The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2

09-03-2015 6:57pm

matthew8 wrote: »

He might not get in because he didn't play for long enough but I'd have him in there. He's been the best in the league at his position (and hence one of the best players in the league) for a solid 5 years and given it's such an important position I think that's enough.

I agree also he was a (the?) leader on a successful side I would vote him in no doubt

SameOleJay · 09-03-2015 7:16pm

I read Wills had 5 straight first team all-pros.

That is absolutely outrageous.

matthew8 · 09-03-2015 7:26pm

Clementine Scary String wrote: »

I agree also he was a (the?) leader on a successful side I would vote him in no doubt

Yeah that's another good factor for him, when the team got good there seemed to be a lot of positive personalities on the team but he seems to have been the leader. Tbh I think if his career was ended by a neck injury of something he'd be sure to get in eventually, the fact he chose to end his career this early rather than having it forced on him could hurt him. Odds are though we haven't seen the last of him on the pitch, he could even take a couple of years off and still be in good enough shape to come back. We've seen Fletcher and Lewis last forever in the position too.

Realt Dearg Sec · 09-03-2015 8:25pm

I just wanted to post this here, some people raising awareness for a very important cause, and a beautiful but endangered species: the every down running back...

Save the Running Back | Steven Jackson: http://youtu.be/kIMn2IAlqC4

HigginsJ · 09-03-2015 11:14pm

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2390427-2015-nfl-free-agents-investigation-latest-details-and-reaction

The NFL are unhappy with contracts apparently being agreed during the "legal tampering" period. Give them an inch.....

Paully D · 09-03-2015 11:37pm

Disappointed to see Willis retire as he's so good to watch, but I would never hold it against any player to be honest. Over $42m in career earnings and he gets out without any serious injury (perhaps before his toe starts giving him irreversible pain).

In this sport, that's job done.

10-03-2015 2:27am

jesus 9ers having about as bad a day as you can have full back bruce miller has been arrested for domestic abuse. if this is true he's a ****ing idiot of all the things people are currently aware about in the nfl (the key being if its true its almost hard to believe someone would be this stupid given recent issues)

mikemac1 · 10-03-2015 5:27am

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Apparently he's retiring after experiencing a religious awakening, according to some rumours anyway.

That happened the 49ers before

Glen Coffee was a 3rd round pick and backed up Frank Gore at running back.

Coming into training camp his second year he retired from football to become a pastor.

about 5 years ago or so

adrian522 · 10-03-2015 8:14am

Clementine Scary String wrote: »

jesus 9ers having about as bad a day as you can have full back bruce miller has been arrested for domestic abuse. if this is true he's a ****ing idiot of all the things people are currently aware about in the nfl (the key being if its true its almost hard to believe someone would be this stupid given recent issues)

We're now also being linked with Greg hardy. if there was a league for running a club into the ground, we'd be having an all pro off season.

10-03-2015 8:53am

mikemac1 wrote: »

That happened the 49ers before

Glen Coffee was a 3rd round pick and backed up Frank Gore at running back.

Coming into training camp his second year he retired from football to become a pastor.

about 5 years ago or so

coffee was a serious running back if i remember correctly looked like he was going to be one of the best in the nfl

Paully D · 10-03-2015 11:03pm

In the wake of Willis' retirement, I was having a look back at the 2007 draft class. What a great class that was!

In the first couple of rounds alone there was Megatron, J.Thomas, Landry, Peterson, Willis, Lynch, Revis, Timmons, Meriweather, Staley, Grubbs, Olsen, Beason, Bowe, Weddle, Z.Miller, Rice, Woodley and S.Smith.

UnitedIrishman · 10-03-2015 11:44pm

.. and we got Justin Harrell.

adrian522 · 10-03-2015 11:59pm

Paully D wrote: »

In the wake of Willis' retirement, I was having a look back at the 2007 draft class. What a great class that was!

In the first couple of rounds alone there was Megatron, J.Thomas, Landry, Peterson, Willis, Lynch, Revis, Timmons, Meriweather, Staley, Grubbs, Olsen, Beason, Bowe, Weddle, Z.Miller, Rice, Woodley and S.Smith.

