Breakfast with Ray (Foley) and Jay [Cork's Red FM, 6am-9am]

DopeTech · 23-01-2016 9:44am

stannis wrote: »

Had no idea that Nordy Eoghan has a show on Today FM - how long has he been doing that?

Couple of years now, it's friday nights, 10 or 11pm-2am. Used be eoghan and Shauna, has Ann took her place?

ofcork · 23-01-2016 8:10pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Muireann and Ray on the seven o clock show on tv3. Love it lads.

Louise Duffy not too shabby either:)

elmoslats · 24-01-2016 12:46am

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Oh I know it probably won't happen, but man it'd be so cool to have them together again, and especially doing a show about 90's music...

And to be fair, that show doesn't start until 10pm, doesn't he finish on TV3 at 8 or 9? :P

I'm pretty sure Friday night 90s is pre recorded.

Euphoria Intensifies · 24-01-2016 7:19pm

elmoslats wrote:

I'm pretty sure Friday night 90s is pre recorded.

It is yeah I think.

JP to iRadio? Stranger things have happened.

wnolan1992 · 24-01-2016 7:49pm

elmoslats wrote: »

I'm pretty sure Friday night 90s is pre recorded.

Yeah, definitely is. Which is a shame IMO, I think the two lads work well together, but the prerecorded nature of it makes it sound very stilted at times.

I remember on one of the NTN podcasts Ray was talking about Shauna asking him for advice on how to use the Today FM studio.

IUA14 · 30-01-2016 2:02am

Just stumbled across this, Raymond is blogging again on http://rayfoley.ie/blog/

Chip Whitley · 30-01-2016 9:27am

IUA14 wrote: »

Just stumbled across this, Raymond is blogging again on http://rayfoley.ie/blog/

It's funny that he's blogging about the food aspect of the show as I have remarked to my missus that every time I flick on he is eating on the show, ha!

Glad to see he's blogging, it must mean he misses being creative. Hopefully a return to the NTN Podcast won't be too far away.

Euphoria Intensifies · 31-01-2016 2:54am

I've always liked Ray's writing style, ever since the rayfoley.net blogspot days. Will have to keep an eye on it. I hope NTN makes a return too.

One of my friends is doing a masters in journalism at the minute too. I'll have to ask her if Ray is in her class

elmoslats · 01-02-2016 4:24pm

Just got excited when I saw a new podcast in my feed.
Unfortunately it's a big breakfast clip.
I'm pretty sure the feed I'm subscribed to was the same feed he had when in todayfm. Guess its not his anymore.

IUA14 · 01-02-2016 4:41pm

elmoslats wrote: »

Just got excited when I saw a new podcast in my feed.
Unfortunately it's a big breakfast clip.
I'm pretty sure the feed I'm subscribed to was the same feed he had when in todayfm. Guess its not his anymore.

No they changed podcast feeds when the moved stations. The one they went on to was used by 98FM breakfast shows before.

IUA14 · 02-02-2016 8:19pm

Really hope the lads finished on an upswing in the JNLR's tomorrow, doubt they care that much but still.

IUA14 · 03-02-2016 7:05pm

Figures nationally... http://www.thejournal.ie/jnlr-figures-irish-radio-2582346-Feb2016/

Dermot and Dave down to 121,000, 30,000+ below where Foley was before leaving. Louise Duffy down 4,000 to 94,000...don't know how long TodayFM will stick with her...would love Foley and JP in that 2.30 to 4.30 slot, perfect for them!

2FM down across the board too with Breakfast Republic down 8,000 book-on-book!!! Yikes!

IUA14 · 03-02-2016 7:05pm

Figures nationally... http://www.thejournal.ie/jnlr-figures-irish-radio-2582346-Feb2016/

Dermot and Dave down to 121,000, 30,000+ below where Foley was before leaving. Louise Duffy down 4,000 to 94,000...don't know how long TodayFM will stick with her...would love Foley and JP in that 2.30 to 4.30 slot, perfect for them!

2FM down across the board too with Breakfast Republic down 15,000 book-on-book!!! Yikes!

Loughc · 03-02-2016 8:35pm

How did foley end up doing?

chilloutrelax · 03-02-2016 9:55pm

He finished with 36k listeners, down 1,000 book on book and down 7,000 year on year.

