Son Of General Retro Discussion

Steve X2 · 20-12-2011 7:47pm

Well my retro related iPad/iPhone app got rejected by Apple so it wont be in the app store for xmas

No surprise really, it's an awful mess at the moment, don't know why I even submitted it.

Note to self, must code better after xmas or get someone who will do it for me.

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rubadub · 20-12-2011 8:38pm

oh dear...

Andrew76 · 20-12-2011 9:42pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Went to preorder a Retrode 2 on StoneageGamer and after shipping it comes to $99! I really want one, but that's €75. Which seems a bit much for what it is.

As a comparison, the Snes handheld is for preorder too and it's cheaper.

Bah, god damn it, I wish I didn't see that Snes handheld on the site. Want one too now.

After postage, the two of them come to €150.

Seems like a lot for a home made device which I'm only going to use to dump some games and a (fancy) clone.

But then at the same time, both do look like really great devices.

I r conflicted.

Maybe I'm missing the point but I can't see why someone would buy that retrode thing, not at that price anyway. If you wanted to play Snes or MD games on a pc/laptop then why not just stick with an emulator and some sort of pad - why bother with the extra hassle of hooking up another device and digging out carts to do the same thing? Or just buy the proper consoles and use as they were intended. Is there a need to dump roms if you can download them? The only benefit I can see that you can backup old save games you might still have but is anyone that bothered about ancient saves?

The Supaboy is a bit more promising but I'd want to wait and see what sort of reviews the device gets, whether the build quality is up to scratch after prolonged use. Would be sweet to have a Snes equivalent of the Nomad though, once it's a quality product.

o1s1n · 20-12-2011 10:12pm

Steve SI wrote: »

Well my retro related iPad/iPhone app got rejected by Apple so it wont be in the app store for xmas

No surprise really, it's an awful mess at the moment, don't know why I even submitted it.

Note to self, must code better after xmas or get someone who will do it for me.

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Awh no! What kind of app was it as a matter of interest?

Andrew76 wrote: »

Maybe I'm missing the point but I can't see why someone would buy that retrode thing, not at that price anyway. If you wanted to play Snes or MD games on a pc/laptop then why not just stick with an emulator and some sort of pad - why bother with the extra hassle of hooking up another device and digging out carts to do the same thing? Or just buy the proper consoles and use as they were intended. Is there a need to dump roms if you can download them? The only benefit I can see that you can backup old save games you might still have but is anyone that bothered about ancient saves?

The Supaboy is a bit more promising but I'd want to wait and see what sort of reviews the device gets, whether the build quality is up to scratch after prolonged use. Would be sweet to have a Snes equivalent of the Nomad though, once it's a quality product.

Ah, the ONLY reason I want a Retrode is for dumping betas/protos. I can dump Snes games, but have no way of dumping Megadrive ones. Been trying to get a Magic Drive for the Megadrive now for quite some time, but they're super rare.

I'd like to go down that proto road a bit further, but am reluctant to until I can back things up!

I've looked at some reviews of Supaboy prototypes, and it seems to be pretty well made. You're right about waiting though.

I think one of the first things I'd have to do with that is open it up and replace the buttons with PAL/Jap coloured ones. The purple just looks wrong!

Andrew76 · 20-12-2011 10:24pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Ah, the ONLY reason I want a Retrode is for dumping betas/protos. I can dump Snes games, but have no way of dumping Megadrive ones. Been trying to get a Magic Drive for the Megadrive now for quite some time, but they're super rare.

Ah yes good point, you have a Sonic proto don't you.

o1s1n wrote: »

I've looked at some reviews of Supaboy prototypes, and it seems to be pretty well made. You're right about waiting though.

I think one of the first things I'd have to do with that is open it up and replace the buttons with PAL/Jap coloured ones. The purple just looks wrong!

Lol at the colours. You're not a fan of the square edges on the US carts either I remember.

For anyone that bought that Humble Bundle 4, the gifts keep coming. First it was all the soundtracks and now some more free games: VVVVVV, Crayon Physics Deluxe, Cogs, And Yet It Moves and Hammerfight. Pretty nice that.

o1s1n · 20-12-2011 10:34pm

Andrew76 wrote: »

Ah yes good point, you have a Sonic proto don't you.

The Sonic cart seems to be the same as dumped ones. I'm more interested in dumping the Daze Before Christmas and Zero Tolerance carts. The Zero Tolerance especially seeing as it's completely undumped, radically different to the final version and probably of historical importance seeing as it's one of the first proper FPS console games.

Andrew76 wrote: »

Lol at the colours. You're not a fan of the square edges on the US carts either I remember. .