Good draft for the niners that year. Walked away with Willis, Staley, Ray McDonald and dashon goldson I think.

Chucky the tree · 11-03-2015 12:08am

As a Raiders fan I'll never forgot the 2007 draft. Just horrible.

JaMarcusHustle · 15-03-2015 2:11pm

Just read today that of the 60 players currently on the Packers roster, Julius Peppers is the only one to have played for a team other than Green Bay. There are players who've been on other teams but have never played (i.e. Scott Tolzien). That's a pretty incredible statistic given the level of turnover in the league.

Knex* · 15-03-2015 2:16pm

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Just read today that of the 60 players currently on the Packers roster, Julius Peppers is the only one to have played for a team other than Green Bay. There are players who've been on other teams but have never played (i.e. Scott Tolzien). That's a pretty incredible statistic given the level of turnover in the league.

They've only signed something like 5 players in FA since 2007 as well, I believe.

Paully D · 17-03-2015 1:57am

Not NFL I know, but 30 for 30's 'The U Part 2' is a great watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tOsFQAN9Yc

Look at how good that 2001 Hurricanes roster was, pretty crazy when you look at the draftees. 38 of the whole roster drafted, with 17 first round picks. Madness!

JCTO · 17-03-2015 4:01am

49ers not having a great off season and this is a weird one. Borland is a player with tremendous talent and only 24 and now decides to retire

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000479460/article/san-francisco-49ers-chris-borland-retiring-from-nfl

Shedite27 · 17-03-2015 9:46am

Paully D wrote: »

Look at how good that 2001 Hurricanes roster was, pretty crazy when you look at the draftees. 38 of the whole roster drafted, with 17 first round picks. Madness!

That's a great squad. Crazy to think they were all on the same college team.

Tippex · 17-03-2015 11:08am

JCTO wrote: »

49ers not having a great off season and this is a weird one. Borland is a player with tremendous talent and only 24 and now decides to retire

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000479460/article/san-francisco-49ers-chris-borland-retiring-from-nfl

I just heard and he was the one bright light from last season he was outstanding to say I'm shocked is and understatement.

Paully D · 17-03-2015 1:37pm

JCTO wrote: »

49ers not having a great off season and this is a weird one. Borland is a player with tremendous talent and only 24 and now decides to retire

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000479460/article/san-francisco-49ers-chris-borland-retiring-from-nfl

Disappointing to see him walk away but I really can't blame him.

San Francisco 49ers linebacker Chris Borland told ESPN's Outside The Lines on Monday that he is retiring from the NFL due to concerns about the long-term health effects of head trauma. The 49ers later announced the retirement in a statement.

Borland, a standout rookie linebacker who led the team in tackles in 2014, said he notified the Niners of his decision on Friday. Monday's announcement comes a week after linebacker Patrick Willis stunned the 49ers and the NFL by announcing his retirement after eight seasons.

"I just honestly want to do what's best for my health," said Borland, who met with prominent concussion researchers before making his decision. "From what I've researched and what I've experienced, I don't think it's worth the risk."

Borland, 24, said he has been diagnosed with two concussions in his life -- once while playing soccer in eighth grade and again while playing football during sophomore year of high school. He said he believed he may have suffered a third concussion during training camp, but played through it because of his concern about making the team as a third-round pick out of Wisconsin.

"I just thought to myself, 'What am I doing? Is this how I'm going to live my adult life, banging my head, especially with what I've learned and knew about the dangers?'"

Tippex · 17-03-2015 1:48pm

Totally can't blame him it takes a lot for someone that has worked all those years to give up their dream after just one season.

Knex* · 17-03-2015 1:48pm

Wonder how many more will begin to walk away from the game early

Itssoeasy · 17-03-2015 2:50pm

Knex. wrote: »

Wonder how many more will begin to walk away from the game early

Ya see this is it knex. While we are all saying that we can't blame him for walking away from the game, but how many Young players who might be of the same mind set might follow now that someone has taken this step ?

I mean american football isn't a contact sport it's a collision sport as someone once said.

Tippex · 17-03-2015 3:30pm

I think it is certainly going to make guys think about it. It is going to give the powers that be in the NFL a problem.

