HKC ALARM Installation

tangoman · 04-12-2012 11:32pm

Sorry if this sounds silly but do i need to do this with the keypad, and what do you mean by expanders?

altor · 04-12-2012 11:37pm

tangoman wrote: »

Sorry if this sounds silly but do i need to do this with the keypad, and what do you mean by expanders?

In the devices menu you can ID devices onto the system. If you need more zones on an 8/12 control panel then a 4 zone expander can be added to make it a 12 zone panel, this will be ided to the system in the devices menu. Same with keypads. If you use id sensors you need to set the zone hardware for the zone to point id, this will scan to see what sensors are on each zone by selecting the zone hardware then going into the devices menu to id then in as points to the system. If you had a loop of windows you could use point id sensors on this loop and give each sensor there own point and name. Point 50-59 point 60-69 and so on. 10 is the max per zone.

tangoman · 04-12-2012 11:48pm

I have a loop of windows with sensors on them,can i Id these or do they have to be Id senors to be Ided?

altor · 04-12-2012 11:50pm

tangoman wrote: »

I have a loop of windows with sensors on them,can i Id these or do they have to be Id senors to be Ided?

No, they need to be id sensors.

tangoman · 05-12-2012 12:01am

When i wired up the PIR, i wired it into zone 7, I was then misinformed as I was told to go into ADD & ID Devices go into Z7 and add device, then I was told to go into locate devices go to Z7 and locate. How do I undo this?

altor · 05-12-2012 12:05am

tangoman wrote: »

When i wired up the PIR, i wired it into zone 7, I was then misinformed as I was told to go into ADD & ID Devices go into Z7 and add device, then I was told to go into locate devices go to Z7 and locate. How do I undo this?

Zone hardware for zone 7 needs to be set up as non end of line if no resistors are used.
Dual end of line if they are.

tangoman · 05-12-2012 12:10am

Zone 7 is set up correctly as non end of line with no risistors. Does this mean i dont have to undo anything, and theres no harm done?

altor · 05-12-2012 12:12am

tangoman wrote: »

Zone 7 is set up correctly as non end of line with no risistors. Does this mean i dont have to undo anything, and theres no harm done?

Correct.

tangoman · 05-12-2012 12:16am

thanks again guys for all your help it is much appreciated.

altor · 05-12-2012 12:18am

tangoman wrote: »

thanks again guys for all your help it is much appreciated.

Your welcome, any other problems let us know..

tangoman · 05-12-2012 10:09am

I now wan to fit security cameras one to back one to front and one to side of house and maybe two inside and be able to watch on my phone and on internet and also record what cameras do I need which best and what else i need thanks

Thunderbird2 · 05-12-2012 8:54pm

Depends on how much you're willing to spend on the gear :-) have you a budget in mind ?

KoolKid · 05-12-2012 9:42pm

CCTV is a huge market . You need to decide on a budget like TB says & then do some shopping around. Remote access is pretty much standard now.
http://www.cctvdirect.co.uk/ or http://www.eyespycctv.ie/ would be a good place to start.

Thunderbird2 · 05-12-2012 10:00pm

I personally wouldn't recommend CCTV direct as they haven't bothered to reply to numerous emails regarding a faulty dome camera. Tried to ring them and got no answer .

tangoman · 06-12-2012 12:06am

Sorry, back to the alarm. I have now set up the PIR as an access zone in the zone options menu, It also says yes for inhibit, can you tell me if that is correct. I then wanted to take the PIR off the alarm for partguard A, so I said yes to Excl. from PG A, I then went into partguard options put in yes for exit time and also yes for access to Exit Entry. So now when I key in PG A into the keypad the system arms and the red LED flashes on the keypad, can anybody explain this?

Thunderbird2 · 06-12-2012 12:13am

The red flashing led indicates the system is armed you don't forget :-)a solid red light means alarm

tangoman · 06-12-2012 12:48am

If everything i done is correct including yes for inhibit? Should i also have yes or no for access to exit/entry and should i have yes or no for partguard digi alarm? and should i have indicate partguard yes or no? Sorry if all these questions sound silly..

KoolKid · 06-12-2012 8:27am

If the PiR is off for coastguard then no for access to EE
If you don't have monitoring PG digi doesn't matter .If you do set it to yes.
For standards indicate PG should be no. But leave it on if you want.

tangoman · 06-12-2012 10:34am

Sorry, what does coastguard mean?

KoolKid · 06-12-2012 4:41pm

tangoman wrote: »

Sorry, what does coastguard mean?

Partguard. ..fffing auto spell. .

altor · 07-12-2012 1:48am

tangoman wrote: »

Sorry, back to the alarm. I have now set up the PIR as an access zone in the zone options menu, It also says yes for inhibit, can you tell me if that is correct. I then wanted to take the PIR off the alarm for partguard A, so I said yes to Excl. from PG A, I then went into partguard options put in yes for exit time and also yes for access to Exit Entry. So now when I key in PG A into the keypad the system arms and the red LED flashes on the keypad, can anybody explain this?

