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Limerick City constituency

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  • #152
    watchingthepols
    Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭watchingthepols


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    The Council appoints that, not the Gardai, afaik, and they can't object to who's on it.

    Thats very true, the Gardai have to deal with all kinds of people.

    where%27s+willie.jpg


  • #153
    molard
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭molard


    i see the election campain has started mossy has his poster up near thomand park.beside his is gerry adams i see he is not using his new title of baron since he is no longer a mp.will these posters be concerned littering in the eyes of the littering laws.we wait and see.


  • #154
    RonMexico
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    molard wrote: »
    i see the election campain has started mossy has his poster up near thomand park.beside his is gerry adams i see he is not using his new title of baron since he is no longer a mp.will these posters be concerned littering in the eyes of the littering laws.we wait and see.

    Haven't much to worry about, do you?



    Meanwhile the country goes up in flames. :rolleyes:


  • #155
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭flutered


    molard wrote: »
    i see the election campain has started mossy has his poster up near thomand park.beside his is gerry adams i see he is not using his new title of baron since he is no longer a mp.will these posters be concerned littering in the eyes of the littering laws.we wait and see.

    the guy has been slandered, collected for it, he has been found guilty of no crime, he is entitled to run for office as is gerry adams, just what is your beef, as for littering, are sinn fein the only party that litters, i doubt it said croker.


  • #156
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    flutered wrote: »
    the guy has been slandered, collected for it, he has been found guilty of no crime, he is entitled to run for office as is gerry adams, just what is your beef, as for littering, are sinn fein the only party that litters, i doubt it said croker.

    Interesting phrase to use in relation to SF, apt too.


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  • #157
    liammur
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    It will be interesting to see if M Martin has any impact locally. Being a munster man, one would suspect he might, just a pity as a minister for trade and enterprise he failed this region as abysmally as Mary Harney. :mad:


  • #158
    Browney7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Browney7


    Latest odds from Paddy Power. Giving Leddin a shout so they are. Obviously missing a few candidates.

    Willie O'Dea 1/40
    Michael Noonan 1/20
    Jan O'Sullivan 1/14
    Kieran O'Donnell 8/11
    Joe Leddin 1/1
    Maurice Quinlivan 7/4
    Peter Power 5/2


  • #159
    watchingthepols
    Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭watchingthepols


    Browney7 wrote: »
    Latest odds from Paddy Power. Giving Leddin a shout so they are. Obviously missing a few candidates.

    Willie O'Dea 1/40
    Michael Noonan 1/20
    Jan O'Sullivan 1/14
    Kieran O'Donnell 8/11
    Joe Leddin 1/1
    Maurice Quinlivan 7/4
    Peter Power 5/2

    The odds on Leddin no way represent value for money. I don't see him as being as short as being even money. I would see him as realistically having something like a 4/1 chance. Paddy Power needs to try offer some decent odds. I suppose the bookie is thinking that the election will bring out even more mug punters than usual. No punter with cop on would go anyplace near these bad value odds.


  • #160
    L.T.P.
    Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭L.T.P.


    molard wrote: »
    i see the election campain has started mossy has his poster up near thomand park.beside his is gerry adams i see he is not using his new title of baron since he is no longer a mp.will these posters be concerned littering in the eyes of the littering laws.we wait and see.

    Its on private property so its not littering :D


  • #161
    vkid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭vkid


    can't believe there are 13 people that would vote FF after all they have done (or not done in Limericks case)

    De mind is boggling


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  • #162
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    watchingthepols wrote: »
    The odds on Leddin no way represent value for money. I don't see him as being as short as being even money. I would see him as realistically having something like a 4/1 chance. Paddy Power needs to try offer some decent odds. I suppose the bookie is thinking that the election will bring out even more mug punters than usual. No punter with cop on would go anyplace near these bad value odds.

    Paddy Power didn't get rich by giving away money, I presume they've done research and reckon that the above is the likely finishing order. I reckon they've the order roughly right tbh.


  • #163
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,694 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Remember that Paddy power's odds (and those of any bookmaker) have very little to do with what they think will be the outcome of a particular event, and have everything to do with what prices they think they need to offer to maximise profits from the punter.


