Wetherspoons In Cork

Deco99 wrote: »

Sober Lane has done some job in jumping on bandwagon and giving itself a boost. Great place to watch a match whilst listening to blaring music instead of commentary during Spain Holland in the world cup. Great. Never dawned the doors since. Sacrilege.

Liverpool and united on the box in there the last time I was there couldn't enjoy it with that pat fitz playing in the corner.

Just back from London and had a few pints in wether spoons in Greenwich last nite, a mixed crowd of the all day drinkers students office workers my group a few cadets from the naval college all having a few drinks bite to eat minding their own business. Had a few guest ales and a round of three pints was £5.97. Will post up a pdf of the price list tomorrow.

firestarter51 wrote: »

i have posted a link to the irish prices on here already, we wont be getting uk prices sadly but still good prices for a city bar


http://www.jdwetherspoon.ie/pdf/irish_menu.pdf

I think I'll make that price list my new screen saver

Here's the new one for The Three Tun Tavern, http://www.jdwetherspoon.ie/pdf/ThreeTunTavernDec14.pdf

Not a single ****e beer on it, the Heineken and Bud drinks wont be pleased, except me, a decent "craft" beer for not €6 a pint I'm all over that:D

You can get a burger and glass of wine for €8.95, if you took a €3.95 glass of wine you are getting the burger for just €5:eek:

I doubt the food will be as good as sober lane but that is serious value, that's McDonalds prices.

Tom Creans Lager...thats a nice beer, have it in Kerry whenever Im there
Also a nice price

bladebrew wrote: »

It's amazing some of the prices, like howling gale ale, it's €2.45 (330ml) it costs €2 in Dunnes and €2.40 in Tesco! So it's at supermarket off licence prices which is incredible,

It's a cork beer aswell! Pubs in the city have it on Tap but it's well over €5 a pint,

What places sell Howling Gale for well over a fiver? Most I've ever paid was a fiver, never more than it.

Agreed about the great value for the bottles in Wetherspoon, though. Pubs charge a ridiculous amount for 33cl bottles. I can never understand how many of them justify selling them for more than the draught pints, when you're getting nearly half the beer.

Paz-CCFC wrote: »

What places sell Howling Gale for well over a fiver? Most I've ever paid was a fiver, never more than it.

Agreed about the great value for the bottles in Wetherspoon, though. Pubs charge a ridiculous amount for 33cl bottles. I can never understand how many of them justify selling them for more than the draught pints, when you're getting nearly half the beer.

Its simple the pubs are charged more to bring in bottles than kegs, if you want to ask why again you're goin to the brewers/distillers.

the beer revolu wrote: »

Pubs charge over the odds for long-necks because enough people are willing to pay over the odds for them. It really is that simple.

It looks cooler :rolleyes:

There is a lot of talk about atmosphere in pubs and how some have great atmosphere and others are devoid of it.
To my mind, atmosphere is created by those around you.

So if I am surrounded by 5 friends and we are having a laugh and joke then that is good enough atmosphere for me.
If we were in Sober Lane and we had a round of 6 pints we would be looking at €31 a call (@ €5.20 a pint). The same round would cost €17 in JDW (@ €2.90 a pint)

The arrival of JDW might also cool the arrogance of some of the “traditional Irish Pubs” in Cork…
And when I say arrogance I mean door staff who refuse entry because you might be wearing runners or simply because your face or age demographic doesn’t fit the “traditional Irish pub”

Case in point…. Sitting in the Bodega 3 days before Christmas with two friends who had returned from abroad, one Canada the other London for the festivities and I hadn’t seen them if over 7 years. We decided to head to Soho and because I needed to use the bathroom I said I’d follow them.
Long story short, doorman at Soho politely tells me I have too much alcohol on board (I had two pints in the Bodega). Having a phone with a rubbish battery I was unable to text friends inside so night spoiled by doorman.
Up to then they were more than happy to accept my money when I would go in there at lunch times for a bite to eat.

City Centre pubs in Cork are arrogant (not all mind) with their over the top prices and selective door policy.

Welcome to Cork JDW. I’m delighted you are already making waves before your arrival!!

Reputable Rog wrote: »

Space ? Kegs generally take up less room.

The space is a good point for smaller pubs not buying in big stocks (say, a few keg's equivalent), but you'd see pubs with huge fridge space (and, I'd imagine stock space out the back) that sell them at €5+ when the pint is €4.50ish. With kegs, you have to spend on the CO2 cylinders, as well, so they've more cost associated with them.

Deco99 wrote: »

Its simple the pubs are charged more to bring in bottles than kegs, if you want to ask why again you're goin to the brewers/distillers.

