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Galway United 2015 season - MOD Warning in Post #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    Ya but setting up with a paceless Connolly on the left and two holding players who dont wanna go forward in the middle of midfield against a team happy to sit in is just nonsensical stuff.

    No, that's fair enough. He's limited in who he can pick, but yeah, how he sets them up could certainly be different at times.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭youngrun


    No, that's fair enough. He's limited in who he can pick, but yeah, how he sets them up could certainly be different at times.
    Agreed two very similar holding midfielders both good but one is enough? Any of the young lads on bench worth a shot- Raftery/O Laoi/mcdonagh ? Or do the likes of Mervue/SD have any guys who could make the jump, very few city lads on the team which is a bit surprising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,266 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    youngrun wrote: »
    Lost a good few of the squad from last yr, especially top end players like Manning-was going to go anyway, Barrett, Faherty, Conneely, derek O brien . Bought in 3/4 outsiders rather than local additions ? I dont know if there are prospects with Mervue/SDFC etc that can make the jump although am sure Dunne is always looking?
    .

    There is a half decent team there at minute, wonder if the like of Faherty or Alan Murphy could be tempted back to add a bit of extra nous.
    Murphy was past it four years ago so no thanks, theres nobody currently playing in Galway with the necessary desire to play and Vinny is playing with Limerick and wouldnt offer much different to what we have.
    youngrun wrote: »
    Agreed two very similar holding midfielders both good but one is enough? Any of the young lads on bench worth a shot- Raftery/O Laoi/mcdonagh ? Or do the likes of Mervue/SD have any guys who could make the jump, very few city lads on the team which is a bit surprising.
    Same as the above answer to the same question you asked from two weeks ago.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭youngrun


    Same as the above answer to the same question you asked from two weeks ago.


    Hard to understand that more are not coming through given the size of city and number of decent clubs all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Pinturicchio


    youngrun wrote: »
    Hard to understand that more are not coming through given the size of city and number of decent clubs all the same.

    I'm no expert on the matter but from what I hear Galway junior football is a bit of a shambles. I think Galway hasn't won an Oscar Traynor title since the 70s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    youngrun wrote: »
    Hard to understand that more are not coming through given the size of city and number of decent clubs all the same.

    Over the last five years in the region of 60 local lads got loi experience. If any of them were of the standard they would have been signed up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Tomagotchye


    Vinny was a very ordinary player. I'm not disappointed he's gone but I agree with ye that a lack of goals is killing us. The step up has been a hard hit for us so far.

    I didn't realise Garcia had no football last year?! Why did we sign him? I'm sure there were better targets than him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    I didn't realise Garcia had no football last year?! Why did we sign him? I'm sure there were better targets than him.

    He did have football last year. He finished up around the same time Galway won the playoffs here.

    The problem is, he flew in from the US with pre-season already finished, so he got no games and when his work permit came through, he was put straight into the first XI against Cork in Turners Cross. Apparently he did well there but he picked up a yellow and was tiring in the second half, so he was probably wisely subbed off.

    Jake Keegan was in a similar situation. His work permit took ages and he only arrived before the NUIG friendly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    I wouldnt have expected Vinny as a saviour but prefer him to Enda.

    Also the fact some like O'Laoi, McDonagh, Barry havent had any league time strikes as weird. If they cant be trusted then why sign them at all. The way things are going and how Galway are going he should be trying everything. But some players still arent trusted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,266 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    I wouldnt have expected Vinny as a saviour but prefer him to Enda.

    Also the fact some like O'Laoi, McDonagh, Barry havent had any league time strikes as weird. If they cant be trusted then why sign them at all. The way things are going and how Galway are going he should be trying everything. But some players still arent trusted.

    There arent many teenagers/younger inexperienced players that can easily break into first teams around the world, let alone in Ireland where physicality and experience count for a lot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    Also the fact some like O'Laoi, McDonagh, Barry havent had any league time strikes as weird. If they cant be trusted then why sign them at all.

    Going from youth football to LOI Premier isn't easy. There is no under 19 team.

    Who else would he sign for no money that is better?

    They are young players, there is plenty of time. Just because they are there, it doesn't mean he is obliged to blood them in the Premier asap.

    He's had to sign a 23 man squad. There are no u19 games to get them match sharp or see properly how they're developing.