  • #164
    liammur
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    vkid wrote: »
    can't believe there are 13 people that would vote FF after all they have done (or not done in Limericks case)

    De mind is boggling

    Agreed.
    We can't complain about not getting jobs etc if we continue to vote for FF, because it means we are happy with our lot.


  • #165
    allimac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭allimac


    It looks as if Kevin Kiely will now run as an independent.Article in the Limerick post today,can't find a link,This should throw a spanner in the works as I reckon he will get a lot of working class votes particularly on the northside of town.


  • #166
    RonMexico
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    I was wondering when that buffoon would show up. :rolleyes:


  • #167
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Lads and ladies,

    In order to keep this thread open, I'll henceforth be enforcing a "no abuse of politicians" rule. I totally understand why people are ridiculing politicians. But, that doesn't mean I'm happy to let it continue. Keep it civil and we'll keep this running here. Continue the silliness and all further political will be directed to the Politics Forum, where modding tends to be a lot stricter.

    Thanks. :)

    Edit: Link to new Boards.ie General Election 2011 forum: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1431


  • #168
    allimac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭allimac


    RonMexico wrote: »
    I was wondering when that buffoon would show up. :rolleyes:
    As opposed to all the other intellectuals that are running?


  • #169
    L.T.P.
    Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭L.T.P.


    allimac wrote: »
    As opposed to all the other intellectuals that are running?

    :D I reckon he makes the rest of them look like college professors


  • #170
    allimac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭allimac


    L.T.P. wrote: »
    :D I reckon he makes the rest of them look like college professors
    :DYou mean they work two hours a day,make 80 grand a year and get three months off in the summer?


  • #171
    bernardo mac
    Registered Users Posts: 903 ✭✭✭bernardo mac


    Utterly depressing that O'Dea should score so highly


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  • #172
    liammur
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    bernardo mac wrote: »
    Utterly depressing that O'Dea should score so highly

    I've long noted that Kerry also has got practically no IDA jobs under FF. So I had a look at paddypower to see how many FF tds would be returned in kerry, and I have to say, well done Kerry - looks like none will be.


  • #173
    Xennon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Xennon


    Why are we electing anyone?...

    rant

    Ok, so maybe Im a bit off the wall here, but why are we electing people into the same system that allows them to put us where we are now?

    Why doesnt the ballot paper have a 'None of the above' box? which if scored high would mean there would have to be new people chosen to run.

    Why dont we have a system that if you dont vote you are fined?

    The system has failed and continues to do so, yet we continue to feed it.
    There needs to be a change....there needs to be accountability....

    /rant


  • #174
    liammur
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    Xennon wrote: »
    Why are we electing anyone?...

    rant

    Ok, so maybe Im a bit off the wall here, but why are we electing people into the same system that allows them to put us where we are now?

    Why doesnt the ballot paper have a 'None of the above' box? which if scored high would mean there would have to be new people chosen to run.

    Why dont we have a system that if you dont vote you are fined?

    The system has failed and continues to do so, yet we continue to feed it.
    There needs to be a change....there needs to be accountability....

    /rant

    Yes, i agree but don't fall in to M Martin 'political reform' trap.


  • #175
    D1stant
    Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    Firstly I should apologise.. I'm new in town and therefore do not know local politicians ('sides Willie O Dear) and I havent read all the posts

    But Im not voting FF/FG or Lab. That much I know

    Who is independent and does anyone have poicy links? SF is last resort

    Shame that Dublin gets the Shane Ross / Paul Sommerville types.. havent heard of good indies declaring elsewhere


  • #176
    Kess73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    O'Dea doing the rounds this morning. He was in the Ballinacurra road/Ballinacurra gardens area about 20 minutes ago when I was passing. He had 15, yes 15, little helpers with him.

    Talk about arriving mob handed to avoid tricky questions.

    With a bit of luck he will be heading out here to Dooradoyle once he is done in there.


  • #177
    liammur
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    D1stant wrote: »
    Firstly I should apologise.. I'm new in town and therefore do not know local politicians ('sides Willie O Dear) and I havent read all the posts

    But Im not voting FF/FG or Lab. That much I know

    Who is independent and does anyone have poicy links? SF is last resort

    Shame that Dublin gets the Shane Ross / Paul Sommerville types.. havent heard of good indies declaring elsewhere

    Paul Sommerville is certainly someone I would like to see elected, Shane Ross is average at best imo


  • #178
    ShatterProof
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭ShatterProof


    Spokesperson on Communications, Energy & Natural Resources Willie O'Dea TD !!!!