Spin are at 49k and 104 on 82k….

Whether people think he is good or bad, clearly there was no connection at all with the Dublin market with figures like that.

my friend · 03-02-2016 10:47pm

Loughc wrote: »

How did foley end up doing?

Bad, the figures show why Foley was cut

chilloutrelax · 03-02-2016 10:59pm

my friend wrote: »

Bad, the figures show why Foley was cut

Very true.. The circumtances of him leaving was obvious... Choice?? I doubt it

IUA14 · 03-02-2016 11:02pm

chilloutrelax wrote: »

He finished with 36k listeners, down 1,000 book on book and down 7,000 year on year.

Spin are at 49k and 104 on 82k….

Whether people think he is good or bad, clearly there was no connection at all with the Dublin market with figures like that.

Agree, think 98FM not letting them be themselves made the experiment of Foley on breakfast pointless. 98FM in a world of trouble, Quilty down 8,000 year on year. That being said Strawberry Alarm Clock down 4,000 year on year and The Jam down 9,000 too...but they can actually afford to lose a few listeners unlike 98!

chilloutrelax · 03-02-2016 11:17pm

IUA14 wrote: »

Agree, think 98FM not letting them be themselves made the experiment of Foley on breakfast pointless. 98FM in a world of trouble, Quilty down 8,000 year on year. That being said Strawberry Alarm Clock down 4,000 year on year and The Jam down 9,000 too...but they can actually afford to lose a few listeners unlike 98!

98 are in a spot of bother (Barry Dunne remains the exception as usual, ironically the least promoted show on the station by miles). Dara quilty is only a third of spins drive show... Dublin talks has had no impact at 34k - they had 10k more at night on 104. I don't blame the presenters, management haven't a clue!

corcaigh_abu · 04-02-2016 11:08am

Station Programme Time 15Q4 14Q4 +/- Ch %
98FM Ray Foley 07.00-10.00 36 43 -7 -16%
98FM Dublin Talks 10.00-12.00 34 33 1 3%
98FM Barry Dunne 12.00-16.00 48 43 5 12%
98FM Big Ride Home 16.00-19.00 29 37 -8 -22%
98FM Brian Maher 19.00-21.00 10 9 1 11%

Ya, writing on the wall really for Foley. The only thing is I can imagine the meetings the day after JNLRs over the last year (they were making slow but steady gains before then) and management saying this isn't good enough, need to raise your game. Foley - no problem boss, just let us cut all the sh1t you're making us do and allow us make the type of radio for which we have a great track record. Mgmt - nah, just do more competitions, songs are boring prerecorded interviews with nobodies.
Tbh I'd say the lads are somewhat relieved it's over. Fairly disappointed Adelle couldn't/wouldn't pull strings to loosen up the format.
Also not looking great for Quilty either....

chilloutrelax · 04-02-2016 11:12am

corcaigh_abu wrote: »

Station Programme Time 15Q4 14Q4 +/- Ch %
98FM Ray Foley 07.00-10.00 36 43 -7 -16%
98FM Dublin Talks 10.00-12.00 34 33 1 3%
98FM Barry Dunne 12.00-16.00 48 43 5 12%
98FM Big Ride Home 16.00-19.00 29 37 -8 -22%
98FM Brian Maher 19.00-21.00 10 9 1 11%

Ya, writing on the wall really for Foley. The only thing is I can imagine the meetings the day after JNLRs over the last year (they were making slow but steady gains before then) and management saying this isn't good enough, need to raise your game. Foley - no problem boss, just let us cut all the sh1t you're making us do and allow us make the type of radio for which we have a great track record. Mgmt - nah, just do more competitions, songs are boring prerecorded interviews with nobodies.
Tbh I'd say the lads are somewhat relieved it's over. Fairly disappointed Adelle couldn't/wouldn't pull strings to loosen up the format.
Also not looking great for Quilty either....

Also interesting figure is the best of Foley on Saturday was only 24k down from 40k year on year. The best of the Stawberry was 89k. Both same time slot on Sat. To me this say more than the weekday results.

