The Amazing Spider-Man 2

Thwip! · 29-07-2013 9:19pm

Managed to see the Comic-Con footage today before it was taken down from Youtube.....LOOKS AMAZING

Kylo Ren · 30-07-2013 12:46am

Go to 4:17

krudler · 30-07-2013 12:54am

only watched the first 2 minutes or so of the footage but that looks fun. "lick this!" the wisecracking Spidey is great instead of the mopey whingebag in the Raimi movies.

are they really going with Amazing Spider-Man 2 as a title? would have thought something like The Spectacular Spider-Man or something would have been cool.

Kylo Ren · 30-07-2013 12:56am

krudler wrote: »

are they really going with Amazing Spider-Man 2 as a title? would have thought something like The Spectacular Spider-Man or something would have been cool.

Then creative would have to come up with similar titles for 3 and 4. That would be too much effort.

Soft Falling Rain · 02-12-2013 8:45pm

Alleged first reveal of the Green Goblin (you can see close up of face in the top right hand corner), interesting mix of 616 and Ultimate versions:

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Mickeroo · 02-12-2013 9:25pm

So I take it Rhino is a robot of some sort then. Cool enough poster but it makes me think the film is gonig to be a cluster****, looks like Spider-man 3 all over again.

Soft Falling Rain · 02-12-2013 9:37pm

I thought the first film was let down by the villain of the piece, so if they can strike the right balance (ala how Nolan dealt with multiple villains in the TDK trilogy) then this film has potential. I really like the whole dynamic between Garfield and Stone's Peter and Gwen.

krudler · 02-12-2013 9:59pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

So I take it Rhino is a robot of some sort then. Cool enough poster but it makes me think the film is gonig to be a cluster****, looks like Spider-man 3 all over again.

That's it on the left? I'm not really quite sure what I'm meant to be looking at tbh, is it a suit or something Giamatti is going to be riding in?

pixelburp · 02-12-2013 10:13pm

I can see tank tracks, so is it some form of military vehicle? Looks like something from Robot Wars anyway

3 villains though, ha. An underwhelming first film, and they're going straight into the villain-overload for the sequel? My own spidey-senses still tingle about this one and have my expectations dialled wayyyyyy down.

Bullseye1 · 03-12-2013 1:02am

The trailer has been leaked on a Russian site. Poor quality but it looks rather good. Cannot wait for the HD trailer.
http://vt.tumblr.com/tumblr_mx6oaqrcUW1s42j7g.mp4#_=_

senordingdong · 03-12-2013 11:52pm

The first one had a good trailer too.

irish_stevo815 · 04-12-2013 11:49am

At about 1:05 in the trailer you can see

Doc Ocks mechanical tentalces and Goblins Glider as I presume, Norman Osborne

walks past

McSasquatch · 04-12-2013 12:48pm

irish_stevo815 wrote: »

At about 1:05 in the trailer you can see
Doc Ocks mechanical tentalces and Goblins Glider as I presume, Norman Osborne
walks past

Just had a look there. Wonder if the

glider

may have been

Vulture's flight harness instead

?

Soft Falling Rain · 04-12-2013 1:14pm

McSasquatch wrote: »

Just had a look there. Wonder if the
glider
may have been
Vulture's flight harness instead
?

Could well be given a lot of rumours are pointing to the Sinister 6 in ASM3/4.

I'm not really sure how that would work though, reasonably speaking you're talking about 6 super powered villains against one. So, they might go one of two routes; either Peter beats them with the assistance of the symbiote or he's going to have back up (Black Cat etc...).

Thwip! · 04-12-2013 1:58pm

We should have the trailer by 1:30 pm Thursday, it's apparently hitting the states at 8:30 EST

Soft Falling Rain · 05-12-2013 2:45pm

Trailer, still not sold on Foxx's electro (some of his lines just feel a bit naff) but other than that pretty great trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbp3Ra3Yp74

Oafley Jones · 05-12-2013 3:36pm

Did they splice in scenes from the video game adaptation there. I've never given out about the cgi in a spider-man movie, not even the first Raimi one, but wow... I really hope those are WIP.

