to catch them with the neck collars he said this is where Otis collects them, that explains why Daryll found the teddy bear close by too, and yes it was always dark when they looked into the barn so it would have been easy to miss her


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Why all the 'Spoiler' tags???

    This thread is for the [AMC- US] pace of the show, and the latest episode has been in the ether for over 12 hours at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Shane was awesome in that episode his best by far

    I think everyone kinda knew or had guessed that Sophie was in the barn so no surprises there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭ratedR


    Wow.

    The few slow paced episodes were worth it for that. Absolutely awesome. Shane is a hero.

    Pity we have to wait for 2 months though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭TheInquisitor


    Episode 7 is the best epsiode so far without a doubt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    i always love a good rant, was nearly as good as clooney at the end of from dusk till dawn :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    Apologies for being a jonny come lately lads but has The walking dead started up again? I was watching it on rte 2 and it ended with the survivors escaping from a disease control centre which had just exploded.
    Has there been any episodes after that shown on terestrial tv?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭OctavarIan


    Goddamn Shane was brilliant in that episode. They really built him up nicely.
    tunguska wrote: »
    Apologies for being a jonny come lately lads but has The walking dead started up again? I was watching it on rte 2 and it ended with the survivors escaping from a disease control centre which had just exploded.
    Has there been any episodes after that shown on terestrial tv?

    Nope, that was the end of Season 1. The first seven episodes of Season 2 have aired in the US with the rest due to air in February. Not sure when they'll air them over here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    Finally an entertaining and good episode. Only took them 7 feckin episodes to get there sadly.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    well it was always going to happen that way but at least it was done well.. eventually


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    Wow.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭red dave


    red dave wrote: »
    Only in the series finale will they actually go to the barn which is metres away from them to find a zombie version of the guy and missing girl.

    From two weeks ago...nearly got it. Although in fairness I'd say it was predictable for most that she was in the barn.

    I thought this was another poor episode. Will wait until the series is finished before deciding to watch any more. That half season should have been shown in 2 episodes....there have been 7 episodes.

    Seriously watching paint dry entertainment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭stealinhorses


    Absolutely loved that episode, fantastic ending. The last few episodes of build up were worth it and made it that much more heartbreaking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭stomprockin


    DeepBlue wrote: »
    But why are you reading the thread before watching and risking getting spoiled? :confused:

    Anyway just
    how did Sophia end up in the barn if Herschel and the others knew the group were looking for a little girl?

    Didn't read the Spoilers, Strong will power me :pac:

    I know a lot of peeps suggested that she could of been in the barn but i genuinely thought they would find her alive. Enjoyed it all the same.


  • Registered Users Posts: 282 ✭✭Kettle316


    Am I the only person who didn't enjoy that episode at all??

    The girl being in the barn has been so glaringly obvious from the second we found out about Herschel keeping walkers in there!! She was never realistically going to survive on her own in a forest full of zombies!!

    I've a pain in the hole with this programme.....it's such a missed opportunity because the comics are meant to be fantastic but this is just really poorly written and acted!! None of the characters (bar maybe the redneck dude) have any dept whatsoever so I really am struggling to give a sh*t what happens to them!! The only reason I seem to be watching this now is to see how much worse it can get as the weeks go on!!

    How more people watch this than watch Breaking Bad I'll never know??


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    what an amazing ep, so so sad at the end with sophia:( such a well done scene though! the music, sophia creeping out of the barn so slowly,hershel completely broken ...i thought it was very well done how you coud just see the whole of ricks group and greene family morale just plunge, all lying there crying,shocked..just such a good scene! shane is such a great character now, god i thought he was gonna kill dale for a sec, hes so unpredictable. maggie and glenn are a good couple now, both good characters especially glenn.liked maggies little speech with hershel about letting the group stay. hershel was just amazing in the episode! during the scene where they were shooting the zombie, god just such a good scene pity it was in episode 7 though! ok so ep 1 of s2 was good, ep2 good, ep3 where otis was killed was good, e4,5,6 fairly good but not much happened in them. would have been a great season if we just had ep123 and 7:p but i suppose all the characters were developed nicely over the season i really like andrea now! i actually am really getting to love all the cast now! bar the bad characters..tdog..lori(liked lori in that ep though)..and others who have no lines etc:p but i like all the main characters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭red dave


    Kettle316 wrote: »
    Am I the only person who didn't enjoy that episode at all??

