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**Please Read** Match Tickets

  • 12-04-2009 10:30pm
    #1
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED BUY OR SELL TICKETS ON THE RUGBY FORUM.
    Please do not offer to sell or offer to buy tickets on the rugby forum. These posts will potentially result in a ban.

    Discussions on where/how to buy tickets is grand but Please do not encourage touting. If you try to sell a ticket above face value on this board or offer over face value (neither of which you should be doing in the first place) I will request a site ban. This includes telling people to use touts or by posting links to tout websites.
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  • #2
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Basically a blanket ban came on on ticket sales due to a few things...one being the issue with a certain promoter but the other being that people just can not behave rationally when there are tickets to a big occassion...and will willingly pay over the odds , gazump, rip people off and scam. It becomes unfeasible to mod properly and leaves alot of people with a bad taste and it is not really in line with the idea of a community.


  • #3
    Relevant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Relevant


    Given the fact that we now have a large group of fans who have tickets they don't want and a large group of fans who want them is there any way of temporarily reconsidering the ticket rules?


  • #4
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    I recommend using the Soccer Tickets & travel forum


  • #5
    waraf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭waraf


    RuggieBear wrote: »
    I recommend using the Soccer Tickets & travel forum

    Not wanting to be cheeky here RB but if we have a soccer tickets area can we not have a rugby one? (or even just a thread devoted to it)


  • #6
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    see post 2. The soccer mods are willing to mod it but even then there have been numerous problems with touts


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  • #7
    murpheous81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭murpheous81


    RuggieBear wrote: »
    YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED BUY OR SELL TICKETS ON THE RUGBY FORUM.
    Please do not offer to sell or offer to buy tickets on the rugby forum. These posts will potentially result in a ban.

    Discussions on where/how to buy tickets is grand but Please do not encourage touting. If you try to sell a ticket above face value on this board or offer over face value (neither of which you should be doing in the first place) I will request a site ban. This includes telling people to use touts or by posting links to tout websites.


    What on earth to do you mean when you say that you should not be selling a ticket above its value? It happens in the porperty market, all airlines do it, it is simply supply and demand.

    To say that no one should be doing is a bit twee and smells of communism.

    P.s please get adverts.ie to change to "adverts but we dont like people to make a profit.ie"


  • #8
    waraf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭waraf


    murpheous81 wrote: »
    What on earth to do you mean when you say that you should not be selling a ticket above its value? It happens in the porperty market, all airlines do it, it is simply supply and demand.

    To say that no one should be doing is a bit twee and smells of communism.

    P.s please get adverts.ie to change to "adverts but we dont like people to make a profit.ie"

    If you read the back of your ticket you will notice that it says that the ticket is non transferable.

    I hope you're declaring the profit made to the revenue commissioners ;-)


  • #9
    murpheous81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭murpheous81


    does anyone always do what they are told?

    If I was to sell a ticket, and wish I had one to sell, it would be the OH who it would be declared too. Screw the taxman


  • #10
    murpheous81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭murpheous81


    Excuse my chauvinism - screw the tax person:)


  • #11
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    murpheous81 wrote: »
    What on earth to do you mean when you say that you should not be selling a ticket above its value? It happens in the porperty market, all airlines do it, it is simply supply and demand.

    To say that no one should be doing is a bit twee and smells of communism.

    P.s please get adverts.ie to change to "adverts but we dont like people to make a profit.ie"

    But that is what it is meant to be....it is a place for our community to buy and sell stuff. It is not a place to make a profit. And it certainly isn't a place for people to be ripped off.

    This is a private website. You do not have to use it but if you do choose to use it then you will have to follow our twee rules.


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  • #12
    Sabre0001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    There are places external to boards (shock!). Toutless.ie, Buy & Sell, wouldn't encourage ebay but it's an option...

    🤪



  • #13
    ozt9vdujny3srf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭ozt9vdujny3srf


    murpheous81 wrote: »
    What on earth to do you mean when you say that you should not be selling a ticket above its value? It happens in the porperty market, all airlines do it, it is simply supply and demand.

    To say that no one should be doing is a bit twee and smells of communism.

    P.s please get adverts.ie to change to "adverts but we dont like people to make a profit.ie"

    I agree with you, in that in every market, a fair value is what people are willing to pay for it. However, the match tickets market is a different story, for a number of reasons:

    1. The pricing structure of tickets is not set purely with supply and demand in mind. The price range is set with generating as much money for the IRFU as possible while not making matches prohibitively expensive for genuine fans who cannot affort high cost tickets. If the IRFU were to take your argument into account when deciding their prices, you can be damn sure the tickets would be a lot more expensive

    2. The profit made from gate receipts of a rugby match go straight back into the sport. The profit made by touts goes straight into their greedy pockets.

