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Irish rebel music

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Beir Bua


    ItsAWindUp wrote: »
    Oh yeah, "Oooh ah up the RA", that really is something to be proud of all right!

    Pray tell, how many of the songs posted up here have that phrase in them?

    Celtic symphony is the only one I think?


    BB


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Beir Bua


    heres the same man signing a rebel song


    'The Patriot Game' is about Fergal O'Hanlon. He and his comrade in arms Seán South were killed 55 years ago this New years day coming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭couldntthink


    What about our national anthem? That's a rebel song.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭scruff321


    Cole Train im with you all the way Irish Radio is nearly all Brit/ US teeny bopper pop rubbish anyway. Sure most Irish people dont like or respect this type of music due to their stuck up suburban mentality that Irish Rebel music is for "scumbags" or as one eejit on this thread said "he'd prefere to listen to PROPER music", says it all really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    the tones might be known for their rebel tunes but for me their best song has nothing to do with that subject



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    scruff321 wrote: »
    Cole Train im with you all the way Irish Radio is nearly all Brit/ US teeny bopper pop rubbish anyway. Sure most Irish people dont like or respect this type of music due to their stuck up suburban mentality that Irish Rebel music is for "scumbags" or as one eejit on this thread said "he'd prefere to listen to PROPER music", says it all really.

    When you hear drunken idiots chanting "IRA" in the middle of "The Fields of Athenry" then the "scumbag" label seems to fit......I used to play it when Munster were playing but once the idiots started hijacking and ruining it for everyone and making it embarrassing then there was no point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Johnny Foreigner


    here is a song for keith
    heres the same man signing a rebel song

    I always think its funny when the Orange men call it a sash, when they are actually wearing a collarette.
    A sash is worn diagonally over one shoulder.
    A collarette is worn over both shoulders around the collar.
    This ones for KeithAFC:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHciiinP8sM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Johnny Foreigner




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Beir Bua


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    When you hear drunken idiots chanting "IRA" in the middle of "The Fields of Athenry" then the "scumbag" label seems to fit......I used to play it when Munster were playing but once the idiots started hijacking and ruining it for everyone and making it embarrassing then there was no point.

    Well, what does a song about the famine, a man rebelling against the British crown and it's cruelty and his subsequent exile from his native land for this so called "crime", have to do with rugby?

    Did you even think before you accused someone of hijacking the song? Add ins of "IRA" and "Sinn Féin", though I don't like them myself, are much more in tune with the song, as they are the two groups who forced the British out of 26 of Ireland's 32 counties, then sports like Rugby are.


    BB


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Some people seem to group all Irish folk music under the banner of rebel songs. Not sure why.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    It's just embarrassingly bad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Like all types of music, Some of it is crap and some of it is brilliant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Irish Folk/Trad music = Great!

    Rebel music = sooo wrong on many levels.

    A Hotel near us had the Wolf Tones playing there last year, and that, along with other issues (dirty toilets) was the last straw for us, so we just wouldn't go there again on principle, the gang the Tones attracted had to be seen to be believed, real heavy duty republicans, Sands tattoos, 70s style moustaches, nicotain stained fingers, half sloshed Brit hating neanderthals the lot of them! Really awful crowd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Beir Bua wrote: »
    Noting like a good old generalization is there? Plenty of "scummers" wear Man Utd or Liverpool jerseys you know. There are no more "Celtic jersey wearing scummers" than there are "Man Utd jersey wearing scummers" or liverpool Jersey wearing scummers." Now that the "glory days" of Uefa Cup finals and the like are gone for the time being the band-wagoners have left. I don't even support Celtic but to label someone a "scummer" because they wear a jersey is ridiculous.

    I've been to quite a few Irish music nights with live bands, people wear all sorts of clothes. Sometimes these "rebel nights" are held in with conjunction with Celtic games.

    Your post has the hallmark of someone who is talking out their hole about something they know nothing about.




    BB

    It's a bullshi* argument that gets done to death on here.

    You know it's tedious when you have to explain what kind of clothes people wear.
    ItsAWindUp wrote: »
    I f ucking hate rebel music, usually leave a pub if it comes on.

    Oh my gaaawd George, there's someone listening to a Irish song, he must one of those common person - it's time to leave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    scruff321 wrote: »
    Cole Train im with you all the way Irish Radio is nearly all Brit/ US teeny bopper pop rubbish anyway. Sure most Irish people dont like or respect this type of music due to their stuck up suburban mentality that Irish Rebel music is for "scumbags" or as one eejit on this thread said "he'd prefere to listen to PROPER music", says it all really.

    since fucking when were we obliged to 'respect' niche subgenres of music?