    The girl being in the barn has been so glaringly obvious from the second we found out about Herschel keeping walkers in there!! She was never realistically going to survive on her own in a forest full of zombies!!

    I've a pain in the hole with this programme.....it's such a missed opportunity because the comics are meant to be fantastic but this is just really poorly written and acted!! None of the characters (bar maybe the redneck dude) have any dept whatsoever so I really am struggling to give a sh*t what happens to them!! The only reason I seem to be watching this now is to see how much worse it can get as the weeks go on!!

    How more people watch this than watch Breaking Bad I'll never know??

    I agree with you 100%.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Well I'd like to say I called it earlier in this thread, but as already mentioned it was so stunningly obvious Sophie was in the barn. To be honest, finally getting closure on this element merely highlighted how teeth-grindingly annoying the whole thread was in the first instance.

    We spent 6 episodes watching our group peeling carrots, debating with Hershel and delaying the inevitable of a pointless plotline. Made all the more laughable by the fact nobody, at any point, thought of LOOKING IN THE BARN in case Sophie snuck in there. They searched everywhere except the immediate environs.

    I got to be honest, if this episode showed any signs of improvement, it's simply because the one usable card got played 5 episodes too late.

    You have to wonder if the remaining half of the series is going to play out in the same fashion - 5/6 episodes of filler & limbo? No thank you lads, I'm out if that's the case.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    aye, it more than likely wont change too much. the last half will be as slow as the first, it will just be something else they tease us with for 6-7 episodes and then cram into the last 5 minutes of the season

    ill probably keep watching this season, just on the off chance it gets better but I really don't see myself watching season 3. if I dropped Dexter after that last season, I really can't in good conscience keep watching the walking dead after all this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 324 ✭✭Wereghost


    Just voted. Based on season one I gave it a "meh",though I'm about halfway between that and "good". There's nothing terribly wrong with it, but its best aspects have been done better by other shows (eg Battlestar's two seasons). I guess the zombie genre strikes a chord with some people more than others.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Well I'd like to say I called it earlier in this thread, but as already mentioned it was so stunningly obvious Sophie was in the barn. To be honest, finally getting closure on this element merely highlighted how teeth-grindingly annoying the whole thread was in the first instance.

    We spent 6 episodes watching our group peeling carrots, debating with Hershel and delaying the inevitable of a pointless plotline. Made all the more laughable by the fact nobody, at any point, thought of LOOKING IN THE BARN in case Sophie snuck in there. They searched everywhere except the immediate environs.

    I got to be honest, if this episode showed any signs of improvement, it's simply because the one usable card got played 5 episodes too late.

    You have to wonder if the remaining half of the series is going to play out in the same fashion - 5/6 episodes of filler & limbo? No thank you lads, I'm out if that's the case.
    but the thing is i bet youll keep watching;) i here so many people saying this season is boring but the show hasnt lost a viewer i dont think this whole season!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    trailer for next episode in feb! this season hershel goes missing..we look for him for 5 episodes :rolleyes: then in season finale turns out he done hid int the basement for the second half of the season:p
    http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/11/walking-dead-season-2-new-episodes-in.html


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    but the thing is i bet youll keep watching;) i here so many people saying this season is boring but the show hasnt lost a viewer i dont think this whole season!

    I've happily stopped watching shows I enjoyed more than Walking Dead; Most recently, Fringe season 4 I gave up on & was an avid viewer seasons 1-3.

