Masterpiece / Masterpiece compatible Discussion.

DBK · 18-01-2015 10:37pm

I'll pick all the G1s but none of the repaints unless they are from the original G1 group. Red tracks is a no for me. Can't wait for an official statement.

ChopShop · 18-01-2015 10:51pm

Anything Masterpiece that throws a nod to Diaclone works fine for me.

Whammy! · 19-01-2015 10:12am

I'm so happy if Tracks is officially next. I mentioned a few pages ago about wanting Tracks with no previous idea that he was actually one of the rumors.

I am curious about the Diaclone issues. I should be getting Wheeljack soon in the post and depending on how I like the mold I may also go for Exhaust, because I do like the look of him.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is the original Diaclone Tracks meant to be female? (not sure where I read that)

ChopShop · 19-01-2015 3:25pm

Talk of Tracks has been coming from inside sources for a good while now...at least a year.

Whammy! wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is the original Diaclone Tracks meant to be female? (not sure where I read that)

Road Rage, the repaint of (reissue) Tracks from the early 2000s, is 'Female'.

Diaclone, they were all marketed as mechs/exoskeletons controlled by human-sized pilots, IIRC.

MarkHall · 20-01-2015 10:50am

They where. Slightly more articulated Humans than Zoids came with them.
But not by much.

21-01-2015 12:24am

I got Takara Soundwave today but am curious about the other cassettes. Surely there couldn't be much of a difference between the KOs and the authentic ones? Anybody know for sure.

AxlF · 21-01-2015 3:25am

Deleted User wrote: »

I got Takara Soundwave today but am curious about the other cassettes. Surely there couldn't be much of a difference between the KOs and the authentic ones? Anybody know for sure.

I'm waiting on a KO Ratbat which I bought on the strength of positive YouTube reviews. The videos for KO MP-15 Ravage and Rumble show they are almost identical with the only flaw being the tiny stickers are not centred perfectly.

I have a KO Streak and it is indistinguishable from a real one unless you really inspect it.

ChopShop · 21-01-2015 9:54am

A friend has KO Ratbat, and i have the real one.
KO is fairly close, but when you compare the details it becomes easy enough to spot the differences.

21-01-2015 5:08pm

I paid for one of these. Looks too good to be true but I contacted the seller beforehand and he swears blind they're authentic.

AxlF · 21-01-2015 9:57pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I paid for one of these. Looks too good to be true but I contacted the seller beforehand and he swears blind they're authentic.

That's a very nice looking authentic box

ChopShop · 21-01-2015 10:02pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I paid for one of these. Looks too good to be true but I contacted the seller beforehand and he swears blind they're authentic.

Date stamp matches my Frenzy and Buzzsaw...and mine is 'real'...so maybe it is authentic.

Or, they're using very close replica boxes/putting KOs in 'real' boxes.

It probably is real though.

Do KO Masterpiece boxes still have the date stamp on them?

AxlF · 21-01-2015 10:09pm

ChopShop wrote: »

Date stamp matches my Frenzy and Buzzsaw...and mine is 'real'...so maybe it is authentic.

Or, they're using very close replica boxes/putting KOs in 'real' boxes.

It probably is real though.

Do KO Masterpiece boxes still have the date stamp on them?

My KO Streak did.

That seller has some good stuff and prices. It looks like the items that come out the back door of the factory. There's another seller called Lena and he always has unboxed TFs for sale almost as soon as they are released. He had a flood of MP Bumblebees and Gold MP-05s a while ago. I've bought a lot of Generations stuff from him.

On another MP(ish) tape note - does anyone have any hands on experience with the KFC tapes? I have Transistor (who is a phenomenal interpretation of Blaster despite paint flaws) and he is sorely outnumbered by Soundwave et al.

21-01-2015 10:42pm

AxlF wrote: »

There's another seller called Lena

Have you a link please?

ChopShop · 21-01-2015 10:58pm

http://www.ebay.com/sch/lena81822/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSXS%3AMESOI&_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2654

21-01-2015 11:13pm

Wow! Thanks ....I see they're also selling the Masterpiece Cassettes. I'm not sure if they're KO or not. The box looks right but the prices say KO. I looked at the item description and found:

Now it has the KO items for selling, pls compare the BOX package and the items inside when you received, then it can know what's the original item with the KO items, Hope you can see the pictures carefully from our store that's the real/original shoot items for that!!! Thanks!

I read it and re-read it several times and still haven't a clue what it means!!!!