If you go into the partguard options you can set the partguard to allow an exit time for the PIR. This will turn off the PIR but still allow partset of the system if you want to exit the premise with someone in bed. Indication of the alarm being set by means of the red flashing can also be turned off or on.

tangoman · 08-12-2012 2:41pm

Hi guys, thanks for getting back. I have another question, just wondering is there any way of adjusting the sensitivity on the sensors?

KoolKid · 08-12-2012 2:45pm

Yes its in the Zone menu. Gross & Pulse levels. 1 is most sensitive 9 is least & zero is off.

tangoman · 08-12-2012 3:04pm

Thanks, I am not near the alarm at the moment, so do I adjust the gross setting or pulse settings or both?

KoolKid · 08-12-2012 3:17pm

I wouldn't be adjusting them much. between 4 & 6 for both.
Gross is how hard a single force should be , Pulse is continuous lower level vibrations like cutting or trying to remove glass.
Generally 4 4 or 5 5 is the norm.

tangoman · 08-12-2012 4:19pm

Thanks for explaining that. I'm also wondering in the arming options menu would it be possible to explain what the following are for and what they should be set at? 1 - Final door set. 2 - Exit fault bell. 3 - Inhibit tamper. 4 - Forced arm. 5 - Display armed. 6 - Ream always. 7 - Ream count.

KoolKid · 08-12-2012 4:33pm

tangoman wrote: »

Thanks for explaining that. I'm also wondering in the arming options menu would it be possible to explain what the following are for and what they should be set at? 1 - Final door set. 2 - Exit fault bell. 3 - Inhibit tamper. 4 - Forced arm. 5 - Display armed. 6 - Ream always. 7 - Ream count.

1 If on system sets after the entry exit door closes.
2 If on an exit fault activates the bell
3 Allows tampers to be inhibited
4 Forced arm sets the system & inhibits anything that's open
5 The screen displays when the alarm is set.
6 After the bell cut out time the system always re arms after an activation
7 The number of times the system will rearm after an activation.

tangoman · 08-12-2012 5:55pm

Thanks again, just on 3 - Inhibit tamper. Can you explain why would you have this on?

KoolKid · 08-12-2012 6:00pm

If there is a tamper fault you can inhibit it so you can set the alarm.

tangoman · 08-12-2012 6:41pm

So for example under the heading alarm in zone types you then select inhibit in zone options, what does this mean?

KoolKid · 08-12-2012 6:46pm

It means that zone can be inhibited.

tangoman · 08-12-2012 6:57pm

Sorry if this comes across as a silly question but does that mean if inhibit is on and there is a problem with that zone the alarm will set?

KoolKid · 08-12-2012 7:00pm

No it just means the zone can be inhibited if need be.

tangoman · 08-12-2012 7:55pm

How would you inhibit a zone?

KoolKid · 08-12-2012 8:13pm

In the user menu providing your user code is also set up with that privilege.

tangoman · 09-12-2012 2:36pm

Thanks for your help yesterday KOOLKID. I forgot to ask can the sensitivity be adjusted on a pir and if so what would be the norm?

KoolKid · 09-12-2012 3:59pm

On a duel tec it's adjusted via a pot on the unit itself.

tangoman · 10-12-2012 1:25am

Thanks again guys

tangoman · 11-12-2012 8:37pm

Can i adjust the sensitivity on standard senors or do they have to be ID senors?

KoolKid · 11-12-2012 8:41pm

Standard sensors are adjusted on a zone basis. They generally should be fine all set the same.
Edit: If you are still talking wireless then yes.

tangoman · 11-12-2012 8:52pm

I have a sensor wired to the back door, it's not a ID sensor. Can the sensitivity be adjusted?

Thunderbird2 · 11-12-2012 8:59pm

Yes . Menu > zone menu> zone gross and pulse . Norm is 4 & 4

tangoman · 11-12-2012 9:06pm

I went into zone gross and pulse. On the keypad it shows P50 POINT 50, what does this mean?

KoolKid · 11-12-2012 11:18pm

What zone is your back door?
Go into zone menu not point menu.

Thunderbird2 · 12-12-2012 12:24am

If it saying p50 it means point 50 .. So go into the point menu as its an ID sensor

tangoman · 12-12-2012 1:21am

What i dont understand is, if i go into point menu it comes up (P50...59/ PS51...55), and if P50 to P59 are the points in zone 5, what does PS51...55 mean or do?

altor · 12-12-2012 2:23am

tangoman wrote: »

What i dont understand is, if i go into point menu it comes up (P50...59/ PS51...55), and if P50 to P59 are the points in zone 5, what does PS51...55 mean or do?

The PS are power supplies that are IDed to the system.
P is the device e.g an ID sensor.

Neither P50 or PS50 has any reliance to the system if a point ID sensor or power supply are not used.

tangoman · 13-12-2012 12:29am

Thanks again guys....

tangoman · 17-12-2012 12:10pm

how do I connect the four wires from digi dialler AB to line in CD to line out to a new type eircom master socket the main line in is coming to back of socket blue and white and blue to L1 AND L2 then on front panel there are two wires orange and orange and white going to L1 and L2 in blue socket there is also an orange socket marked in and out do I connect to this socket and what type terminals do I use thanks

KoolKid · 17-12-2012 10:31pm

Take the main line in to AB & return it on CD back to where you took it from.

HKC ALARM Installation

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