JaMarcusHustle · 17-03-2015 6:00pm

I'd love to say I'd do the same thing, but given the immediate opportunity in front of them to make millions versus something that may happen to you down the line that you're not yet feeling the effects of, it's such a brave and difficult decision. I honestly don't know if I'd have the balls to make the same choice.

raze_them_all_ · 18-03-2015 9:45am

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

I'd love to say I'd do the same thing, but given the immediate opportunity in front of them to make millions versus something that may happen to you down the line that you're not yet feeling the effects of, it's such a brave and difficult decision. I honestly don't know if I'd have the balls to make the same choice.

I agree. Tbh i dont think it'll catch on too many people see it as a better life/a way out/way to get a free ride for college/way to look after their families. If anything it'll end up with a fighters mentality. Aye **** it some might be damaged in life but I will be fine

Paully D · 18-03-2015 7:42pm

Baltimore aren't playing around. Bernard Pierce released after being done for DUI at 2am this morning. Much easier decision when it's someone who is fairly crap I suppose.

Neil3030 · 18-03-2015 8:42pm

TBH, I'd say he is still in a pretty rare category of NFL pros, at least for now. You simply can't get to any half decent level of a football career while having any real insight into your mortality or destructibility. He is rare too in how he is making the decision on the back of the general risk factor, and not in direct response to a serious injury, or string of minor to moderate injuries (not withstanding his 3 previous concussions, but I'd say 3 is quite low over the lifetime of an NFL pro).

mikemac1 · 18-03-2015 8:57pm

Paully D wrote: »

Baltimore aren't playing around. Bernard Pierce released after being done for DUI at 2am this morning. Much easier decision when it's someone who is fairly crap I suppose.

He was the starter on the depth chart week 1 last season. By mid season he was 3rd string

No loss, Baltimore will be drafting a back mid rounds anyway

Paully D · 18-03-2015 10:01pm

Sounds like Mr. Pierce knew what was coming as soon as he got arrested last night. From the police report:

nothrowaway · 18-03-2015 10:38pm

Paully D wrote: »

Not NFL I know, but 30 for 30's 'The U Part 2' is a great watch:

Look at how good that 2001 Hurricanes roster was, pretty crazy when you look at the draftees. 38 of the whole roster drafted, with 17 first round picks. Madness!

Reggie Wayne went in the first the year before too.

helimachoptor · 18-03-2015 10:46pm

Proposed Rule Changes

Here's what you need to know about all the rules that will be discussed and potentially voted on by the owners next week:

1. The first proposal asks for coaches to call a timeout instead of throwing the beloved red flag to challenge a call. Teams would earn the timeout back if the challenge is upheld.

- Seems a bit stupid.. basically the same thing

2. The Detroit Lions submitted a proposal that would make all penalties reviewable. We don't expect this to be passed.

- Nope. not for this

3. A less-aggressive proposal by the Tennessee Titans calls for all personal foul penalties to be reviewable through a coach's challenge. The Redskins made a similar proposal without asking for reviews to be tied to a challenge.

- Agree with this, challenge it yes but lose your ability to challenge if you **** up. 1 and 3 tied together

4. The Patriots were again active with suggested rule changes: New England proposed a tweak that would eliminate the ban on challenges in the final two minutes of the half and overtime.

- Dont agree with this

5. The Patriots also proposed fixed cameras on sidelines, end lines and goal lines to supplement those provided by broadcast networks. This is something Gregg Rosenthal and Around The NFL have been lobbying for since way back.

- Seems sensible

6. Bill Belichick wasn't done there. New England also proposed to push back PATs to the 15-yard line, with two-point tries staying at the 2-yard line. The Pats aren't giving up this request.

- Agree

7. The Colts are asking for the league to consider an intriguing new scoring system in the preseason. Their proposal calls for a "bonus field goal" that would allow teams to kick an extra point following a successful two-point try. The trick? The tacked-on PAT would come from 50 yards out. This feels like a long shot.

- all for this :cool:
8. The Chicago Bears presented a rule change that would award possession to both teams in overtime.

- Agree with this.