AxlF · 22-01-2015 3:27am

I'm not going to vouch 100% or anything but everything I have bought was legit as far as i could tell.

I think that garbled message is saying that there are KOs available in general but the photos they have taken of their own stock are of real MPs and you can compare when you get the items.
Mind you, one of his MP-15 auctions ended at $3.75 so what the hell do I know.

I find that most sellers that sell KOs are happy to advertise that fact - like Uncle Billy on Aliexpress. He's great for genuine Takara, Third party, KOs and KOs of Third party.
So a search for MP Prowl will give up 2 results - one Takara, one KO and the prices will be adjusted accordingly.

Anyway - so now that MP-25 has been confirmed as NOT Megatron is anyone interested in X-Transbots Apollyon?
He looks great in pictures at the moment but I have seen some amazingly bad reviews of XTBs other products, specifically Ollie, the MP Wheelie they did.

DBK · 22-01-2015 11:07am

After stating earlier that I only buy G1's and not the repaints of characters that came later, I bought Masterpiece Sunstorm. I just liked the look of it. Might buy Tigertrack to go with the yellow theme...Must resist....oh why do they pay me money?

JohnMc1 · 24-01-2015 5:09pm

Finally got to grab my Masterpieces out of the attic [been having work done here the last couple of weeks] and snapped some pics.

ChopShop · 24-01-2015 6:05pm

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Finally got to grab my Masterpieces out of the attic [been having work done here the last couple of weeks] and snapped some pics.

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I'm staring really hard, but still can't see Wheeljack

DBK wrote: »

After stating earlier that I only buy G1's and not the repaints of characters that came later, I bought Masterpiece Sunstorm. I just liked the look of it. Might buy Tigertrack to go with the yellow theme...Must resist....oh why do they pay me money?

Tigertrack was a day one preorder for me, and not just as a stop-gap-Sunstreaker.
So was the TT verison of Sunstorm. The Hasb... We all had a fair idea that was going on Sale and even then i thought twice about it.

JohnMc1 · 24-01-2015 6:13pm

ChopShop wrote: »

I'm staring really hard, but still can't see Wheeljack

I'm hoping to get Wheeljack and Bumblebee soon.

DBK · 24-01-2015 10:37pm

ChopShop wrote: »

Tigertrack was a day one preorder for me, and not just as a stop-gap-Sunstreaker.
So was the TT verison of Sunstorm. The Hasb... We all had a fair idea that was going on Sale and even then i thought twice about it.

Might have to pick up Tigertrack so. Wasn't going to get Sunstorm but when a masterpiece goes on sale, I have trouble resisting. I had two Skywarps but still bought another one when Argos sold them off for 23 quid. Would have picked up Grimlock again except they weren't in stock.

DBK · 25-01-2015 12:38am

Has anyone bought any of those Masterpiece type Dinobots. Would really love a Snarl Masterpiece but just worried about the quality?

ChopShop · 25-01-2015 11:02am

DBK wrote: »

Has anyone bought any of those Masterpiece type Dinobots. Would really love a Snarl Masterpiece but just worried about the quality?

I have Scoria.

Soar i don't have. I still can't make up my mind on what deco to pick, and 'bird' Transformers are always fundamentally limited to me. So i'm not buying more than one Soar.

Scoria was criticised for the hips not being able to support the weight of the legs properly when suspended. Up/Down shoulder swilvels tend to be loose.

The second part was fixed..sort of. New shoulder assemblies were supplied. Tighter but still looser than i would like.

The hip issue... Scoria isn't easy to take apart, that one is essentially unresolved.

Scuffed Chrome from the factory seems a bit more common than it should be.

LED problems with sword and gun, becoming non-functional, or apparently never worked at all. Seen a bit of that too.

Horns take on a slightly tarnished finish after a while. I can live with it.

Complaints they used diecast to the point of detremental weight in some areas.

Soar...

Tabs that lock the legs in place are apparently still an issue after video reviews of samples pointed out problems. Complaints they went overkill on the diecast again.

Might be other things (?)....i will admit i tuned out a bit for the moment.

FT are not a flash-in-the-pan...they do send out replacement parts and do interact on boars. Even MMC don't do that much now (?)

But there are some ongoing issues. Quakewave had fairly few problems IIRC. So i don't know if it's a new factory or something inherent to Masterpieceish Dinobots becsuse of size.

TLDR: Sever is likely to have some issues too. FT will prob address them. If they eliminate them, we'll see.