A Neurotic · 05-12-2013 4:00pm

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Trailer, still not sold on Foxx's electro (some of his lines just feel a bit naff) but other than that pretty great trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbp3Ra3Yp74

Hmm, at 2:41 I'm worried it's the kind of trailer (i.e. almost every trailer) that gives away about 2 too many story beats... but I do want to see it...

05-12-2013 4:01pm

Spiderman looks good though. I like the Eyes .

krudler · 05-12-2013 4:45pm

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Did they splice in scenes from the video game adaptation there. I've never given out about the cgi in a spider-man movie, not even the first Raimi one, but wow... I really hope those are WIP.

I'd imagine they're unfinished yeah, release is still nearly 5 months away plenty of time for touchups on the CGI. The last one had ok effects in places, particularly the final shot, and rubbish ones in others.

Corholio · 05-12-2013 4:45pm

The scene where Spideran swings around and then kicks Goblin looks dreadful cgi, as Oafley Jones said, it looks like a computer game - a bad one at that.

The trailer itself is ok, it doesn't really get me too excited for it. It could be another case of Spiderman 3 syndrome with too many villains. The only thing I like about it really was Vulture's wings and Doc Ock's tentacles behind the glass as Osborn was walking down the corridor, was a nice touch.

TheDoc · 05-12-2013 5:08pm

Never been a fan of spiderman, could take or leave the last one, but that trailer, it looks pretty woeful

FunLover18 · 05-12-2013 9:10pm

Corholio wrote: »

The scene where Spideran swings around and then kicks Goblin looks dreadful cgi, as Oafley Jones said, it looks like a computer game - a bad one at that.

I also noted that it wasn't DeHaan as the Goblin

Bacchus · 06-12-2013 10:30am

Trailer based spoilers/speculation ahead....

So this trailer pretty much confirms AS3 will be about the Sinister Six. We already know that 3 villains are in this one. Vultures wings and Doc Ocs arms are clearly shown in the lab, making a potential 5 members. Was Connors/Lizard confirmed dead in the last movie? Also, there are 6 doors opening in a shot about half way through (there is a door marked '6' there).

Also, the shot of Spiderman fighting a man on a hover board doesn't look like Green Goblin. Could there be a 4th villain? Could it be an early incarnation of Vulture?

I suspect the Sinister Six will be born at the end of this movie. That shot of the doors opening, could be very near the end, if not the final shot itself.

Soft Falling Rain · 06-12-2013 10:40am

Sony are really going all out, there's a still from the trailer floating about with little lab files labelled "Doc Connors", "Dr Morbius" and "Venom". It does seem like Oscorp will be the root of all evil in this franchise. Will try to find the still.

Soft Falling Rain · 06-12-2013 10:49am

Deano7788 · 06-12-2013 11:01am

Bacchus wrote: »

Trailer based spoilers/speculation ahead....

So this trailer pretty much confirms AS3 will be about the Sinister Six. We already know that 3 villains are in this one. Vultures wings and Doc Ocs arms are clearly shown in the lab, making a potential 5 members. Was Connors/Lizard confirmed dead in the last movie? Also, there are 6 doors opening in a shot about half way through (there is a door marked '6' there).

Also, the shot of Spiderman fighting a man on a hover board doesn't look like Green Goblin. Could there be a 4th villain? Could it be an early incarnation of Vulture?

I suspect the Sinister Six will be born at the end of this movie. That shot of the doors opening, could be very near the end, if not the final shot itself.

Nah, he's in prison in the end. He's seen in a clip during the credits.

I'm really worried this film is going to be busy. There seems to be way too many villains to develop any of them properly. It could be a Spiderman 3 all over again.

Zero-Cool · 06-12-2013 11:03am

I think the Sinister 6 should get their own film ala Avengers after their characters are built up in the Spidey series of films.

