The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

Has to finish on the day.

What’s the alternative unless they change the system? There’s a huge variance between the likes of Knockbride & Arva playing Div 1 football and then the Mighty MacFinns who haven’t won a game in over a decade.

I’m no fan of the county board but it’d be great if sometimes people tried to offer a solution rather than just picking out the problem.

The senior championship hasn’t been good this year but that’s because I think the game went too far with attempts at elitism - a lot of club teams want their players to act like intercounty lads. Players will only put up with that for so long.

Score difference isn’t fair because any team who plays Maghera has a huge advantage as they run up a big score - it had been shown over the years.

I wouldn’t agree re linking League to Championship. Knockbride are junior because they haven’t been able to get out of it for successive years - no more than Ballyhaise at intermediate.

In fairness to them, I think the best solution is what WAC suggested. 4 groups of ten.

Although that still doesn’t get over the fact that some clubs need to amalgamate - particularly those in West Cavan and those amalgamating at underage. Dernacrieve for example is four clubs at some ages (Shannon Gaels, Corlough, Kildallan, Swad) yet they are still only in lower Divisions.

Saying “oh it’s done in other counties” and “oh, it was done over 20 years ago” isn’t really a positive reason for changing the current system. League is League and Championship is Championship. If clubs are too good for their grade, they should be able to win it.

Maghera, Kill, Corlough - all clubs that amalgamate at juvenile. Hence back to a point I raised on here many moons ago that we’ve too many clubs.

So you’re actually agreeing with me re the variance in clubs and score difference at junior but then why say to go with the norm of score difference above? You’d make a good politician, covering all bases!

What’s confusing you? Try to use a little more than one sentence like a good lad.

Mod Edit

Warning issued.

Tossing coins is only used where two teams agree to it like, say, Knockbride and Arva - first or second place doesn’t really make any difference.

It’s further down the table where there are play offs that it is making a difference.

I hadn’t read the forum in a few days. As I said previously, there is only myself and one other poster who appear to be actually attending club games or paying any heed to them going on the lack of posts. Anything to add about actual games you’ve watched in the club championship yourself?

Cuchulainns playing Division 1 League football but can’t get out of the group in intermediate.

League is league, championship is championship.

Cuchulainns havent played Division 1 in years.

Yes

Not kicked a ball in it yet

Complete overhaul needed if we are to get anywhere with Cavan at Senior level.

I am firmly of the belief that the Kerry Style System is the way to go. What I would like to see is

Play your leagues as normal at the end of the league campaign

1) Those in Division one qualify for senior championship.

2) Division two and below can amalgamate and enter the senior championship.

3) Start the Senior Championship's in a group format. top two go through bottom two enter a shield competition.

4) Winners of the leagues go onto the Ulster Club championships unless a division one team wins the championship.

5) Could have a secondary championship amalgamated teams if numbers are there.

I don’t think Shercock, Ballymachugh or Killinkere can win it.

Denn or Cootehill are playing this weekend and I think the winner will be one of those two or Ballyhaise.

You are wrong Myles both Butlersbridge and Cuchulainns didn't make the Intermediate quarter finals due to score difference and it has been used for many years.

It's been like that every since this format came in years ago.

Just wondering if there were divisions between Mickey and some of the Cavan players? I'm wondering if that is the case because Galligan has said that fast attacking play will be his style and that certainly wasn't Mickey's way as in the last few years the style was slow and lateral with very little quick ball going in to the forwards.

Well that would be indicative of at least some of the team not being in favour of a style of play. Mickey wasn't long getting back into football again so he didn't leave his position with Cavan to take a break from it. Interesting times ahead.

I am glad some didnt get their way and see Cavan throw money at Mickey Harte. Any man capable of a stroke like that is not the type of outside manager I would be looking for.

Whereas we get men back behind the ball and attack at a snail’s pace. Cavan have to work on one key item to improve - the speed of their transition. It has been an issue for years now though.

What confused me was other counties in Ulster, well going by what supporters from other places said to me, seemed to think our strong point was our size and conditioning.

That did help us in Div 3 against teams like Offaly or Westmeath but we certainly looked second rate against Down or Armagh.