    I'm sure they will get their chance, but it's a big call to throw them in ahead of who's in the team, whether they're in good form or bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭UnleashTheBeast


    I wouldnt have expected Vinny as a saviour but prefer him to Enda.

    Also the fact some like O'Laoi, McDonagh, Barry havent had any league time strikes as weird. If they cant be trusted then why sign them at all. The way things are going and how Galway are going he should be trying everything. But some players still arent trusted.
    Disagree on Vinny/Enda. Vinny was poor last year, he only scored against Cobh/Rovers who weren't much better than junior clubs. I realise the irony, Enda was also poor last year but he has been far improved this season, in my opinion. Certainly outshining Keegan who seems to be daunted by Premier football so far. I don't think Curran is a top striker or anything but for me it was sensible to go for Enda over Vinny and he would've definitely come cheaper also. Faherty was never fit and just lumbered around the pitch.

    Agree totally on your point about young players. True, you can't exactly throw young players willy-nilly into first team Premier Division football but I don't think anybody is asking for that. It's silly when games are dying down and Dunne doesn't give the likes of Barry/O'Laoi etc 10 minutes here or there. He only seems to have faith in Cunningham. I don't know how they will improve if they're just festering on the bench. Use of youngsters is probably Dunne's biggest flaw IMO. With the exception of Manning, who was so obvious a talent, nobody could miss him. It took him half a season to play Alex Byrne...instead he was favouring Mike Elwood and Cian Fadden over him.... Byrne should be one of the first names on the teamsheet and Sinnott should spend some time on the bench. A trio of Byrne, O'Leary and Connolly would be better than a lot of teams and we're yet to see it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭UnleashTheBeast


    Limerick on Friday really is a must win game. A loss would be disastrous for United!

    For me, our strongest starting 11 is

    Gleeson
    Horgan Oji Walsh Ludden
    Shanahan Byrne O'Leary Molloy
    Connolly
    Keegan

    Frustratingly because of injuries and suspensions we've had nowhere near that team on the pitch this season. Dunne will probably start Hanley over Gleeson, which is fair, going on recent form. Oji is serving his last suspension, Molloy is out for a few weeks with a toe injury and he won't drop Sinnott, regardless of his poor form / better options available. He will probably continue to play Keegan wide left again where he is totally useless...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    Ben and civilis yes I'm aware it'd not be easy but how will the young lads get experience? They obviously have to play to get experience. And since we only have 23 players when the experienced first choice arent working out then surely you'd explore ALL the squad to try and better the situation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,266 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Ben and civilis yes I'm aware it'd not be easy but how will the young lads get experience? They obviously have to play to get experience. And since we only have 23 players when the experienced first choice arent working out then surely you'd explore ALL the squad to try and better the situation?

    By all means give them time but not starting games in the middle of a poor run, the best time to blood them would be with 20 minutes left while being comfortably ahead in a game, unfortunately weve yet to be in that position, if he started three teenagers people would giving out that they were out of their depth and why all at once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭UnleashTheBeast


    By all means give them time but not starting games in the middle of a poor run, the best time to blood them would be with 20 minutes left while being comfortably ahead in a game, unfortunately weve yet to be in that position, if he started three teenagers people would giving out that they were out of their depth and why all at once.
    We were in those positions last year in the First Division and he still didn't do it often. I remember we were 3-0 up against Shamrock Rovers at Tallaght Stadium and very, very comfortable winners. He brought Padraic Cunningham on in the 91st minute and Conor Barry on in the 89th minute. Bizarre and totally pointless.

    He's an extremely conservative manager when it comes to using younger players/changing his set 11. Often times last year, players started regardless of form and if you were a substitute you were picking barnacles of wood out of your arse unless you were a very established player coming back from injury for E.G. I don't think anybody is asking for him to throw these lads into the team, starting games or anything, but he clearly has no faith in them and their signings are pointless and are purely to fill United's bench.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭WallyGUFC


    But they're not pointless. While I agree that it'd be preferable to throw them in with 10/15 mins to go in games, you might get caught out with late sucker punches if you do this. They were signed mainly as cover for injuries I'd imagine as the budget is extremely tight. I'm sure we could have gone with a better quality 18 man squad but if we were hit with injuries it'd be game over then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Tomagotchye


    Limerick on Friday really is a must win game. A loss would be disastrous for United!