Heh, the square NTSC carts are one thing, but the colours of the Snes pad buttons are VERY important to me. I don't know why. They just are. There's something about them that sums up the console for me. Odd comment, I know. But when I see an American pad it just doesn't look right.

Andrew76 wrote: »

For anyone that bought that Humble Bundle 4, the gifts keep coming. First it was all the soundtracks and now some more free games: VVVVVV, Crayon Physics Deluxe, Cogs, And Yet It Moves and Hammerfight. Pretty nice that.

That's quite a deal. I still haven't given VVVVVV a go yet, it's been on my to play list for ages.

Have you played Voxatron at all yet?

Steve X2 · 20-12-2011 10:53pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Awh no! What kind of app was it as a matter of interest?

Just kind of a retro hardware reference thing. More than what you would find on wikipedia with some insane levels of detail on some things. They didn't like how I was linking to external media and that's the reason for it not getting approved, or so they say. The app is 89MB in size the way it is with media linking. If I was to include all the media it would be really huge.

It's a free app, but might be 79c now depending on how much work I have to put into it to get it to the level I'm happy with and apple are ok with.

I'm glad they didn't approve it, it was a mess

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Atavan-Halen · 20-12-2011 10:55pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Heh, the square NTSC carts are one thing, but the colours of the Snes pad buttons are VERY important to me. I don't know why. They just are. There's something about them that sums up the console for me. Odd comment, I know. But when I see an American pad it just doesn't look right.

Actually got a US SNES controller in the post today. They do look a bit dull alright.

Pyongyang · 20-12-2011 10:58pm

o1s1n wrote: »

preorder

You said the magic word!

I finally pre-ordered Catherine err... Stray Wolves In A Pizza Edition (or whatever the feck it's called) today.

Excitement, She Wrote!

Andrew76 · 20-12-2011 11:03pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Have you played Voxatron at all yet?

No actually, I remember it being mentioned a while back then again the other day so went and had a look at some videos of it. Looks good but is it the same clear all enemies from a room mechanic all the time? Maybe the video I watched didn't do it justice. Is there user levels you can download too?
Also, The Humble Bundle and Steam Sale prices have turned me into a scrooge as I thought $15 was a bit much.

:pac: I suppose that's barely a tenner when you think about it.

Myrddin · 20-12-2011 11:04pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Heh, the square NTSC carts are one thing, but the colours of the Snes pad buttons are VERY important to me. I don't know why. They just are. There's something about them that sums up the console for me. Odd comment, I know. But when I see an American pad it just doesn't look right

I totally get that. When I look at a snes pad it just reeks of Super Mario World at xmas time, no idea why, but that pad & it's coloured buttons made some bizarre connection in my head

Pyongyang · 20-12-2011 11:13pm

Well worth $15 for the bundle Andrew, especially as they added 5 more things to the bundle tonight!

Plus a few bob goes to charity, which is nice.

Voxatron is brilliant. I haven't played Phibsborough yet though. But I have downloaded it along with the rest of Bundle 4!

Andrew76 · 20-12-2011 11:20pm

Pyongyang wrote: »

Well worth $15 for the bundle Andrew, especially as they added 5 more things to the bundle tonight!

Plus a few bob goes to charity, which is nice.

Voxatron is brilliant. I haven't played Phibsborough yet though. But I have downloaded it along with the rest of Bundle 4!

No it's Voxatron that's $15 not the bundle, I have HB4 and yep it's well worth it.

johnny_ultimate · 20-12-2011 11:21pm

I bought Duke Nukem Forever because it was a fiver.

I feel like a crack whore, but some sick part of my brain insists on subjecting itself to it.

Such is the fiendishness of Steam sales, and the fickleness of morality.

Jack burton · 20-12-2011 11:22pm

I've been avoiding opening up steam knowing theres a sale on. But I had to take a look and now I realised I have 17 yo-yos in my paypal. So I really need to make the right choices here. That humble bundle 4 does look to be the buisness though. never played bit trip runner or VVVVVV

Myrddin · 20-12-2011 11:22pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I bought Duke Nukem Forever because it was a fiver.

I feel like a crack whore, but some sick part of my brain insists on subjecting itself to it.

Such is the fiendishness of Steam sales, and the fickleness of morality.

Johnny Ultimate, playing a Western game, that's made to appeal to the masses? Alright, who are you & what have you done with our Johnny?!

Pyongyang · 20-12-2011 11:23pm

Andrew76 wrote: »

No it's Voxatron that's $15 not the bundle, I have HB4 and yep it's well worth it.

It is? Oh wait, my apologies, I bought it as part of a different bundle. Though HIB4 has just had 5 games from HIB3 added to it tonight. So yay that!