    I honestly don't see the point in giving the 2nd half of series 2 a chance. I'll keep an eye on the reviews yes, but I won't be watching the show. If the dust settles & the second half turns out to have been decent, I'll go back and watch it; but I certainly won't be tuning in as it airs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭red dave


    Thing is when i mentioned about her been in the barn before it was a total sarcastic remark in thinking surely the writers wouldn't play such a lazy card.
    Seriously the amount of episodes dedicated to it is so ridiculous. It was a really annoying ending.

    wasn't the main creator/producer? of the series fired(or resigned) after this episode was made or something to that effect? Maybe there will be change of pace for the 2nd half of the season like maybe they'll do a 24 style where each episode is based on real-time...1 hour spent waking up and making breakfast, next hour burying the zombie bodies etc. Gripping stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    I don't no about others but the main whining about the first season was know one cared about the characters but the action was good, the second season people are saying they're talking too much and there is not enough action!

    I really care about and understand most of the characters now(except for tdog, sophias mother and lori to an extent), if the next few episodes in the new year bring alot of twists/action its going to be awesome. Truly addicted to this show - Have stayed up till 2 AM every Sunday to watch it!

    And the final scene ending where Rick had to take over and do something that Shane reluctantly couldn't was poetry in motion. He regained his leader status right there with one bullet.

    Edit: Also the part where Shane is running and says "who is that" grunt "WHO IS THAT" bigger grunt was so funny :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭KeanSeenan


    Lucky for me when I watched this the audio was out of synch for the last 5 minutes, so yeah that took away the only good part of it. They're gonna need to introduce some child for Carl to get cosy with now. Also, Dale was acting very foolishly today, don't think they've developed how he feels for Andrea enough to warrant that much jealousy over Shane. Poor Stuff.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    KeanSeenan wrote: »
    Lucky for me when I watched this the audio was out of synch for the last 5 minutes, so yeah that took away the only good part of it. They're gonna need to introduce some child for Carl to get cosy with now. Also, Dale was acting very foolishly today, don't think they've developed how he feels for Andrea enough to warrant that much jealousy over Shane. Poor Stuff.
    I didn't think it was jealousy at all tbh.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    nuxxx wrote: »
    I don't no about others but the main whining about the first season was know one cared about the characters but the action was good, the second season people are saying they're talking too much and there is not enough action!

    I really care about and understand most of the characters now(except for tdog, sophias mother and lori to an extent), if the next few episodes in the new year bring alot of twists/action its going to be awesome. Truly addicted to this show - Have stayed up till 2 AM every Sunday to watch it!

    And the final scene ending where Rick had to take over and do something that Shane reluctantly couldn't was poetry in motion. He regained his leader status right there with one bullet.

    Edit: Also the part where Shane is running and says "who is that" grunt "WHO IS THAT" bigger grunt was so funny :)
    finally someone who understands me:D i love all the characters too, there all so good, bar the ones you mentioned who i agree on! everyone is so critical of this brilliant show:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭KeanSeenan


    I didn't think it was jealousy at all tbh.

    Well, I think jealousy is what tipped him over the edge, he obviously is scared of what he's capable of, but why now?Aside from him doing the only female character he has any connection with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Samba


    I'm sorry I ever tried to defend this show now, its become about as exciting as a zombie with no limbs or teeth.


  • Registered Users Posts: 282 ✭✭Kettle316


    nuxxx wrote: »
    I don't no about others but the main whining about the first season was know one cared about the characters but the action was good, the second season people are saying they're talking too much and there is not enough action!