    3. People who buy tickets in order to make a profit out of them are vastly decreasing the chance for genuine fans, who want to see the match of getting a ticket.

    4. Touts are scumbags!


  • #14
    murpheous81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭murpheous81


    Well if this is a community then ye should only allow barter style transactions. Last I heard people buy and sell stuff to gain an advantage i.e gaining a product or make a small fair profit.

    And admit it if ye had a ticket to sell then you would like to gain some sort of advantage, even if it was a small one.

    A ticket a friend bought cost 40GBP, if you were to barter it, I bet everyone would try to get an item that slightly exceeded that amount.

    Face value is just a starting point? Lots, lots and lots are products are bought exceeding face value some please don't give me that crap that "we are a private community" and that I should go elsewhere. If ye were private then why don't ye charge members. THIS I BELIEVE IS A PUBLIC FORUM!


  • #15
    P_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    I've started a HEC Final ticket exchange thread on the Soccer Tickets and Travel Forum (just waiting for it to be approved).


  • #16
    ozt9vdujny3srf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭ozt9vdujny3srf


    It's a privately owned forum. It is run under the terms of the people who own it. It turns out a lot of people are delighted to use the forums on those terms.

    You still haven't really put forward a good argument for selling tickets at a profit to me.


  • #17
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    if i had a ticket for the final and wasnt going, id sell it for face value.
    if i bought a ticket for the final knowing that i wasnt going to but to just sell it........well i wouldnt do that


  • #18
    waraf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭waraf


    pithater1 wrote: »
    I've started a HEC Final ticket exchange thread on the Soccer Tickets and Travel Forum (just waiting for it to be approved).

    Yeah me too - hours ago. Are the mods not allowing it or something?

    H cup final ticket & accommodation thread is now here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=60097279


  • #19
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    waraf wrote: »
    Yeah me too - hours ago. Are the mods not allowing it or something?

    just allow them time to ok it.


  • #20
    murpheous81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭murpheous81


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    if i had a ticket for the final and wasnt going, id sell it for face value.
    if i bought a ticket for the final knowing that i wasnt going to but to just sell it........well i wouldnt do that


    glad to hear Cat from Hue that you would not buy a ticket to speculate, hope nothing is being implied in that statement.

    All I am saying that threre should be a facility on this site to buy/sell tickets at the going rate on this site and that if I was offered more than the asking price for the ticket or if I was to sell a price that was the going rate and over the face value of the ticket then I believe there is nothing wrong with that.

    This is just my opinion, a lot of people may not like but thats the down side of democracy - Ever langer gets to have an opinion.


  • #21
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    murpheous81 wrote: »
    glad to hear Cat from Hue that you would not buy a ticket to speculate, hope nothing is being implied in that statement.

    All I am saying that threre should be a facility on this site to buy/sell tickets at the going rate on this site and that if I was offered more than the asking price for the ticket or if I was to sell a price that was the going rate and over the face value of the ticket then I believe there is nothing wrong with that.

    This is just my opinion, a lot of people may not like but thats the down side of democracy - Ever langer gets to have an opinion.

    But boards.ie believes it is wrong...and that is all that matters. There is no democracy here.


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  • #22
    andhugheser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ✭andhugheser


    On the leicester messageboard website the mods are removing any posts that list a ticket above face value.. surely that wouldnt be too hard to do? let everyone else sell honestly and just remove the dodgy touts!


  • #23
    murpheous81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭murpheous81


    RuggieBear wrote: »
    But boards.ie believes it is wrong...and that is all that matters. There is no democracy here.


    Ha ha ha.

    We will just have to agree to disagree but once we know I am right then thats fine by me:D


  • #24
    murpheous81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭murpheous81


    Kailey Sour Armadillo the Uncivil wrote: »
    It's a privately owned forum. It is run under the terms of the people who own it. It turns out a lot of people are delighted to use the forums on those terms.

    You still haven't really put forward a good argument for selling tickets at a profit to me.

    Was not putting forward an argument. It happens everyday, with everything you buy i.e. who pays the face value for a cup of tea, coffee & clothing and I don't see how tickets are different.

    Ryanair and Aer Lingus are doing it with their prices for the weekend of the final. "Thats just the way it is"

    Thats just how I role.