I reckon Voxatron is worth $15, especially if you love Llamatron, Robotron, Smash TV or Dick Tracy on the C64.

johnny_ultimate · 20-12-2011 11:27pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Johnny Ultimate, playing a Western game, that's made to appeal to the masses? Alright, who are you & what have you done with our Johnny?!

Retr0 fell victim to it as well.

Must be something in the air. I did think there was an unusual stench of mediocrity around the house.

Myrddin · 20-12-2011 11:28pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Retr0 fell victim to it as well.

Must be something in the air. I did think there was an unusual stench of mediocrity around the house.

At least he has an excuse, he was checking to see if something had aged well. Strangely enough it hadn't

johnny_ultimate · 20-12-2011 11:30pm

There's only so many arthouse / foreign movies, bullet hell games and pigeon dating simulators one can take.

Oh wait: no there isn't.

Yeah, you're right. No excuse.

Myrddin · 20-12-2011 11:31pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

There's only so many arthouse / foreign movies, bullet hell games and pigeon dating simulators one can take.

Oh wait: no there isn't.

Yeah, you're right. No excuse.

Not when it comes to Duke Nukem, he's the anti-hipster

Jack burton · 20-12-2011 11:34pm

Just got the humble bundle, so much goodness, but now I have to go to bed to be in work for half 7 in the morning, oh noes!

johnny_ultimate · 20-12-2011 11:40pm

Worth buying the bundle just for this on MP3 or lossless audio!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dclghhnW4oU

All those games are a nice extra, I guess.

Jack burton · 20-12-2011 11:45pm

Yeah Have loads of the soundtrack on download now aswell. Had a quick go of bit trip runner, its so good.

Cant wait to play VVVVVV

CiDeRmAn · 21-12-2011 12:29am

EnterNow wrote: »

At least he has an excuse, he was checking to see if something had aged well. Strangely enough it hadn't

Hey!
A sucky FPS and I don't own it, but the two self confessed gaming auteurs do!
Awesome!

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy · 21-12-2011 12:29am

I Got My Fashion Sense from Video Games (And You Can, Too!)

Steve X2 · 21-12-2011 1:03am

Anyone know if you can change the language on the Jap PS VITA to english and if the games will support english or is it jap all the way?

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Retr0gamer · 21-12-2011 1:24am

Steve SI wrote: »

Anyone know if you can change the language on the Jap PS VITA to english and if the games will support english or is it jap all the way?

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Translation: I have a PS Vita, ner ner na ner na!

Steve X2 · 21-12-2011 1:33am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Translation: I have a PS Vita, ner ner na ner na!

Nope, but I'm thinking about it.
It's probably not worth it if its stuck in Japanese all the time and all the games are jap.

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johnny_ultimate · 21-12-2011 1:34am

Kotaku had a video of the Vita setup and you seemed to be able to pick from all languages.

Can't see any major benefit in picking it up early except for bragging rights

Atavan-Halen · 21-12-2011 2:02am

If it's anything like the psp then you can change the system language to English but the games and text in games will be in Japanese.

DinoRex · 21-12-2011 3:38am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_TgM0pCDvI

johnny_ultimate · 21-12-2011 4:21am

Whoever was paid to write Duke Nukem Forever should be ashamed of themselves :pac:

The line 'I've got balls of fail' isn't funny the first time you miss the bumpers in pinball. It sure as hell isn't funny the tenth time.

Steve X2 · 21-12-2011 5:39am

8 bit Ninja's Unboxing of the Samsung Galaxy Nexus.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?src_vid=v2_pQRVwE3s&annotation_id=annotation_589909&user=ninjaunboxing3&feature=iv

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Pyongyang · 21-12-2011 10:13am

The Vita is region free and by 2/12 will likely have the bugs (or most of them) ironed out, perhaps be 'broken' and will most likely have cheaper third party memory cards available for it by the European launch. Plus a touted 33 games will be available at launch for the EU and USA.

Personally I'd wait until then and get your Vita in February.

DinoRex · 21-12-2011 10:53am

Have you guys seen this? It's by the guy who made VVVVVV.

Oíche Mhaith:

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/585928

o1s1n · 21-12-2011 10:58am

Oíche Mhaith (pronouced "Ee-ha why") is a short game by Increpare and I.

'Ee-ha' is correct, but Mhaith being pronounced 'why'? That's not even remotely close.

CiDeRmAn · 21-12-2011 10:59am

Pyongyang wrote: »

The Vita is region free and by 2/12 will likely have the bugs (or most of them) ironed out, perhaps be 'broken' and will most likely have cheaper third party memory cards available for it by the European launch. Plus a touted 33 games will be available at launch for the EU and USA.

Personally I'd wait until then and get your Vita in February.