Gigapower are still vaporware..size on their Snarl looks interesting tho. I personally dislike the way they have gone more toy than cartoon with the front legs.

Bullfire...

Well Airstrike is out, and i think it is at least in scale with Grimlock. I think it may even be reasonably well made (?) But i think they're gonna get left behind somehow.

DBK · 25-01-2015 11:43am

Thanks for that. I really like FT version of Snarl ( and their other models) so it is just down to the quality at this stage.

AxlF · 25-01-2015 5:29pm

OK, got Magnus. No import tax or anything so I got lucky there.
First impressions - His truck is beautiful and his transformation is, maybe, the best transformation process I've ever seen. It's a really good blend of cleverness, difficulty, intuitiveness and solidity.

The truck comes away from the trailer too which is a nice touch.

The material is a good combination of high quality plastic and die cast making him very heavy - at 1.02kg he's 200g heavier than Citizen Stack but much lighter than MP-01.

But the robot... the robot is a brick, a pure brick. And the back view is hideous.

He's almost G1

You can see the brotherly resemblance.

And spot the guy with no waist swivel...

In fairness, from the front he looks a lot better but his range of motions is fairly limited. However, he can sort of do the movie pose.

Personally, I am happy with him but he'll be staying as a truck. I'll load him up with cars.

DBK · 25-01-2015 5:47pm

Nice photos. Ordered mine to complete the G1 set. Was thinking about citizen stack for a while now and now they are selling him off for around 100 dollars I might look him some more.

JohnMc1 · 25-01-2015 7:01pm

AxlF wrote: »

OK, got Magnus. No import tax or anything so I got lucky there.
First impressions - His truck is beautiful and his transformation is, maybe, the best transformation process I've ever seen. It's a really good blend of cleverness, difficulty, intuitiveness and solidity.

The truck comes away from the trailer too which is a nice touch.

The material is a good combination of high quality plastic and die cast making him very heavy - at 1.2kg he's 400g heavier than Citizen Stack but much lighter than MP-01.

But the robot... the robot is a brick, a pure brick. And the back view is hideous.

He's almost G1

You can see the brotherly resemblance.

And spot the guy with no waist swivel...

In fairness, from the front he looks a lot better but his range of motions is fairly limited. However, he can sort of do the movie pose.

Personally, I am happy with him but he'll be staying as a truck. I'll load him up with cars.

Great pictures AxlF. Yeah the buttflap for Magnus is weird. I guess they'll never be able to get them 100% toon accurate.

I've been thinking of getting Citizen Stack for awhile. He makes a great updated G-1 figure so i might display him with my BT/Alts collection.

AxlF · 25-01-2015 7:33pm

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Great pictures AxlF. Yeah the buttflap for Magnus is weird. I guess they'll never be able to get them 100% toon accurate.

I've been thinking of getting Citizen Stack for awhile. He makes a great updated G-1 figure so i might display him with my BT/Alts collection.

Thanks.
Stack is by no means perfect. He's lighter and a bit wobblier and he needs the extra SXS head to look good. But his robot mode is, in my opinion, a better looking and more playable representation. I think the wobbly hip is a OK pay off for having hip swivel.
His truck mode is very good too but compared to MP-22 it's a bit... actually they are similar enough with MP-22 edging it due to removable truck and being able to carry 4 cars (Stack only holds 3). The transformation was fine but now feels cumbersome in comparison too.
Stack is huge.

He scales perfectly with MP-01 and terribly with MP-10

He's also mean to his baby bro

JohnMc1 · 26-01-2015 12:04am

AxlF wrote: »

Thanks.
Stack is by no means perfect. He's lighter and a bit wobblier and he needs the extra SXS head to look good. But his robot mode is, in my opinion, a better looking and more playable representation. I think the wobbly hip is a OK pay off for having hip swivel.
His truck mode is very good too but compared to MP-22 it's a bit... actually they are similar enough with MP-22 edging it due to removable truck and being able to carry 4 cars (Stack only holds 3). The transformation was fine but now feels cumbersome in comparison too.
Stack is huge.

He scales perfectly with MP-01 and terribly with MP-10

He's also mean to his baby bro

Thanks AxlF. I love my MP-Magnus but I was on the fence about Stack. I heard the 2.0 were better than the original release [that seems to be par for the course with 3rd Party products. It was the same with Miracle metal Works Vehicle Voltron] Big Badtoystore is doing a deal on Stack with the SXS heads for $139.99
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=KFC10052&mode=retail

That's why I've been thinking of getting him as well.