  • #179
    RonMexico
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    O'Dea appointed to Martin's frontbench and handed the Communications portfolio..

    The more things change, the more they stay the same.:rolleyes:


  • #180
    liammur
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    A useless portfolio.

    A vote for willie = a wasted vote. That would hold true even if he were taoiseach lol


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  • #181
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭flutered


    i had to go into town this morning, posters of heffernan lag and power ff adorning the landscape from caherconlish to limerick, up before the election had been announced thus breaking the law.


  • #182
    RonMexico
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Early election posters are the least of our worries. Also if the posters are on private property I don't think it applies.

    Lets not get distracted from the important issues here.


  • #183
    Kess73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    flutered wrote: »
    i had to go into town this morning, posters of heffernan lag and power ff adorning the landscape from caherconlish to limerick, up before the election had been announced thus breaking the law.



    Seems there were posters up from last week in some counties going by what was being said on the Matt Cooper show last week.

    What was comical was the guy from the NRA asking, yes asking, if those putting up political posters on roundabouts could place them higher so motorists could see, despite it being illegal to put the posters there in the first place.


  • #184
    thesimpsons
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭thesimpsons


    flutered wrote: »
    up before the election had been announced thus breaking the law.


    they aren't breaking the law (unfortunately cos I'd love to have them removed and/or the politicians fined). posters can go up when election is called or 30 days before election - whichever is the shorter time frame.


  • #185
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭flutered


    will all the partys canvass or will it be individuals who will call, has anyone had canvasers, if so what tribe did they belong to, what was their speil.


  • #186
    molard
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭molard


    had leddin last saturday. to early for me to get up.would have enjoyed a chat .i see ower has a large poster outside westbury estate.why is the ff logo so small.


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  • #187
    L.T.P.
    Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭L.T.P.


    molard wrote: »
    had leddin last saturday. to early for me to get up.would have enjoyed a chat .i see ower has a large poster outside westbury estate.why is the ff logo so small.

    He is probably ashamed to be associated with them :D


  • #188
    Kess73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    thesimpsons wrote: »
    they aren't breaking the law (unfortunately cos I'd love to have them removed and/or the politicians fined). posters can go up when election is called or 30 days before election - whichever is the shorter time frame.


    Pretty sure the Willie O Dea posters that were being put up on the actual roundabout signs on the Ballysimon road roundabout nearest Harvey Norman about 30 minutes ago are being illegally placed.


    Spotted them being tied into place as I came from the Tipperary side. They were being tied to the signs that are at eye height when driving and do block the view for a second or so of cars coming around the roundabout when you are about to enter the roundabout. I said it to one of the guys tying it that could they not put it somewhere that did not block the view and his answer was "We are entitled to put them on roundabout signage", which is probably the right kind of stupid response that one would expect from the man on the poster so apt that his lackies are of the same ilk.


  • #189
    Kess73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    flutered wrote: »
    will all the partys canvass or will it be individuals who will call, has anyone had canvasers, if so what tribe did they belong to, what was their speil.


    O Dea was going around the other day and had 15, yes I counted them :P, little helpers with him. He had no interest in discussing real issues and preferred to try and waffle on about how he would be a voice for Limerick and he would be the type who would stand up and tell a party leader if they were wrong. At that point I told him that he has never been any of those things in his time as minister before and that I would not waste a vote on a yes man who had no interest in telling me what his parties policies would be after the coming election.

    Also chatted with Joe Leddin and it was like comparing night with day compared to O Dea. He had no problem talking about national and local issues (local issues like crime, employment rather than potholes), had no problem debating party policies, and was not afraid to argue a point or to say what he thought would not be possible to do rather than just try to spoof his way through a conversation by trying to resort to parish pump crap like O Dea and his voice of Limerick routine.


  • #190
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭flutered


    Kess73 wrote: »
    O Dea was going around the other day and had 15, yes I counted them :P, little helpers with him
    safty in numbers one must assume.