There's a whole heapin helpin of hopefulness right there!
More likely it'll arrive on European shores with the firmware locked up tighter than a fairytale princesses underwear drawer...
Plus we'll have a slow trickle of ports from the PS3 to boot....

I still want one though

CiDeRmAn · 21-12-2011 11:03am

o1s1n wrote: »

Oíche Mhaith (pronouced "Ee-ha why") is a short game by Increpare and I.

'Ee-ha' is correct, but Mhaith being pronounced 'why'? That's not even remotely close.

Actually, it depends on what part of the country your irish teacher comes from, it's no wonder we got colonised, we couldn't understand each others dialect!

Maith is sometimes pronouced with a moth/maa sound.
In other parts of this island it is, indeed, pronounced with a "my" or "why" type sound.
Ee-ha is pretty spot on though...

(my son goes to a gaelscoil and my wife is fluent, I have two languages, a la Korbin Dallas, english and bad english!)

DinoRex · 21-12-2011 11:10am

Yeah. Think it's some Donegal dialect.

Anyone know what part of Ireland Terry Cavanagh is from?

o1s1n · 21-12-2011 11:15am

Ah right! I always forget about those freaks from the north who can't pronounce our language properly.

Must be the Brittish influence :pac:

Andrew76 · 21-12-2011 11:19am

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

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(my son goes to a gaelscoil and my wife is fluent, I have to languages, a la Korbin Dallas, english and bad english!)

o1s1n wrote: »

Ah right! I always forget about those freaks from the north who can't pronounce our language properly.

Must be the Brittish influence :pac:

Where did you two chaps go to school?!

DinoRex · 21-12-2011 11:23am

The extra 'T' is for 'Time to leave!'

o1s1n · 21-12-2011 11:23am

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

(my son goes to a gaelscoil and my wife is fluent, I have to languages, a la Korbin Dallas, english and bad english!)

My girlfriend went to a gaelscoil and is now a primary school teacher. I've learned more Irish from her in the last few years than I did in all my years of school!

Andrew76 wrote: »

Where did you two chaps go to school?!

Indeed! Just to make the whole thing even more ****ed up, they throw Donegal Irish into some of the Leaving Cert tape work. Why???

'Here's a language you've been studying for over a decade. You may think you are just about able to grasp the basics and pass the exam - but think again! We are going to grade you on someone speaking it completely differently'

They may as well throw some Welsh in too.

Dr Bob · 21-12-2011 12:06pm

o1s1n wrote: »

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

(my son goes to a gaelscoil and my wife is fluent, I have to languages, a la Korbin Dallas, english and bad english!)

My girlfriend went to a gaelscoil and is now a primary school teacher. I've learned more Irish from her in the last few years than I did in all my years of school!

Andrew76 wrote: »

Where did you two chaps go to school?!

Indeed! Just to make the whole thing even more ****ed up, they throw Donegal Irish into some of the Leaving Cert tape work. Why???

'Here's a language you've been studying for over a decade. You may think you are just about able to grasp the basics and pass the exam - but think again! We are going to grade you on someone speaking it completely differently'

They may as well throw some Welsh in too.

ah its all feckin Klingon to me anyway

o1s1n · 21-12-2011 12:08pm

You, being a trekky, must speak fluent Klingon.

So on that assumption, I guess your Irish is pretty good? :pac:

Steve X2 · 21-12-2011 2:06pm

I think I'll give the Vita a miss and grab it when it comes out over in Euroland.

I'll go down and have a go of it in the morning in one of the stores here and see how she feels at least.

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Retr0gamer · 21-12-2011 2:35pm

DinoRex wrote: »

Have you guys seen this? It's by the guy who made VVVVVV.

Oíche Mhaith:

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/585928

That was great, thanks.

Retr0gamer · 21-12-2011 2:50pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Whoever was paid to write Duke Nukem Forever should be ashamed of themselves :pac:

The line 'I've got balls of fail' isn't funny the first time you miss the bumpers in pinball. It sure as hell isn't funny the tenth time.

I think I made the correct choice of not installing it and giving VVVVVV, Bit.Trip Runner and Eversion a play through instead.

BTW Eversion is only 1 euro on steam at the moment and unlikely to get cheaper and is well worth a play. It's not what it seems initially

Picked up Bloodrayne: the Betrayal from XBLA yesterday, only 600 points and for once the sale is open to silver users as well. Can't go wrong with Wayforward really.

o1s1n · 21-12-2011 3:01pm

I've been playing Duke Nukem Forever a bit myself.

It's a bad game, but with one saving grace. I don't know what it is, but it feels like a Duke Nukem 3D. Can't quite place it.

Such a wasted opportunity. No open enviornments = automatic fail.

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