    Jesus fucking wept..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Irish Folk/Trad music = Great!

    Rebel music = sooo wrong on many levels.

    A Hotel near us had the Wolf Tones playing there last year, and that, along with other issues (dirty toilets) was the last straw for us, so we just wouldn't go there again on principle, the gang the Tones attracted had to be seen to be believed, real heavy duty republicans, Sands tattoos, 70s style moustaches, nicotain stained fingers, half sloshed Brit hating neanderthals the lot of them! Really awful crowd.

    Dear o dear o dear......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Irish Folk/Trad music = Great!

    Rebel music = sooo wrong on many levels.

    A Hotel near us had the Wolf Tones playing there last year, and that, along with other issues (dirty toilets) was the last straw for us, so we just wouldn't go there again on principle, the gang the Tones attracted had to be seen to be believed, real heavy duty republicans, Sands tattoos, 70s style moustaches, nicotain stained fingers, half sloshed Brit hating neanderthals the lot of them! Really awful crowd.

    Are you seriously labeling an entire genre of music "wrong on so many levels" because someone didn't clean a toilet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    ItsAWindUp wrote: »
    Oh yeah, "Oooh ah up the RA", that really is something to be proud of all right!


    The tradition of rebel music in Ireland dates back many centuries,(long before the RA was here) dealing with historical events such as uprisings, describing the hardships of living under oppressive rule, but also strong sentiments of solidarity, loyalty, determination, as well as praise of valiant heroes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    Are you seriously labeling an entire genre of music "wrong on so many levels" because someone didn't clean a toilet.

    Not the 1st time the toilest have not been cleaned, and as far as I'm concerned Rebel music should be banned in Hotels, Pubs & Clubs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    Are you seriously labeling an entire genre of music "wrong on so many levels" because someone didn't clean a toilet.

    Allow me to explain.....
    lord sutch wrote:
    I am an Irish Unionist.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=71702426&postcount=204
    lord sutch wrote:
    Dunno about the North, but I would have fought against the rebels here in Dublin, that's for sure
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=71997215&postcount=92


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Not the 1st time the toilest have not been cleaned, and as far as I'm concerned Rebel music should be banned in Hotels, Pubs & Clubs.

    Good to see that spirit of tolerance is still going strong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    here is a song for keith
    heres the same man signing a rebel song
    This is a cracking wee tune.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Not the 1st time the toilest have not been cleaned, and as far as I'm concerned Rebel music should be banned in Hotels, Pubs & Clubs.

    You'd ban the tricolour if you got your way.
    Nodin wrote: »

    That explains it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,382 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    Some rebel songs are excellent, but a load of the stuff you come across is pure crap. Wolfe Tones are absolutely dire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,286 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Irish Folk/Trad music = Great!

    Rebel music = sooo wrong on many levels.

    You are welcome to explain on what level rebel music is so wrong.

    Here is one of my favourite non Irish ones



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Nodin wrote: »
    Good to see that spirit of tolerance is still going strong.

    Well in fairness Nodin (Irish) Rebel music is deliberately provocative & insulting, and I hate it !!!

    By the way, how in Gods name how do you reference my old posts so quickly? Sometimes you can even pick out a post of
    mine from several years ago & repost it within minutes, I must be listed in your little (enemy of Republicans) database :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/us/features/topten/


    The Wolfe Tones' version of A Nation Once Again was voted the number one song in the world by BBC World Service listeners in 2002 :eek::rolleyes::):p

    How did that happen ? seriously


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Beir Bua


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Well in fairness Nodin (Irish) Rebel music is deliberately provocative & insulting, and I hate it !!!

    By the way, how in Gods name how do you reference my old posts so quickly? Sometimes you can even pick out a post of
    mine from several years ago & repost it within minutes, I must be listed in your little (enemy of Republicans) database :cool:
    Rebel music is not deliberately provocative and insulting. Standing outsides someones house and singing "The Billy boys" like your pals have often done is deliberately provocative and insulting.

    BB


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Well in fairness Nodin Rebel music is deliberately provocative & insulting, and I hate it !!!

    .............

    Well it isn't generally "deliberately provocative & insulting", but I suppose it would appear that way to people such as southern unionists. This puts them in the same boat as Southern Confederates listening to the American national anthem, Nazis listening to jazz.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Beir Bua wrote: »
    Rebel music is not deliberately provocative and insulting.

    Oh yes it is . . . .
    Beir Bua wrote: »
    Standing outsides someones house and singing "The Billy boys" like your pals have often done is deliberately provocative and insulting.