  • #25
    andhugheser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ✭andhugheser


    thats how u ROLL??


  • #26
    murpheous81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭murpheous81


    andhugheser wrote: »
    thats how u ROLL??

    Role is in act and role as in beliefs and the role I play in life.

    Thats how I role andhugheser.


  • #27
    andhugheser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ✭andhugheser


    fair enough


  • #28
    Trojan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,413 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    I will take great pleasure in sitebanning anyone attempting to tout tickets for this game.

    🎙️ The Recognized Authority Podcast



  • #29
    dingbat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭dingbat


    murpheous81 wrote: »
    Was not putting forward an argument. It happens everyday, with everything you buy i.e. who pays the face value for a cup of tea, coffee & clothing and I don't see how tickets are different.

    Ryanair and Aer Lingus are doing it with their prices for the weekend of the final. "Thats just the way it is"

    Thats just how I role.
    So you're a ticket tout. Fair enough. At least be honest with yourself about it.


  • #30
    andhugheser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ✭andhugheser


    Role is in act and role as in beliefs and the role I play in life.

    Thats how I role andhugheser.

    ROLE
    –noun
    1. a part or character played by an actor or actress.
    2. proper or customary function: the teacher's role in society.
    3. Sociology. the rights, obligations, and expected behavior patterns associated with a particular social status.

    I still think u should have said thats how i ROLL!!!


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  • #31
    murpheous81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭murpheous81


    Trojan wrote: »
    I will take great pleasure in sitebanning anyone attempting to tout tickets for this game.

    Fair enough, I suppose people have to get their kicks somewhere. But I think anyone is a fool not to sell a ticket at the market rate.


  • #32
    murpheous81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭murpheous81


    dingbat wrote: »
    So you're a ticket tout. Fair enough. At least be honest with yourself about it.

    Dear Ding Dong, sorry Ding Bat,

    I am being totally honest,yes I believe in the capitalistic system that exists, show me another that works. You are the one putting a label on me, hence defining me by some term you think is derogatory. There is nothing wrong I believe with charging what you can get, note I did not say as much as you can get, for a ticket.

    So Ding Bat, IF you owned a business you are telling me that you would not add to the wholesale price of the product you were selling,hence inflating the price to the same price that your competitors are selling at or Touting as you like to put it.

    If it was the other way around i.e. Leinster were the successful team etc etc and Munster won at the weekend, then you can be as sure as a rainy irish summer that the situation for tickets would be reversed.


  • #33
    P_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    murpheous81 wrote: »
    Fair enough, I suppose people have to get their kicks somewhere. But I think anyone is a fool not to sell a ticket at the market rate.

    Well if one wished to sell a ticket at what you call the market rate, I'd suggest you find a site outside this one to do so.

    You may have realised by now that selling tickets for any event above their face value is seriously frowned on on this site.


  • #34
    murpheous81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭murpheous81


    pithater1 wrote: »
    Well if one wished to sell a ticket at what you call the market rate, I'd suggest you find a site outside this one to do so.

    You may have realised by now that selling tickets for any event above their face value is seriously frowned on on this site.

    Dear pithater1

    WTF. HAVE YOU NOT READ ANY OF MY PREVIOUS POSTS. I AM NOT SELLING OR AIMING TO SELL A TICKET ON THIS FORUM. God read the whole thread.

    GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE while you are at it.


  • #35
    murpheous81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭murpheous81


    andhugheser wrote: »
    ROLE
    –noun
    1. a part or character played by an actor or actress.
    2. proper or customary function: the teacher's role in society.
    3. Sociology. the rights, obligations, and expected behavior patterns associated with a particular social status.

    I still think u should have said thats how i ROLL!!!



    thats how i roll!

    Hope my spelling correction can put your mind at ease and you can move on


  • #36
    Stev_o
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    Just a warning to any fans trying to get tickets from English links there is a warning on the Tigers forum about a con artist who is going around trying to catch people out and they said he's done it to Munster fans over the years.
    I've just signed up to the site in order to warn you about the above scumbag. He's a very well known ticket scammer. If you Google his mobile number which is 07729901208, you will see what I mean.

    He's ripped people off with regard to all sorts of events, footy games, concert tickets etc. I know that a few Munster fans were caught by him last year.

    This fella has been done by Greater Manchester Police, and had a further warning earlier this year, but he's a compulsive con artist, and he won't stop.

    He'll also be very well aware that Leinster fans will be desperately trying to get hold of tickets by any means.