Yes Quilty is a bad fit for 98fm - should be on Spin or late evenings

wnolan1992 · 04-02-2016 11:49am

Damn, when your midday show is 12,000 ahead of your Breakfast show, and 19,000 ahead of your Drivetime show, you've got problems...

my friend · 04-02-2016 12:12pm

On those numbers it appears Ray Foley had only accidental listeners and of course the fan boys from this thread

On a side but relevant note, if a radio presenter listens to their own show / podcasts etc is that aural masturbation?

wnolan1992 · 04-02-2016 2:52pm

Just listened to the last podcast. Bit disappointed with it to be honest, thought there was far more pomp and ceremony when leaving Today FM whereas here they just went out with a bit of a whimper (obviously circumstances behind the scenes were different as they more than likely chose to leave Today FM but were more than likely told they were leaving 98 but even so...).

Was funny though when they were getting in the texts and were like "We're getting literally 10's of texts, we'll take these into the boss' office and say 'Here! Look at these numbers!'". :pac:

IUA14 · 04-02-2016 4:37pm

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Just listened to the last podcast. Bit disappointed with it to be honest, thought there was far more pomp and ceremony when leaving Today FM whereas here they just went out with a bit of a whimper (obviously circumstances behind the scenes were different as they more than likely chose to leave Today FM but were more than likely told they were leaving 98 but even so...).

Was funny though when they were getting in the texts and were like "We're getting literally 10's of texts, we'll take these into the boss' office and say 'Here! Look at these numbers!'". :pac:

Probably better off listening to the whole show on Listen Back to be honest, the podcast didn't do it justice. It was 3 and a half hours of completely off-playlist tunes with the lads just chatting in between, really enjoyed it. Elbow, Prodigy etc. Loved that part with the texts and slamming the numbers on the bosses desk, least they can take the piss out of themselves.

I think they did the goodbye as well as they could. They clearly didn't want to have all that pomp and ceremony, completely different situations, TodayFM they left it with the highest ratings ever for that timeslot (its fallen around 30,000+ since then) to do something different, whereas 98FM had some ups but mainly chucking buckets of water off a sinking ship and the water beat them in the end. Think that is why they did their goodbyes a few days earlier to get them out of the way. I think it reached a point where, like Ray said, he just couldn't do it anymore and it had taken its toll and 98FM HAD to try something different because clearly what they were doing wasn't working. With the sinking ship that is 98FM at the moment it was probably best for both parties, but the last 6-10 months of the show we were all commenting on here that, despite the odd excellent show, they didn't seem to be enjoying it as much.

As for 98FM, said it in the JNLR thread, don't see any end in sight, replacing the highly formatted breakfast show they had Foley doing with the same highly formatted show "Cooper and Luke" are doing, with added music, doesn't seem like it will save them.

stannis · 04-02-2016 6:42pm

After 11 years of Foley did we ever actually find out what really happened at the Christmas party in 2005?

soc160 · 04-02-2016 7:08pm

corcaigh_abu wrote: »

Station Programme Time 15Q4 14Q4 +/- Ch %
98FM Ray Foley 07.00-10.00 36 43 -7 -16%
98FM Dublin Talks 10.00-12.00 34 33 1 3%
98FM Barry Dunne 12.00-16.00 48 43 5 12%
98FM Big Ride Home 16.00-19.00 29 37 -8 -22%
98FM Brian Maher 19.00-21.00 10 9 1 11%

Ya, writing on the wall really for Foley. The only thing is I can imagine the meetings the day after JNLRs over the last year (they were making slow but steady gains before then) and management saying this isn't good enough, need to raise your game. Foley - no problem boss, just let us cut all the sh1t you're making us do and allow us make the type of radio for which we have a great track record. Mgmt - nah, just do more competitions, songs are boring prerecorded interviews with nobodies.
Tbh I'd say the lads are somewhat relieved it's over. Fairly disappointed Adelle couldn't/wouldn't pull strings to loosen up the format.
Also not looking great for Quilty either....

There's also the other side to that, if they indulged him too much they could have lost the listeners they had, the podcast stuff was always good but for every person who liked Foley or his show 3 more liked The Strawberry Alarm Clock. Foley said a few times breakfast is about consistency, people want news at the hour, song, funny bit, etc... In order every morning. Hard to move the goalposts too much.

Ray probably wanted to leave by the end and it was a mutual decision. He would probably have been more successful anywhere else in the schedule, I could imagine him in the Dublin Talks slot just playing music and having the chats and being better than breakfast.