AxlF · 26-01-2015 1:02am

That's a good price with the head included. Shipping is a bit high though.
This has the guy I bought it from
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Keith-Fantasy-Club-Eavl-Metal-Citizen-Stack-In-stock/2040015465.html
I've used this guy several times and other than a slight misunderstanding about the replacement joints for Stack it's all been good. €115 delivered, no SXS head though.

DBK · 26-01-2015 10:41am

Was looking at Citzen Stack on TFsource.com as they have him for the same price as BigBadToystore. Put it through the cart and shipping is like 60 dollars, bringing it to 200 dollars shipped. That works out at around 180 euros give or take. Shipping is a killer on this one.

AxlF · 29-01-2015 10:41pm

Had this in the third party forum but seeing as it's third party MP style KFC Transistor (Blaster) I just wanted to post my update here.
I've had some issues but mostly resolved now. A replacement for a broken foot tab is on it's way from OmegaLock. Cartoon head is removed for a comic book head. Used Tamiya X-27 red to touch up the tiny areas where the paint got chipped.
The original test shots had silver buttons but the final product had black. Not sure why that changed but I've painted this guy's buttons silver.
Added the Autobot logo and the Autoscout cassette. Also figured out how to store his rifle on his back, which is a nice touch.
Really like this guy. Best Third Party since Quakewave IMO. And the best transformer in general, that I have bought in a while.

DBK · 20-02-2015 4:17pm

Rumours floating around of a TRU Masterpiece Starscream. Would be nice if it was true, though I have a few MP Starscreams floating around as it is.

ChopShop · 20-02-2015 4:57pm

DBK wrote: »

Rumours floating around of a TRU Masterpiece Starscream. Would be nice if it was true, though I have a few MP Starscreams floating around as it is.

Given the source, you can probably take it as true for the moment.

DBK · 20-02-2015 7:28pm

Cool. Now just a 2.5 year wait for MP Skywarp if they decide to release him based on TRU Thundercracker time frame.

MarkHall · 21-02-2015 1:21am

DBK wrote: »

Rumours floating around of a TRU Masterpiece Starscream. Would be nice if it was true, though I have a few MP Starscreams floating around as it is.

Really hope its not a sunstorm repaint as that mould is a tad lacking for me.

There's also talk of a Leaderclass Screamer thanks to this

Might be nice. I enjoyed the Jetfire it springs from.

Whammy! · 21-02-2015 8:16am

Finally! A proto picture of Tracks

Apart from the flippy panel insignia I think he looks great.

DBK · 21-02-2015 6:07pm

Whammy! wrote: »

Finally! A proto picture of Tracks

Apart from the flippy panel insignia I think he looks great.

Waist looks a little thin. Need to see it from another angle.

Whammy! · 22-02-2015 7:33am

I believe the waist is facing away from the camera while the upper body is facing towards the camera which is making proportions seem off.
Not to mention that the paper isn't completely flat with the camera. The straight lines for the box around Tracks are crooked.

So yeah needless to say, a proper photo with a decent pose is needed. I'm sure Takara aren't going to release a modern masterpiece with odd proportions.

JohnMc1 · 22-02-2015 6:17pm

So Tracks isn't coming out until 3rd Quarter. I wonder if that means a dry spell of releases once Star Saber comes out in a few weeks. Or will we be getting repaints of existing molds during that time period.

ChopShop · 22-02-2015 7:49pm

JohnMc1 wrote: »

So Tracks isn't coming out until 3rd Quarter. I wonder if that means a dry spell of releases once Star Saber comes out in a few weeks. Or will we be getting repaints of existing molds during that time period.

MP10 reissue in May, IIRC. G2 Bumblebee in July. Prowl and Wheeljack were both released in August of their respective years. So i'm guessing that's where Tracks is going.

April, don't know. June... June seems to be the month for Tokyo Toy Show Masterpiece repaints.(?).and there's been no BLUEstreak yet... That's not to say i've heard anything solid. TT also seem to be avoiding (mass) releasing 'more expensive' Generations items and Masterpiece items in the same month...and Unite Superion was solicited for June.

5 month delay is getting kind of silly tho. They need to speed up.

JohnMc1 · 23-02-2015 5:18pm

ChopShop wrote: »

MP10 reissue in May, IIRC. G2 Bumblebee in July. Prowl and Wheeljack were both released in August of their respective years. So i'm guessing that's where Tracks is going.