Why don't the pubs ask why? If they're feeling ripped off (and I agree they generally are), then they should do something about it. Negotiate down, negotiate in groups, get some help off the LVA/VFI or else stock from the supermarket if it's cheaper there than the brewery.

gimmick wrote: »

Or a person prefers the taste of the drink out of them

Or a person is watching what they are drinking so as not to get too drunk/cannot handle too much alcohol

If it's the same drink, then it's really not going to taste much different from a bottle. I don't see why half pints aren't more popular here. I know some pubs disincentivise people from buying them by charging more than half the price of a full pint, but you'd still be talking better value than the bottles.

Paz-CCFC wrote: »

The space is a good point for smaller pubs not buying in big stocks (say, a few keg's equivalent), but you'd see pubs with huge fridge space (and, I'd imagine stock space out the back) that sell them at €5+ when the pint is €4.50ish. With kegs, you have to spend on the CO2 cylinders, as well, so they've more cost associated with them.



Why don't the pubs ask why? If they're feeling ripped off (and I agree they generally are), then they should do something about it. Negotiate down, negotiate in groups, get some help off the LVA/VFI or else stock from the supermarket if it's cheaper there than the brewery.



If it's the same drink, then it's really not going to taste much different from a bottle. I don't see why half pints aren't more popular here. I know some pubs disincentivise people from buying them by charging more than half the price of a full pint, but you'd still be talking better value than the bottles.

1. Even with the CO2 draught is way cheaper than bottles, more profit out of pints, i could find out at weekend exactly what the costs are.

2. The VFI are pretty useless, instead of negotiating with Sky it recommended members to not get it. Maybe Wetherspoons will help on that front.

3. Do you drink much, bottles and draught are way different. Even two different taps of the same draught can be different. Any time i go into a pub i take a look at what everyone at the counter is drinking before ordering.

hoodwinked wrote: »

sometimes taps which are not used often give beers an awful taste (or make you sick), so in certain places its best to go for bottles unless you were sure pints were pulled recently on that tap.

Kegs keep beer fresh for a good while. The keg and the lines are sealed and under pressure from CO2. Having beer sitting in the lines is the same as having it sit in the kegs. It's the same liquid and the same CO2 gas.

Deco99 wrote: »

1. Even with the CO2 draught is way cheaper than bottles, more profit out of pints, i could find out at weekend exactly what the costs are.

2. The VFI are pretty useless, instead of negotiating with Sky it recommended members to not get it. Maybe Wetherspoons will help on that front.

3. Do you drink much, bottles and draught are way different. Even two different taps of the same draught can be different. Any time i go into a pub i take a look at what everyone at the counter is drinking before ordering.

1. According to the Sunday Business Post a few years ago, €130 for a 50L keg of Guinness. I can't imagine it's gotten cheaper in the interim. So, €2.60 a litre. That's the equivalent of 85c a bottle. Plenty of supermarkets and shops are able to bulk sell at that price and turn a profit. If a pub is paying more than the shops are able to sell at, then they're getting ripped off. And if they can get it cheaper in the shops, why not do that? (Indeed, some pubs do buy the multi-packs and re-sell them.)

2. Yet pubs waste their money joining. The VFI and LVA represent the majority of pubs in this country. You'd think a union that size would be able to command a bit of buying power.

3. Apart from varying carbonation and temperature, why would there be a huge different between bottled, kegged and cask beer? If I were to brew a batch and put half of it into a keg and the other half into bottles, what would make it taste very differently?

Deco99 wrote: »

1. Alot of the discount selling in shops is not at a profit, its called a loss leader where you sell cheaper than you buy to bring in the crowd.
An item for someone who may know better, are pubs allowed stock from supermarkets? VAT purposes, trading regulations? I think there is a catch somewhere.

2. Its a union not a cartel.

3. Seriously, do you drink beer much? Most people would agree that there is a difference between bottles and pints. It may not be quantifiable but start a poll on here and I would be very confident that there is a similar opinion.

1. That loss leader/below cost selling is a line frequently thrown out, but never backed up (including in the government's report into minimum pricing). Places like Centra sell 33cl bottles at 20 for €15. That's a convenience shop, not the kind of place where people would do their weekly grocery shopping. I can't see how they'd survive selling alcohol below cost.

If you have a licence to sell it and you purchase it lawfully, there's no tax or trading laws to stop you from buying from a supermarket and re-selling.

2. Ha, well many would disagree about the cartel thing, considering their constant push for minimum pricing/trying to keep places like JDW from entering the Irish market.

3. I would agree with you, I think many would swear about it being better from one or the other. But then again, many swear that a two part pour remarkably changes the taste of a stout. Do a blind test on either, and I'd wager that most would find both to be the same.

What's the logic behind the huge difference in taste between bottle and keg, for a beer that's fermented in the same container?