New show is exactly what it is, a new show. One positive is the name, now it's a brand things like the morning crew was. I remember listening to one 738am podcast with Dave Moore, he explained in fuzzy details how he would up on breakfast there, seemed to be alota research involved finding someone new and talented. Not sure how much was done this time round, one problem I find is the two guys seem interchangeable. No funny man or sidekick gimmick for good or bad but if that's the case just have one presenter and a producer maybe who occasionally joins in. See how they develop.

Barry is keeping it consistent, wonder if they'd move him to drive to boost numbers or is he suited to where he is as a housewives favourite or background in the office.

IUA14 · 04-02-2016 7:29pm

If I was the incoming CEO at Today FM I would look at the afternoon figures, 94,000 is not good enough for a daytime slot on a national station, 2FM far ahead of them there. Would really love to see the lads back at Today FM at some stage and perfect slot for them.

One of the best podcasts they did at 98FM:
https://soundcloud.com/rayfoleyshow/the-ray-foley-show-podcast-12

IUA14 · 04-02-2016 9:33pm

Wasn't that Adelle's job? Either she has been promoted or she left?

http://ie.radiotodayjobs.com/job/assistant-programme-creative-director/

IUA14 · 04-02-2016 9:33pm

Wasn't that Adelle's job? Either she has been promoted or she left?

http://ie.radiotodayjobs.com/job/assistant-programme-creative-director/

wnolan1992 · 04-02-2016 10:07pm

soc160 wrote: »

There's also the other side to that, if they indulged him too much they could have lost the listeners they had, the podcast stuff was always good but for every person who liked Foley or his show 3 more liked The Strawberry Alarm Clock. Foley said a few times breakfast is about consistency, people want news at the hour, song, funny bit, etc... In order every morning. Hard to move the goalposts too much.

Ray probably wanted to leave by the end and it was a mutual decision. He would probably have been more successful anywhere else in the schedule, I could imagine him in the Dublin Talks slot just playing music and having the chats and being better than breakfast.

New show is exactly what it is, a new show. One positive is the name, now it's a brand things like the morning crew was. I remember listening to one 738am podcast with Dave Moore, he explained in fuzzy details how he would up on breakfast there, seemed to be alota research involved finding someone new and talented. Not sure how much was done this time round, one problem I find is the two guys seem interchangeable. No funny man or sidekick gimmick for good or bad but if that's the case just have one presenter and a producer maybe who occasionally joins in. See how they develop.

Barry is keeping it consistent, wonder if they'd move him to drive to boost numbers or is he suited to where he is as a housewives favourite or background in the office.

On the consistency thing - I think they could have been consistent (in the way you describe) without being as tightly formatted as they were. Sure, they HAVE to do news, traffic, sport, weather at a certain time each hour, but for me what killed the show was the fact it was just "bit" after "bit" after "bit". Too many competitions, too many games (I've long been a proponent of scrapping Eh, Yeah, OK). They could have done the stuff a breakfast show should do as well as doing what made them popular in the first place. If they miss playing a song here and there what harm as long as the chat that takes its place was entertaining and they still hit the signposts (can't think of a better word for news and traffic, but signposts work, y'know the stuff people use to sort of instinctively know if they're late or not).

But yeah, this has all be said before. S'just a shame really.

Synode · 04-02-2016 11:53pm

How in the name of God can Phil Cawley be up 8k listeners. It just doesn't make sense and makes me question all the JNLR figures :pac:

corcaigh_abu · 05-02-2016 9:53am

IUA14 wrote: »

Wasn't that Adelle's job? Either she has been promoted or she left?

Only 2 years of radio experience required for Assistant Programme Director, no wonder 98 is in the dumps.
I mean if they're replacing Adelle, she had like 10 years? coming into the job.

IUA14 · 05-02-2016 11:44am

corcaigh_abu wrote: »

Only 2 years of radio experience required for Assistant Programme Director, no wonder 98 is in the dumps.
I mean if they're replacing Adelle, she had like 10 years? coming into the job.

One would imagine they promoted her but her is to hoping herself, Ray and JP are all free agents.