Bacchus · 06-12-2013 12:12pm

Deano7788 wrote: »

I'm really worried this film is going to be busy. There seems to be way too many villains to develop any of them properly. It could be a Spiderman 3 all over again.

I don't think it was the number of villains that spoiled S3. It was, IMO, 1) making Peter Parker a douche-bag cocky emo for half the film 2) rushing the Venom story and 3) the final battle with Sandman was ridiculous. All the elements were there for a good movie but there were some poor decisions along the way. I still still a multi villain Spiderman movie can work and if it's being set up that Oscorp is the common denominator, then I can see that working well.

sheehy83 wrote: »

I think the Sinister 6 should get their own film ala Avengers after their characters are built up in the Spidey series of films.

And who be against them? Sony only have the rights to the Spiderman properties so it'd essentially be a Spiderman movie anyway.

Zero-Cool · 06-12-2013 12:15pm

Bacchus wrote: »

And who be against them? Sony only have the rights to the Spiderman properties so it'd essentially be a Spiderman movie anyway.

That's what I meant, it would be a spidey film but on a more epic scale with the 6 villains.

Deano7788 · 06-12-2013 12:24pm

Bacchus wrote: »

I don't think it was the number of villains that spoiled S3. It was, IMO, 1) making Peter Parker a douche-bag cocky emo for half the film 2) rushing the Venom story and 3) the final battle with Sandman was ridiculous. All the elements were there for a good movie but there were some poor decisions along the way. I still still a multi villain Spiderman movie can work and if it's being set up that Oscorp is the common denominator, then I can see that working well.

No, I don't think it was the only thing, there's lots wrong with that film. However, I do think the villains were weak because there was essentially no time to develop them. Venom was the worst of this, it was just far too rushed. My favourite Spiderman film is easily 2, and a large part of that is down to villain. Doc Ock was great, but he was able to be developed over the course of the movie.

I'm not saying that it can't work, just that I'm worried that it may just feel rushed and have no really strong villains, just a number of average ones. It's something I'm also worried about for MoS 2 or whatever they're calling it, except this time it's the number of heroes instead of villains.

I really hope that it works though, because I've been reading the comics for yearsand love the character.

Soft Falling Rain · 06-12-2013 12:36pm

Bacchus wrote: »

And who be against them? Sony only have the rights to the Spiderman properties so it'd essentially be a Spiderman movie anyway.

He'd have to have an ace as otherwise I don't think many could accept him defeating 6 villains, who all gave him a run for his money by themselves, at once.

So that's why I'm thinking he might have the symbiote going up against them.

Or, they might give him some BS allies such as Black Cat and Morbius.

FunLover18 · 06-12-2013 3:37pm

Spider-Man could use Venom to defeat the six, that would set up the next film versus Venom

Mark Hamill · 06-12-2013 10:38pm

The only way for 6 villains to work is for 5 of them to be essentially weapons, controlled by the sixth, who just directs them at Spiderman and I think that could be what we are getting:

We can see in the trailer that Rhino is a mechanical suit, as is Doc Ocs and the Vulture (these two suits seen in the same room in the same scene). Electro is produced by something-something-movie genetics (just like the lizard was in the first one, but with electric eels). Goblin is a cross between both (maybe some sort of general super soldier syrum combined with suit and glider). The last villain is either the lizard again, or it could the scorpion (in a mech suit of some kind). Thats our six. The main is probably Harry Osborne (going by the trailer, he has the most back story). To make the other villains work in such little time, I think they will be very simple characters painted with broad strokes-
Rhino is just some thug who likes to hurt people
Electro is weak nerd given powers
Vulture is old man looking for young power (possibly Norman Osborne? Maybe the suit has some way of draining life force to keep him alive?)
Scorpion is also thug/Connors forced into Lizard & Lizard given opportunity to get revenge on spiderman.
Doc Oc might be guy who designed all the suits - maybe the guy in the trailer in trenchcoat and hat walking by them.