    I'm nervous about tonight. I don't live in the city either so I'll have to glance at Livescore every few minutes. Limerick are supposed to be crap too and I expect them bottom at season's ends so I expect a victory tonight but that's expectation...I feel like we'll slump into a draw or lose in the last seconds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,760 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Jaysus lads! Are ye all on the piss or what??
    I'm not really a soccer person myself, but I thought this thread would be swamped after tonights result?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭UnleashTheBeast


    Most of the lads that post on here are probably on the way back from the sunny Seaside. :cool:

    Just in the door myself. Fantastic stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Tomagotchye


    Yeah it was an amazing result! Wish I could have seen it now. That's a massive boost. Clean sheet to boot which is very welcome! Hopefully we can get a little momentum running now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,266 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Tis those kind of games that we need to be winning, the Dundalks and Corks of this world are a different level at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    Tis those kind of games that we need to be winning, the Dundalks and Corks of this world are a different level at the moment.

    To be fair, the Dundalk game, fairplay to Towell on the hattrick, but McMillan dived for the peno, the second was going wide only for a huge deflection and the third, fair enough, good strike. Unmarked in the box though. Can't be doing that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 ConConKing


    Such a fantastic result. Really wish it wasn't the weekend before exams and I would have been able to make the trip. We have 9 points so far and they've come from wins against Limerick/Bray/Drogheda the three teams you would expect us to be shooting it out with towards the end of the season. Hopefully we can get close to 2000 at the game on Friday and if the lads manage to put in a good shift and nick something the season could potentially turn quickly in the right direction.


    All the same I'm getting far to ahead of myself it's just one game, but out of all my years (only 7 or so) supporting Galway I can't remember a 5 goal win in the PD so I think we may have the right to be excited by it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    ConConKing wrote: »
    Such a fantastic result. Really wish it wasn't the weekend before exams and I would have been able to make the trip. We have 9 points so far and they've come from wins against Limerick/Bray/Drogheda the three teams you would expect us to be shooting it out with towards the end of the season. Hopefully we can get close to 2000 at the game on Friday and if the lads manage to put in a good shift and nick something the season could potentially turn quickly in the right direction.


    All the same I'm getting far to ahead of myself it's just one game, but out of all my years (only 7 or so) supporting Galway I can't remember a 5 goal win in the PD so I think we may have the right to be excited by it.
    Actually yeah exams? Will we loose any lads due to education commitments? At least Horgan is in NUIG possibly more?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis




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  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Tomagotchye


    Poor result against Pats, not completely unexpected though. Had hoped to snatch a draw at home mind :(

    Another red card too. Hmmm


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 ConConKing


    Great win in Derry earlier. I really didn't expect much from the game. We've a terrible record up there. It's good to know this team is capable of performing away from home with the 5-0 win in Bray and now a 2-0 in Derry in our last 2 trips. If we can keep winning the home games and can keep picking up points away we could be safe with 3/4 games to go.

    We got 9 points from the first series of games and I would have taken 10 points from this series considering we've the top 4 at home. But with that win we should be aiming for 12 of 15. If we're on on 20+ points going into the last series with all the bottom teams to play at home again I'm sure we'd stay clear of the bottom 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    ConConKing wrote: »
    Great win in Derry earlier. I really didn't expect much from the game. We've a terrible record up there. It's good to know this team is capable of performing away from home with the 5-0 win in Bray and now a 2-0 in Derry in our last 2 trips. If we can keep winning the home games and can keep picking up points away we could be safe with 3/4 games to go.

    We got 9 points from the first series of games and I would have taken 10 points from this series considering we've the top 4 at home. But with that win we should be aiming for 12 of 15. If we're on on 20+ points going into the last series with all the bottom teams to play at home again I'm sure we'd stay clear of the bottom 2.

    24 points should surely be enough


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭youngrun


    Some win alright, and a fairly different team - maybe thats our best one???!!!
    Hopefully they can get a couple of home wins and draw the crowds now after that


  • Registered Users Posts: 34 JJpedro


    On Friday night, I looked at RTE aertel , it showed them winning 2-0, I got Derry Radio on my computer and listened to 2nd half , it was very tense , I kept thinking that Derry would score in 2nd half but Galway Utd held on, I think that Ryan Connolly is brillant , hopefully we can hold on to him. It was a great result , looking forward to RTE tonight so that I can see the goals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis




  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Tomagotchye


    Crazy score. Goals are flying in now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    Crazy score. Goals are flying in now!