Foley's fitness kick has got an end goal it seems: https://twitter.com/rayfoleyshow/status/695541599384793088

Radio is for life · 09-02-2016 4:06am

looking forward to hearing Ray back on radio sooner then you might imagine, im sure. :cool:

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 09-02-2016 8:02am

Radio is for life wrote: »

looking forward to hearing Ray back on radio sooner then you might imagine, im sure. :cool:

You tease
National or local?

Euphoria Intensifies · 09-02-2016 9:05am

Radio is for life wrote:

looking forward to hearing Ray back on radio sooner then you might imagine, im sure.

You might as well share the rumour RIFL; isn't this forum built on them?

Loughc · 09-02-2016 9:39am

Is it a rumour? That looks like a pure guess/sweeping statement.

wnolan1992 · 09-02-2016 9:52am

Loughc wrote: »

Is it a rumour? That looks like a pure guess/sweeping statement.

Tomayto-tomahto on this forum tbh. :P

Mr Sea Wolf · 09-02-2016 11:48am

I think Foley will pop up on 2fm in months to come as a locum

Loughc · 09-02-2016 12:04pm

Mr Sea Wolf wrote: »

I think Foley will pop up on 2fm in months to come as a locum

I think he would fit in well on either 2fm or Today FM possible on weekends.

stannis · 09-02-2016 2:18pm

Hmmm, after how much he used to slag off 2FM would they be willing to take him?

IUA14 · 09-02-2016 5:48pm

Radio is for life wrote: »

looking forward to hearing Ray back on radio sooner then you might imagine, im sure. :cool:

Ah now thats just cruel...share the rumour or informed opinion!

I'm hoping he is back on soon...think he would be a much better fit at Today FM than 2FM given their recent changes. My guess is definitely national, can't see him going to another Dublin station, which given his family life in Dublin, would be the only option. Will he end up doing a more serious show with this Masters he is getting/got in journalism tho? Hope not!

Saw he took the piss out of himself on the Seven O'Clock show on Friday when Muireann was talking about the sleep study and saying genetics can determine if you are a morning person or no to which Ray replied "that explains then why I was so terrible on mornings on the radio"

DopeTech · 09-02-2016 10:22pm

stannis wrote: »

Hmmm, after how much he used to slag off 2FM would they be willing to take him?

Did he slag them off that much? I know he mentioned a while back bring offered a job in 2fm a while back but he turned it down because he said 2fm had no identity at the time. Maybe he's liking the new 2. I'm sure he wants to get back on radio as well even if it wasn't his first choice its still national.

IUA14 · 10-02-2016 1:33am

Didn't realise Adelle has been at 98FM nearly two years now as Assistant PD, with her position being advertised does anyone think its more likely she is leaving aswell, rather than moving up? Given how much she seemed to enjoy the podcast-only bits with the lads when she got them back doing them, and how she produced the Naked Breakfast and the the live events I wouldn't be surprised if she missed having a hands on producer role...maybe team up with Foley again...

L1011 · 10-02-2016 1:56pm

FrostyJim wrote: »

Maybe he's liking the new 2.

Or not working has softened his resolve against it, more likely.

soc160 · 11-02-2016 7:50pm

I guess the main problem is there are no gaps at 2fm? I know people hate the current breakfast show and maybe with the TV work they are all getting they will move on I don't see Rté wanting to change get that.

IUA14 · 11-02-2016 9:03pm

soc160 wrote: »

I guess the main problem is there are no gaps at 2fm? I know people hate the current breakfast show and maybe with the TV work they are all getting they will move on I don't see Rté wanting to change get that.

Don't see Ray doing another breakfast show, certainly not a 6-10 show.

heybaby · 12-02-2016 3:48pm

IUA14 wrote: »

Don't see Ray doing another breakfast show, certainly not a 6-10 show.

In retrospect remaining with Today FM might have been advisable. Really no room for him on 2fm.

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 12-02-2016 4:02pm

With the figures that certain shows on Today Fm are doing I'm sure Ray can name his slot and return looking at the figures he done previously! Give him back lunch times and let him be the king again is what I'd do. Neither D & D or KC could recreate his figures despite been extremely talented broadcasters! You could probably put foley back on lunch with the EXACT same features he was doing when he left for 12 months easyily and the figures would soar!

Breakfast with Ray (Foley) and Jay [Cork's Red FM, 6am-9am]

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