9. One bylaw proposal calls to eliminate the summertime roster cut down from 90 to 75 players. Instead, teams would be asked to chop their squads from 90 to 53 players.

- on the fence on this tbh

10. We learned during the question-and-answer portion of the call that the NFL will discuss the language in the rules of what constitutes a catch, but no specific proposal is on the table to overhaul that murky topic.

- one of those things that no matter what the rules say its so open to interpretation

adrian522 · 18-03-2015 10:53pm

Challenge of DPI calls should be brought in. I wouldn't be against the college system of limiting them to 15 yards either.

Knex* · 18-03-2015 10:56pm

Don't like 1, 2, 7 and 9.

The rest, sure.

eagle eye · 18-03-2015 11:02pm

Why on earth would anybody be against allowing challenges in the last two minutes and overtime? It seems like something that should happen imo.

Also challeging a PI call is a good thing.

Now put both of these together. You get an awful PI call against you with less than two minutes remaining. You challenge it and its overturned and a fair result to the game occurs.

18-03-2015 11:09pm

number 7 sounds very cool id be curious to see if it would lower or raise a kickers profile it may due to it being harder to find a guy that can hit it from 50 but on the other hand it could end up reducing the number of pats.

adrian522 wrote: »

Challenge of DPI calls should be brought in. I wouldn't be against the college system of limiting them to 15 yards either.

id like this in theory but i can't ever see it coming in as it could add hours onto games

adrian522 · 18-03-2015 11:11pm

How would it add hours onto games?

18-03-2015 11:13pm

adrian522 wrote: »

How would it add hours onto games?

I'm exaggerating with hours but constant challenges could be a disaster theres dpi on pretty much every play these days constant challenges would get tedious

adrian522 · 18-03-2015 11:15pm

You only get 3 challenges anyway though(only 2 if one of the first 2 fails) so you can't challenge every play.

Paully D · 18-03-2015 11:17pm

nothrowaway wrote: »

Reggie Wayne went in the first the year before too.

Yup, and Santana Moss too. They were just a factory of talent those few years. It was insane.

18-03-2015 11:18pm

adrian522 wrote: »

You only get 3 challenges anyway though(only 2 if one of the first 2 fails) so you can't challenge every play.

only if they fail though

BizzyC · 19-03-2015 9:16am

Rule No.7 sounds ridiculous, you dont want to be watching PAT's for 5 minutes which is what will happen with that rule.

Neil3030 · 19-03-2015 4:07pm

Seahawks owner lobbying that all plays from the 1 yard line must be run. :pac:

HigginsJ · 19-03-2015 8:50pm

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2400487-devon-still-provides-encouraging-news-regarding-health-of-daughter-leah

File this one under awesome

Realt Dearg Sec · 20-03-2015 12:51am

HigginsJ wrote: »

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2400487-devon-still-provides-encouraging-news-regarding-health-of-daughter-leah

File this one under awesome

Ah jaysus

20-03-2015 10:22pm

apparently chuck "concrete charlie" bednarik is expected to pass away in the next day or two awesome player arguably the best eagle of all time and one of he biggest hitters in nfl history

Pyjamarama · 21-03-2015 7:46pm

Clementine Scary String wrote: »

apparently chuck "concrete charlie" bednarik is expected to pass away in the next day or two awesome player arguably the best eagle of all time and one of he biggest hitters in nfl history

Yeah he's passed away. Obv only really know much about him by word of mouth but a Birds legend.

22-03-2015 12:52am

Pyjamarama wrote: »

Yeah he's passed away. Obv only really know much about him by word of mouth but a Birds legend.

i think were all in that boat to be fair but i know he was a tough tough dude heres one of the more famous hits in nfl history

he also felt very strongly that players should still play two ways (he was a very very good centre as well as a hall of fame linebacker)

heres a good vid for anyone that does not know who he is

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-countdowns/09000d5d81eee1c5/Top-100-Chuck-Bednarik

Paully D · 22-03-2015 10:29pm

No posts at all today about the Veteran Combine? I thought this would have generated some interest. :eek:

https://twitter.com/MarcSesslerNFL/status/579744185789460480

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/579730526640082944

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