    I think Bohs had only conceded a single goal on the road until last night.


  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Tomagotchye


    I think Bohs had only conceded a single goal on the road until last night.

    I actually didn't know that. Makes the result even better. I like that we haven't drawn yet. I don't know how long that will last but it feels like we live and die by the sword of sorts. Roll on the next game!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭LoonyLovegood


    How much is it in for the match tonight does anyone know?


  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Intifada


    How much is it in for the match tonight does anyone know?
    It's usually 15 or 10 with a student card (15 is a total rip off btw).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Ruben Remus


    How much is it in for the match tonight does anyone know?

    I think it's €10 for league cup games.


  • Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭_Puma_


    Intifada wrote: »
    It's usually 15 or 10 with a student card (15 is a total rip off btw).

    I dont think i've walked out of Terryland this season after paying €15 feeling that ive been ripped off... €15 is standard across most clubs in the Premier Division with some in Dublin charging €20 I think. €10 Discount price for Students/Unemployed/Cup games and U12's get in free. They have got the pricing spot on this season in my opinion.

    Missed the game on Friday but was highly entertaining by the sounds of things! Highlights tonight should be good, the ref buttimer made a few howlers apparently. Dont have fond memories of him reffing our games in the past at all!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Intifada


    _Puma_ wrote: »
    I dont think i've walked out of Terryland this season after paying €15 feeling that ive been ripped off... €15 is standard across most clubs in the Premier Division with some in Dublin charging €20 I think. €10 Discount price for Students/Unemployed/Cup games and U12's get in free. They have got the pricing spot on this season in my opinion.
    I know it's probably the going rate and they have costs to balance, I just don't think €15 is much value for money given the standard of football and atmosphere compared to other leagues. I don't mean either are especially bad - I have enjoyed myself every time I've been but I've also paid 10-15 more in other leagues and enjoyed it much, much more.

    Tenner in is grand though, and I still have my student card :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Intifada wrote: »
    I know it's probably the going rate and they have costs to balance, I just don't think €15 is much value for money given the standard of football and atmosphere compared to other leagues. I don't mean either are especially bad - I have enjoyed myself every time I've been but I've also paid 10-15 more in other leagues and enjoyed it much, much more.

    Tenner in is grand though, and I still have my student card :)

    cost twenty to stand up in a gaa pitch to watch leitrim play Galway. Poor pitch,poor facilities, poor atmosphere, poor match,shocking toilets. Terryland is fantastic value by comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Pinturicchio


    An adult season ticket works out at about 8 or 9 euro per game. Great value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭death1234567


    It's €20-€30 depending on the game for Connacht tickets. €15 is about right for Galway United games and the season ticket is a bargain (unlike the Connacht one).


  • Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭_Puma_


    Have had some of my best matchday experiences at Terryland over the years and I dont say that lightly. UCD playoff being one of the more recent ones. Have had the distinct feeling of being ripped off coming out of Pearse Stadium or the Sportsground over the years too. All relative I guess but for someone who enjoys watching the real thing over sitting in a pub watching a game on TV I think it's great value and there are a lot worse things you be spending your money on a Friday night!


  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Intifada


    Bit unfair to compare it to something as shíte as rugby. I've gone to that with free tickets and felt ripped off :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Intifada


    Must have read my post
    http://galwayunitedfc.ie/admission-prices-lowered-for-bohemians-cup-clash/

    Admission prices:
    Adult: €10
    Concession (Student/Senior Citizen): €5
    U12: FREE!


  • Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭_Puma_


    Ha good timing! Fair dues, knocking a five off for a cup game is a nice gesture considering the season tickets aren't allowed due to competition rules. Might venture up later on. Probably expect half the crowd that was there Friday night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭UnleashTheBeast


    I'm really looking forward to this.

    A place in the semi-final of the league cup is not to be scoffed at, hopefully we will go on runs in both cups. Good idea to reduce the tickets, should put a few extra on the gate.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Tomagotchye


    I was at a cup game last year and there was barely anybody there. Saying that I dragged two people from work for their first game and we had a brilliant time! Good weather, good football...all it takes. Hopefully another win. Cup runs are important for morale.

    I'm looking forward to Soccer Republic tonight for the highlights of Friday.


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