April, don't know. June... June seems to be the month for Tokyo Toy Show Masterpiece repaints.(?).and there's been no BLUEstreak yet... That's not to say i've heard anything solid. TT also seem to be avoiding (mass) releasing 'more expensive' Generations items and Masterpiece items in the same month...and Unite Superion was solicited for June.

5 month delay is getting kind of silly tho. They need to speed up.

Thanks Chopshop. Yeah these delays suck. I would love a Blue Bluestreak as well. I'm surprised he along with Clamp-Down and Deep-Cover haven't been announced yet.

ChopShop · 23-02-2015 9:08pm

I forgot:

Mp11 and Mp14 were also in the rumour mill for Takara reissues. As opposed to Hasbro Asia. This would translate into less stiff pricing since the Yen is on the weak side, and Takara are less opportunistic with pricing

JohnMc1 · 23-02-2015 10:39pm

ChopShop wrote: »

I forgot:

Mp11 and Mp14 were also in the rumour mill for Takara reissues. As opposed to Hasbro Asia. This would translate into less stiff pricing since the Yen is on the weak side, and Takara are less opportunistic with pricing

I thought Red Alert reissue was released before Christmas? Robotkingdom is saying that Exhaust and Star Saber will be released on the 21st of March. Is any other site saying the same thing?

ChopShop · 24-02-2015 10:54am

JohnMc1 wrote: »

I thought Red Alert reissue was released before Christmas? Robotkingdom is saying that Exhaust and Star Saber will be released on the 21st of March. Is any other site saying the same thing?

I thought that was Hasbro Asia? Maybe there's no Japanese reissue of MP14 at all.(?)

Star Saber, one Japanese site is saying 'about march 15th' another is saying 'mid march'

Exhaust, if you're referring to the yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no thing with Philip Morris sending threatening letters to retailers, i don't think Takara have actually cancelled it yet, or revised it any further.

Some retailers cancelled orders, others took it down and say they'll fill orders already placed.

Otherwise, should be the same release date as Star Saber?

Whammy! · 24-02-2015 2:11pm

Scan from Tag Hobby.

Another picture of Tracks from a more flattering angle.
Also pictures of Star Saber showing loads of little things. I placed a pre-order for Star Saber a while ago. Very glad I did. Been getting more and more into Transformers Victory and more hyped for his release.

I hope he does well and Takara release more Japanese Transformers like Ginrai (Masterforce) or Chromedome (Headmasters) etc.

ChopShop · 24-02-2015 6:31pm

Whammy! wrote: »

I hope he does well and Takara release more Japanese Transformers like Ginrai (Masterforce) or Chromedome (Headmasters) etc.

Hints have been dropped where Ginrai is concerned...

Chromedome, well you've probably seen Maketoys Cuppola, if that meets your requirements.

Whammy! · 24-02-2015 7:25pm

Yeah I saw Cuppola. First time I was interested in a 3rd party product. Actually it's the second time

The first time was when I saw Apollyon.

I'll wait to see a colored version of Cuppola (not a digibash) before I make my mind up. They only major negative I have with Cuppola is with the headmaster itself, Stylor. Did not look good. But everything else ticked the right boxes including the scale.

So now that Tracks is official it looks like Ironhide will be on his way at some point. How does everyone think he will transform? With or without a sled?
After seeing how they when with Ultra Mangus's toon transformation rather than the toy, I would imagine they will do the same for Ironhide.

ChopShop · 24-02-2015 10:34pm

Whammy! wrote: »

Yeah I saw Cuppola. First time I was interested in a 3rd party product. Actually it's the second time The first time was when I saw Apollyon.

I'll wait to see a colored version of Cuppola (not a digibash) before I make my mind up. They only major negative I have with Cuppola is with the headmaster itself, Stylor. Did not look good. But everything else ticked the right boxes including the scale.

So now that Tracks is official it looks like Ironhide will be on his way at some point. How does everyone think he will transform? With or without a sled?
After seeing how they when with Ultra Mangus's toon transformation rather than the toy, I would imagine they will do the same for Ironhide.

Apparently it's 'with'. How much of a sled that actually is, we'll see.

An alternate Stylor, from another party, could happen. How that paint is applied, we'll see...but MT are usually pretty G1accurate with colors...i think (?)

JohnMc1 · 24-02-2015 10:51pm

ChopShop wrote: »

Apparently it's 'with'. How much of a sled that actually is, we'll see.

I always considered it a Battle platform [like Rodimus'] rather than a sled.

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