  • #191
    BobMc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭BobMc


    Last time Dille O'Wea went to my folks house they wanted to debate a few points with him he couldn't get away quick enough, told my dad straight to his face sure I'm a minister I've no time to deal with issues like sure tis a local matter !! - 2 days later he knocked at my door and I had a lash off him told him about what went on down in my folks house again I never knew a MINISTER was able to move that quick


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  • #192
    gaf1983
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭gaf1983


    You may or may not have come across Tom Dunne's doorstep hit list - his list of questions to put to candidates. Anyway, on Monday night I e-mailed all the declared candidates in Limerick East. So far two responses have come in, from Joe Leddin and Michael Noonan.

    I'll be putting up all their responses here.


  • #193
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    gaf1983 wrote: »
    You may or may not have come across Tom Dunne's doorstep hit list - his list of questions to put to candidates. Anyway, on Monday night I e-mailed all the declared candidates in Limerick East. So far two responses have come in, from Joe Leddin and Michael Noonan.

    I'll be putting up all their responses here.

    It's good that Leddin answered directly rather than try and fob you off. I'd like to see him get in but don't think the numbers will stack up for him.


  • #194
    Kess73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    gaf1983 wrote: »
    You may or may not have come across Tom Dunne's doorstep hit list - his list of questions to put to candidates. Anyway, on Monday night I e-mailed all the declared candidates in Limerick East. So far two responses have come in, from Joe Leddin and Michael Noonan.

    I'll be putting up all their responses here.


    No surprise to see those two replying quickly to a member of the public. Seems to be par for the course for Noonan and Leddin to get back in touch with people as quickly as they can, and normally with a fair bit of detail in their replies.


    That's the same list that I took questions from for O'Dea and Leddin when I spoke to them. The same list that O 'Dea was not interested in discussing.


  • #195
    Kess73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    It's good that Leddin answered directly rather than try and fob you off. I'd like to see him get in but don't think the numbers will stack up for him.



    I think he could surprise a few with his numbers to be honest. He did alright in the last local election numberwise if I remember right, and he has impressed a lot of people, including myself, with how quickly and honestly he dealt with and got involved with local issues.

    he is good at following up on anything he starts or is involved with, and is good at keeping people in the loop.

    There are other councillors in his area that could learn a thing or two from him in terms of how to do the job and in how to deal with people.


  • #196
    zuroph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    how is sinn fein picking up so many votes?!


  • #197
    RonMexico
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    zuroph wrote: »
    how is sinn fein picking up so many votes?!

    Probably because Maurice Quinlivan puts a lot of time and effort into local issues that other candidates choose to ignore.

    Not voting SF by the way.


  • #198
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    RonMexico wrote: »
    Probably because Maurice Quinlivan puts a lot of time and effort into local issues that other candidates choose to ignore.
    .

    Such as?

    What's he done that, say, Kiely hasn't done?

    No one would put Kiely forward to the Dail so why the manlove for Quinlivan?


  • #199
    RonMexico
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    Tackling anti-social behaviour in Thomondgate & Stenson Park for one.

    Kiely wasn't selected by his own party. Says a lot about his track record, of which we all can recall some of the outlandish and embarrassing statements he made as mayor.

    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/MEP-calls-on-Mayor-of.5818502.jp

    Quinlivan on the other hand is a competent individual.


  • #200
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    RonMexico wrote: »
    Tackling anti-social behaviour in Thomondgate & Stenson Park for one.

    Kiely wasn't selected by his own party. Says a lot about his track record, of which we all can recall some of the outlandish and enbarrassing statements he made as mayor.

    Quinlivan on the other hand is a competent individual.

    Ah, in fairness to Kiely (who I'd never vote for), he was on the joint policing for a few years and used to make rounds of Thomondgate with the Gardai. It's hardly all down to Quinlivan, so has he managed anything else?

    The guy is great to get his name in the Post, always on hand for a photo op, but has he actually done much more than guys like Shortt and Kiely have done (using those two as they are from Thomondgate)?

    Like I said, I'd never put Kiely forward for the Dail (though I can't argue he's not a popular guy in Thomondgate) so what has Quinlivan done that merits being a TD?


  • #201
    molard
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭molard


    don't know anything about mossy,other then the court case involving willie.does anyone know why he settled outside the court.


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