    It's not the lack of action that has been the problem though it's down to the extremely lazy writing and poor acting!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    You jerks!!! I went into tonight's episode with slightly heightened expectations after reading some of the enthusiasm on this and the "shows you've stopped watching thread". I told my husband when he got home from work that it was supposed to actually be a decent episode and he laughed at me. But we settled in to watch it and were bored for 40 minutes, occasionally frightening our dogs when one of us would spontaneously shout at some whining character to hurry up and do something interesting or just die already. Finally the climatic scene came along and all that happened was an even more boring version of what everyone knew would happen by episode 3. Not good television.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭JohnK


    Granted its a bit of a small point but could there be more to Otis rounding up the walkers than meets the eye? Given the time lines he must have found Sophie the same day she went missing or at the latest the following morning since he was around the farm with the group once Carl got shot, right? So is there any chance he could have found her alive and just threw her into the barn? I'm probably clutching at straws here but it could be a way for the writers to redeem Shane and his actions if it turns out Otis was chucking small children into a killer hoard of zombies.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    On October 16, 2011, the season two premiere set a new record of 7.3 million viewers. The episode also set new records for the most viewers in the 18–49 and 25–54 demographics, with 4.8 million and 4.2 million viewers respectively, making it the most watched episode of a drama in the history of basic cable television in these measures.

    They must be doing something right!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    JohnK wrote: »
    Granted its a bit of a small point but could there be more to Otis rounding up the walkers than meets the eye? Given the time lines he must have found Sophie the same day she went missing or at the latest the following morning since he was around the farm with the group once Carl got shot, right? So is there any chance he could have found her alive and just threw her into the barn? I'm probably clutching at straws here but it could be a way for the writers to redeem Shane and his actions if it turns out Otis was chucking small children into a killer hoard of zombies.

    Interesting point considering he has says all along she is dead, and Shane repeated this again before opening the barn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Finally, an episode where something happened, just a pity it's six weeks late. I'm referring to the zombie shoot of course, because the Sophia reveal at the end was predictable, and kind of stupid.

    As for her being in the barn at all, I just don't believe the time line stacks up. So she runs away, gets lost, gets attacked and bitten (but not eaten, obviously), so she somehow got away. Then she dies later, and after several hours comes back as a walker. Then she somehow gets trapped by Otis and brought to the barn. All this happens in what, 24-48 hours, because that's when Carl gets shot.

    A ridiculous and lazy plot, written by lazy writers.

    Overall, I'd give this first half of the season 1 out of 5. Also, having a mid season break in a show with only 13 episodes is a pile of crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    nuxxx wrote: »
    On October 16, 2011, the season two premiere set a new record of 7.3 million viewers. The episode also set new records for the most viewers in the 18–49 and 25–54 demographics, with 4.8 million and 4.2 million viewers respectively, making it the most watched episode of a drama in the history of basic cable television in these measures.

    They must be doing something right!
    But that was before the long, drawn-out search-fest that was the last 6 episodes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    i love how people continually bitch about this programme...


    ..and then prompty tune back in next week !

    :)

    personally i thought it was great. theres some brilliant tension now between alot of the characters, dale and shane is a stand out - i really wasnt sure who would shoot who. in regards to dales conversation to andrea, yeah there probably is a bit of jealously but i think dales main motivation is the knowledge shane would just as happily leave her as zombie fodder if it came down to his neck like he did with otis.

    as dale said, shane is made for this world and ive no problem believing the bloke would do it.

    we ALL saw the ending a mile off but TBH i dont mind that much as it was such a potent scene. you just KNEW sophia coming out would be the only thing to shame shane, just as i knew the one to put the bullet in her HAD to be rick.

    it was practically poetic and ya dont see that that much on the telly.

    as others said though its herschel who took it the worst, i thought it was a fantastic bit of acting on the actors part. he doesnt say a damn word but you can see his world falling apart.

    also now i can actually NAME all the characters. i loved season 1 but i really hadnt a monkies who was who as half the time the zombies spoilt any chance to really get to know theses people. i agree that this season was drawn out but at least now i give a feck about some of them.

    what comes next now is purely based on character and i dont know how herschel will react, certainly up to now i seen shane trying to take the farm by force but after what went down i dont know.

    either way i'll be there in feb to find out !

    :)


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