It would make more sense to have them all in this film, rather than 3 now and 3 hinted at (or shown at the end of) in this film and then all 6 for the next film. Doing that would just make the 3rd film feel like a massive rethread of the 2nd film (but with more villains).

The idea of using venom to beat them could work well if (I don't know if this is considered a spoiler, its from the comics - )

Gwen Stacy dies and Spiderman (in the venom suit) goes mad and kills the Goblin for it, thus setting up the 3rd film as Spiderman trying to get back his humanity from the Venom suit which is filled with his rage for her death.

Zero-Cool · 06-12-2013 10:48pm

If they give peter the symbiote suit, they have to add the mandatory emo dance down the street. I nearly cried in the cinema when that happened.

quazzy · 06-12-2013 10:55pm

I remember a tweet from Marc Webb earlier this year that made reference to the Venom suit so I'd be expecting something in this film. Might be a lead up to next movies (as others have posted)

Found it there.

http://m.craveonline.com/film/articles/204571-marc-webb-hints-that-harry-osborn-is-the-new-venom

constitutionus · 11-12-2013 10:02pm

ill be honest i wasnt expecting this !

wasnt that pushed on the first one but i did enjoy it. im far more excited by this one.

should be fun.

Corholio · 12-12-2013 4:54am

I don't think people either realise or put forward the extent of exactly how truly catastrophic Spiderman 3's handling of Venom was. You need more than a film to do it properly IMO, never mind about 20 goddamn minutes.

Bacchus · 12-12-2013 10:49am

Corholio wrote: »

I don't think people either realise or put forward the extent of exactly how truly catastrophic Spiderman 3's handling of Venom was. You need more than a film to do it properly IMO, never mind about 20 goddamn minutes.

Agree with this. It was way too rushed and, aside the first scenes where Peter gets it and the church scene, it was handled quite poorly. Parker turned into an emo assh*le

Venom looked silly, the origin was weak (much prefer the Ultimate Spiderman route than "it's an alien") and Venom's motivations didn't make much sense. Venom could make for a trilogy all on it's own but if these films are going down the SS route, I can see Venom being included too.

A multi-villain movie shouldn't a problem if each has been established already, or at least the main players. It's similar to the multi-hero Avengers movie. Each of the 4 main character have had their own movies, the characters are already set up so you have the time to jump into the action without getting bogged down on backstories, motivations etc.

AS2 is a bit of a risk with 3 new villains but it looks like it's all tied to one main villain... OsCorp/Green Goblin so it could work with the likes of Electro and Rhino as superpowered henchmen.

Corholio · 13-12-2013 7:05pm

Sony have announced that there will be separate 'Venom' and 'Sinister Six' movies.

Soft Falling Rain · 13-12-2013 10:05pm

Both will be redundant if they don't involve Peter Parker. You might get away with Venom, but Sinister 6? You can't have a film solely made of villains, stupidity from Sony if that's the plan.

Mickeroo · 13-12-2013 11:00pm

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Both will be redundant if they don't involve Peter Parker. You might get away with Venom, but Sinister 6? You can't have a film solely made of villains, stupidity from Sony if that's the plan.

I presume it's separate spiderman movies involving them? Personally I think it would be a great idea to have a film thats completely from the villains' point of view, would be something different at least, the genre could do with a bit of experimentation/risk taking.

Venom could easily have his own film though, he's often been a semi kind of good guy in the comics.

McSasquatch · 14-12-2013 7:44pm

Trailer with some new footage here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3uMyhkICQU

krudler · 14-12-2013 8:20pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

I presume it's separate spiderman movies involving them? Personally I think it would be a great idea to have a film thats completely from the villains' point of view, would be something different at least, the genre could do with a bit of experimentation/risk taking.

Venom could easily have his own film though, he's often been a semi kind of good guy in the comics.