    Sometimes, if you post on a forum looking for tickets, and you publish your phone number, he'll just cold call you, as he did me last year. He's a very polite and amiable sounding Manc, but don't let this fool you. He'll take your money first, and you'll see no tickets.

    He may also approach you via private message if he's registered on the site, or even email. He's got a several differing names and email accounts, but normally uses the same mobile number for all his dealings.

    There's also the possibility that he'll post offering tickets for sale.

    I don't want you to feel alarmist about all of this, I just don't want see anyone else get conned by this swine.

    If any members on this forum read this, and are members of any fringe Leicster forums, I'd seriously appreciate it if you could post this information on them.

    He also goes by the email address : blue_wkd62@hotmail.co.uk or tommy.smith80@live.co.uk and has gone by the name Tommy Smith. Has scammed Celtic, Villa, Man U etc etc. Be careful out there - if in doubt - do not buy!


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  • #37
    dreamer_ire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭dreamer_ire


    Burren Chernobyl Project (a registered Irish charity) are raffling 2 tickets for the HC Final. Raffle tickets are €5 each and the draw takes place on Tuesday May 12th. The link to their site is http://www.mycharity.ie/event/heineken/ in case anyone is interested.


  • #38
    colman1212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭colman1212


    Hi Guys,

    Anyone know when these tickets come out and where you can buy them?

    I know they come out a nice bit in advance but no idea when or where...


  • #39
    zAbbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    colman1212 wrote: »
    Hi Guys,

    Anyone know when these tickets come out and where you can buy them?

    I know they come out a nice bit in advance but no idea when or where...

    Come off it - no idea?, just google rugby world cup and you get this - http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/ which has links to ticketing
    Ticketing

    Rugby New Zealand 2011 Ltd (RNZ 2011) is in the process of developing the ticketing strategy for RWC 2011. It anticipates releasing details of the ticketing programme towards the end of 2009.

    Tickets will go on sale globally in early 2010.

    Ticket pricing will reflect the stature of the tournament as the biggest sporting event in the world in 2011. It is expected that prices will be similar to those from RWC 2007.


  • #40
    connundrum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    IRFU supporters club would have to get the heads up for the ticket release wouldn't they?

    There's a few of us seriously considering the trip over... along with 30-40,000 others no doubt :pac:


  • #41
    thesweeney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭thesweeney


    Can you sell tickets at face value on here? Just wondering cos I know someone that cant make it to game and is looking to get rid of them.


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  • #42
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    use here

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=896


  • #43
    thesweeney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭thesweeney


    Thanks


  • #44
    johnnyc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭johnnyc


    Your planning well in advance :) . should have a rugby world cup boards piss up for people heading down there


  • #45
    zAbbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    johnnyc wrote: »
    Your planning well in advance :) . should have a rugby world cup boards piss up for people heading down there

    Yeah and maybe Jabba can buy those pints he owes :)


  • #46
    therecklessone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Message from the mods of the soccer tickets forum:

    Forum charter

    Sticky thread in block capitals saying NO OFF THREAD DEALING! NO PMs or MOBILES

    Read the above threads before posting on the forum, or you risk a permanent ban

    I hope the rugby mods appreciate the circumstances, as I've had to ban quite a few people already who didn't read the rules.


  • #47
    gosplan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    Right, I just got a Leinster season ticket, looking forward to the start of everything.

    Am trying to find out what the story is when it comes to internationals? I go in some kind of a lottery, no?


  • #48
    crisco10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭crisco10


    gosplan wrote: »
    Right, I just got a Leinster season ticket, looking forward to the start of everything.

    Am trying to find out what the story is when it comes to internationals? I go in some kind of a lottery, no?

    Yeah there is a lottery for all the 6n and AI's at the same time. Most people get tickets to one game. Although, in my experience, they always are for the least "fashionable" game. Say Italy this year...


  • #49
    SoundWave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭SoundWave


    gosplan wrote: »
    Right, I just got a Leinster season ticket, looking forward to the start of everything.

    Am trying to find out what the story is when it comes to internationals? I go in some kind of a lottery, no?

    tickets for the Autumn Internationals available here if anyone is interested.... http://www.irishrugby.ie/21_12789.php


  • #50
    dubal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭dubal


    Tickets on ticketmaster for the Heineken Cup - Leinster V Scarlets home game on Dec 19 if anyone is interested

    Dubal


  • #51
    mwaters
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26 ✭mwaters


    Hi,

    WHat age do Junior price tickets go up to on Ticketmaster? Will my 6 yr old nephew be able to avail of them?

    Thanks,

    mwaters


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