Deco99 wrote: »

There is a skill in pouring a pint of beer, a method to maintaining lines for draught, alot more variables than the bottle out of the fridge. There is a difference between bottles and draight. Draight cider is alot more gassy than bottles in my local. Plus alot of bottles are not available on draught. Would you drink a pint of coors light? i sure wouldnt.

Pouring it will affect head retention and carbonation, yeah. But not hugely affect the taste. If a pub doesn't have clean lines, then I wouldn't be going there at all, whether I'm intending to buy draught or bottled. Likewise, you could have spoiled bottles from the sunlight, but, again, you'd expect any decent bar/brewery to have proper storage methods to prevent this.

Draught beer will hav varying carbonation, because the barman sets the level (though, I'd imagine the Diageo and Heineken "quality control" teams try to maintain a standardised level for their brands), whereas the bottles will be sealed throughout. But I wouldn't see how that would hugely change the taste.

I agree with you about the bottles not being available on tap. Eg, you can't expect the Bierhaus' 100+ bottle selection all to be on tap. I was referring to common brands where that are widely available on tap and bottle.


By the way, in answer to your earlier question, they currently have two sites in Cork. The site of the old Newport Café on Paul Street and Douglas. They've apparently also taken out a lease on a place by Dennehy's Cross. No official date set by them yet. They bought the one in town a year and a bit ago, but they were held up on renovation because of planning issues. I'd say it won't be opening before March. For the two in Dublin, they started a countdown on their website about two months in advance.

Paz-CCFC wrote: »

Pouring it will affect head retention and carbonation, yeah. But not hugely affect the taste. If a pub doesn't have clean lines, then I wouldn't be going there at all, whether I'm intending to buy draught or bottled. Likewise, you could have spoiled bottles from the sunlight, but, again, you'd expect any decent bar/brewery to have proper storage methods to prevent this.

Draught beer will hav varying carbonation, because the barman sets the level (though, I'd imagine the Diageo and Heineken "quality control" teams try to maintain a standardised level for their brands), whereas the bottles will be sealed throughout. But I wouldn't see how that would hugely change the taste.

I agree with you about the bottles not being available on tap. Eg, you can't expect the Bierhaus' 100+ bottle selection all to be on tap. I was referring to common brands where that are widely available on tap and bottle.


By the way, in answer to your earlier question, they currently have two sites in Cork. The site of the old Newport Café on Paul Street and Douglas. They've apparently also taken out a lease on a place by Dennehy's Cross. No official date set by them yet. They bought the one in town a year and a bit ago, but they were held up on renovation because of planning issues. I'd say it won't be opening before March. For the two in Dublin, they started a countdown on their website about two months in advance.

Don't forget the site in Douglas the prince of Wales

VFI LVFI are just mouth pieces. Publicans in practice rarely work together each trying to out do the other out of a half penny. \drinking habits have changed most publicans still don't get this.

CHealy wrote: »

How very judgmental of you. So anyone that wants to not be ripped off for a pint is now some sort of thug?

I think its your type that Wetherspoons should be wary about. Get down from the top of your nose.

+1

Having been to the Wetherspoons in both Dun Laoghaire and Blackrock (Co. Dublin) they are both well run and by no means draw an ugly / unsavoury crowd.

Like any bar they have bouncers there and anyone unruly is thrown out, that being said I have been there plenty of times and have yet to see any trouble (and that is the honest truth).

Centra are supplied by musgraves so they would have no problem selling beer below cost.

I have never seen hard evidence that any supermarket sells beer below cost.

When they open in cork I think we should have a boardies nite out!

corkonion wrote: »

I find it strange that wetherspoons purchased the Newport cafe in late 2013 and still have not received final planning permission, while Benny McCabe seemed to be able to open his new pub Rising Sons in a matter of weeks. Surely it cannot be normal practice for planning to take so long, at this rate I will be dead and buried before anyone gets a wetherspoons pint in Cork.

Rising Sons was known about for a long time in craft beer circles before it opened. It used to be known as 7 Windows and only changed it's name a few months before opening. The location of the bar was know for at least a year and a bit before work actually started on the place.

pwurple wrote: »

Crikey, the last thing you want to compare it to is the low cost supermarket effect. The veg suppliers being run into the ground. "Pay to stay" agreements with suppliers completely obliterating small suppliers.

Lidl and Aldi are both known to be far better to deal with compared to the other multiples from a supplier's point of view.

gimmick wrote: »

Had an hour to kill in town Saturday so went into Soho. €5.70 for a Paulaner at 1pm. I should have known better but bloody hell.

Sorry but that's robbery. Places like this shouldn't be supported

i see on the wetherspoons twitter that beamish and fosters are back on the menu at €2.50 a pint. Roll on opening in the city and douglas!

Walked past Paul St. yesterday and its still all boarded up, looks like nothing has been done to it. Whats the plan for that site does anyone know? Be this time next year it'll be ready by the looks of it.