    Well I agree with you about that, although the 'your pals' bit is incorrect, those types are no pals of mine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,286 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    realies wrote: »

    How did that happen ? seriously

    An online campaign ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    realies wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/us/features/topten/


    The Wolfe Tones' version of A Nation Once Again was voted the number one song in the world by BBC World Service listeners in 2002 :eek::rolleyes::):p

    How did that happen ? seriously

    "Everyone, Republican or otherwise, has their own particular part to play. No part is too great or too small; no one is too old or too young to do something."


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    Nodin wrote: »
    "Everyone, Republican or otherwise, has their own particular part to play. No part is too great or too small; no one is too old or too young to do something."

    Do something for what, lol?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Nodin wrote: »
    Well it isn't generally "deliberately provocative & insulting", but I suppose it would appear that way to people such as southern unionists. This puts them in the same boat as Southern Confederates listening to the American national anthem, Nazis listening to jazz.

    Well I might also suggest Irish Republicans also start listening to Jazz and give up that old Rebel guff once & for all.

    "Up the Ra" ideed, awful hate inducing stuff . . . . . .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    Do something for what, lol?
    To get the propaganda out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Well I might also suggest Irirh Republicans start listening to Jazz too & give up that old Rebel guff once & for all. Up the Ra ideed . . . . . .

    O we're already a diverse lot. You shouldn't stereotype.

    You any plans to give up pining for monarchy and a foriegn power?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    To get the propaganda out.


    Says keith who would never dream of doing that :rolleyes:

    Who,s yer man in your signature this time Keith, Old type bus conductor ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Nodin wrote: »
    You any plans to give up pining for monarchy and a foriegn power?

    No pining matey, Her Maj was here earlier this year! and as for 'foreign' I think you know what I would say about that.

    PS: You still havent said how you can delve into my posting history at such speed (almost as if you have me on file)?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    realies wrote: »
    Says keith who would never dream of doing that :rolleyes:

    Who,s yer man in your signature this time Keith, Old type bus conductor ?
    Well that is what it was with the hunger strikers. Probably why Sinn Fein let the last remaining on hunger strike die.

    And that is a picture of an Ulster patriot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    Stop the arguing.

    We are all Irish here :D and like it or not this music is part of our history as is Unionist music if to a lesser degree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,119 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Irish Folk/Trad music = Great!

    Rebel music = sooo wrong on many levels.

    A Hotel near us had the Wolf Tones playing there last year, and that, along with other issues (dirty toilets) was the last straw for us, so we just wouldn't go there again on principle, the gang the Tones attracted had to be seen to be believed, real heavy duty republicans, Sands tattoos, 70s style moustaches, nicotain stained fingers, half sloshed Brit hating neanderthals the lot of them! Really awful crowd.

    Most people don't go to gigs to study the audience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    LordSutch wrote: »
    No pining matey, Her Maj was here earlier this year!)?

    Everyone is entitled to visit. We live in a free country afterall.
    LordSutch wrote: »
    PS: You still havent said how you can delve into my posting history at such speed (amost as if you have me on file)?

    The mysterious Boards.ie search function. Shhhh. Don't tell anyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Most people don't go to gigs to study the audience.

    Well we couldnt avoid studying them on the way in, we were going for a meal and they were heading in to sing "Up the IRA" songs with the Wolf Tones, awful crowd the lot of them, crap music too . . .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    LordSutch wrote: »
    We couldnt avoid them on the way in, we were going for a meal and they were heading in to sing "Up the IRA" songs with the Wolf Tones, awful crowd the lot of them, crap music too . . .

    One crowd going to a gig by one band, the most general of generalizations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,119 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Well we couldnt avoid studying them on the way in, we were going for a meal and they were heading in to sing "Up the IRA" songs with the Wolf Tones, awful crowd the lot of them, crap music too . . .

    Who did you expect to see in the audience, Justin Bieber fans?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Who did you expect to see in the audience, Justin Bieber fans?

    No of course not, all I'm saying is that by the look of them (the rebel music crowd) they were really into their IRA/Hunger strike, glorification stuff, which is reall not my cuppa.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Treason


    Rebel songs are still being made. The struggle goes on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭Dubchild


    If you get some good rebel cds then you can listen happily away. The radio is crap for good music, it's always the same stuff when i listen. I love my music, also all kinds and rebel tunes from brilliant artists like the Wolfe Tones :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    LordSutch wrote: »
    No of course not, all I'm saying is that by the look of them (the rebel music crowd) they were really into their IRA/Hunger strike, glorification stuff, which is reall not my cuppa.

    Em, find me 5 well known rebel songs that discuss the IRA of the 1960-1990's?

    There are not many, most "rebel" songs are from pre 1960.


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