I agree, least it'd be different, and not yet another sequel involving a hero, a villain, them being sort of friends, falling out, becoming each other's nemesis, you know the standard Marvel setup. Least it'd give the villains something to do and might make for more rounded characters. I thought Chronicle did a good job of showing how a villain becomes one.

senordingdong · 16-12-2013 2:24pm

Interest for this appears to be losing momentum

syklops · 17-12-2013 6:08pm

senordingdong wrote: »

Interest for this appears to be losing momentum

Based on this thread? Or something else?

Its a week before christmas, people probably have other things on their minds. Its not being released for another 6 months and there is a lot of things happening before then.

My own personal interest for the aforementioned christmas lost momentum sometime back.

pixelburp · 18-12-2013 12:12am

syklops wrote: »

Based on this thread? Or something else?

Its a week before christmas, people probably have other things on their minds. Its not being released for another 6 months and there is a lot of things happening before then.

My own personal interest for the aforementioned christmas lost momentum sometime back.

Well reading a few other blogs and seeing opinions expressed elsewhere, it seems like the confirmation #2 was jumping into the 'multi-villain' territory has knocked the enthusiasm out of a lot of people. I wouldn't blame them, multi-villain superhero movies don't have a great history, so I guess people have tempered their expectations a little. As you say though, it is 6 months down the tracks though ...

syklops · 18-12-2013 10:35am

pixelburp wrote: »

Well reading a few other blogs and seeing opinions expressed elsewhere, it seems like the confirmation #2 was jumping into the 'multi-villain' territory has knocked the enthusiasm out of a lot of people. I wouldn't blame them, multi-villain superhero movies don't have a great history, so I guess people have tempered their expectations a little. As you say though, it is 6 months down the tracks though ...

I found the first one to be a bit under-hyped, and I went in not expecting a lot and I loved it. Maybe its not a lack of enthusiasm, but a lack of under-rating by the studio. Not a bad thing IMO.

Also there might be a touch of comic-book overdose at the minute. Especially with Agents of Sheild on every week acting as a top up.

brevity · 18-12-2013 11:15am

I know Spider-Man is a huge character in the universe but how popular is he now? I mean most of the other Marvel characters we have seen are grown men or women. Spider-Man is a teenager. No one really likes teenagers, especially mouthy ones with super powers.

I don't really think Spider-Man translates well to cinema or maybe he's for a younger audience and I'm a grumpy old man.

syklops · 18-12-2013 11:38am

brevity wrote: »

I know Spider-Man is a huge character in the universe but how popular is he now? I mean most of the other Marvel characters we have seen are grown men or women. Spider-Man is a teenager. No one really likes teenagers, especially mouthy ones with super powers.

I don't really think Spider-Man translates well to cinema or maybe he's for a younger audience and I'm a grumpy old man.

He's only still a teenager because he was late to the big screen and he has been rebooted once already.

As for being mouthy, I think you mean, no-one likes smug teenagers with super powers, and I totally agree, but when not wearing the mask he is anything but smug.

I identified with his character from as young as 6, and I still do. Iron Man/Tony Stark never appealed to me, but I have to admit, now that Im in my 30s, Tony's Billionaire playboy lifestyle does appeal to me.

I think Spidey on the big screen has huge potential, its just been fumbled so many times. The first spiderman movie(2003?) they totally screwed up the way he web-slinged(slung?). It looked naff and didnt get better through out the film. The green goblins mask was about 5 times larger than it should have been and looked cheap.

Spiderman 2 they got a lot of things right. Then the third one came out and look what happened.

Maybe you think its more for younger fans as well because the first outing mirrored the storyline from the animated series where he is with Mary Jane. TAS and TAS2 are following the original and in many ways much darker storyline with Gwen Stacey who Peter loves and you know what happens. TAS seems in many ways to be much slower burning than the previous outing. Slowly introducing Gwen and Oscorp, solidifying their relationship in TAS2, maybe introducing the Green Goblin in TAS3, and with the obvious outcome, leaving an angry and grieving Peter for a 4th darker movie. I said angry and grieving, not Emo, in case any writers are reading this.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2

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