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super_furry wrote: »

I hate Priests.

That's all.

That's so last month; mages are where the broken is.

super_furry wrote: »

Sheeping and freezing is infuriating, but even though it's been bumped up to 10 mana, Mind Control still destroys you as soon as it gets to late game.

Have been playing a Warlock mostly but it's just not viable when almost every single game has you up against a Priest.

Mage problems aren't really related to polymorph more so all the freezes, ice block and pyroblast. And it's very frustrating to play against as all you can do is sit there and watch it happen.

For your warlock maybe shift the mana curve of your deck more towards creatures that cost 2 or 3 so that you can take board control early and not have to rely on big creatures at the end that priests can mind control.

Anyone getting an insane amount of mid-game disconnects?

Seifer wrote: »

I wasn't on last night but it's very bad in general. Really needs to be their number one priority to sort out.

I disagree their number one priority is to give me a key

So my arena is permanently bugged as per here: http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/the-arena/2949-arena-perma-bugged-unable-to-start-a-new

The game dropped in my last loss so I alt-tabbed to check if it was my connection or Hearthstone (it was HS). When I tabbed back in the graphics were completely messed up so I couldn't open the arena rewards. Restarted the client, graphics are fine but now whenever I go into arena I'm taken to the rewards screen.

Yay beta!

VinLieger wrote: »

Been signed up for months and still no key

Checked your details are correct? I signed up a week ago and got my key the other day.

I'm enjoying this. I like the fact that they are patching it regularly and making decks is fun. But like many card games, there seems to be too many powerful cards that have low cost. Things like rogue sap only costing 2 mana is ridiculous. You can cast that twice in the same turn for a measly 4 mana and then just wipe out your opponents hero with your army. I'm guessing that will get looked at fairly soon.

Nody wrote: »

Sap is far from op; for 2 mana you're not even killing the creature so it can be played again next turn (it's actually considered quite bad in general); If you want to see OP look at a murlock warlock rush deck :P

The thing is though that no matter what you nerf there will be a few decks that are "best" and the counters to them.

You aren't killing the creature but you are removing it from the field.

For example, lets say we have a few creatures out each and one of mine is a 5 cost, high HP taunt unit. For the cost of only 2 mana, you can nullify my expensive card, and win the game in a single turn by bursting down my hero. For 2 mana. It's a powerful card and nearly all rogues run it that I've played. Granted, I amnt at the top of the ladder yet but I've had it used against me so often I feel it's too inexpensive a card.

I have only properly been playing for a few days but I actually went from rank 25 to 17 in a single night. Massive win streak.

I don't have a lot of cards yet but I built myself a paladin deck and it's working very well for me. Most low cost cards and low cost buffs. I even got lucky and got a cool Alextrasza legendary to throw in for some top end damage. It's pretty cool.

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I wish it would show me my win/loss, not just my wins. However I am winning the majority now, whereas a few days ago when I started I definitely was not! Must give arena a whirl now. Was debating whether to just buy packs or to go into arena.

Arena will give you at least 1 pack, so I would suggest doing that, its a different style of game from constructed. If its your first Arena you get it free also.

By the way, there a lot of hidden quests/achievements to earn gold starting off, they are listed here:

http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Quest

Quick question to save me running through this thread but do I/will I need to start paying for cards eventually?

Ah good. I'm not adverse to putting money into a F2P game I like but I was wondering if this was going to be a simple case of here is the basic game but you now need to pay a tonne to get any decent cards in order to be competitive.

You don't need cards for Arena, as you have access to every card available there. As for constructed, you will have to get better cards than the starter decks if you want to progress.

My tips on how to get free cards is do all the quests you can(linked them earlier), and the dailies, and when you have 150g do an Arena. You are guaranteed at least 1 pack of cards(5 with at least 1 rare). This will take some time however, so if you want to rush the process you can buy packs(40 packs for €45) which is 200 cards.

Disenchant any card you have more than 2 of, and gold cards disenchant for more. Craft the cards you need.

I would recommend you get the following cards as they fit into nearly every type of deck:
Argent Commanderx2
Defender of Argusx2
Azure Drakex2

Those 6 cards can really boost a starter deck

I played Hunter for a few days and while I won some games and had fun with my traps and stealth style deck, I can see why everyone considers it the weakest class.

That longbow that does 5 damage is excellent, but their beasts are simply terrible. When you compare the synergy in a hunter beast deck to a warlock's imp deck or Shaman Murloc deck........its like night and day. Nerfing "Unleash the Hounds" may have been necessary, but it kind of killed the class. Statistically, it's the least played class and it's win percentage is down at like 36% which is truly awful when you compare it to the mage and rogue win percentage which is 55%.

I went back to paladin and I feel more comfortable again. It's the class I started with so that stands to reason. Getting Ragnaros in a pack helps too. He is quite overpowered. I wish I had tirion fordring though. Apparently, he's one of the better class legendaries. It's going to take a long while to save enough dust to craft him though.

The pack I opened after Nat Pagle had Gruul in it. Then after that I got some of the most common muck I've ever seen. But three legendaries in a row so I can't complain

Kirby wrote: »

I played Hunter for a few days and while I won some games and had fun with my traps and stealth style deck, I can see why everyone considers it the weakest class.

That longbow that does 5 damage is excellent, but their beasts are simply terrible. When you compare the synergy in a hunter beast deck to a warlock's imp deck or Shaman Murloc deck........its like night and day. Nerfing "Unleash the Hounds" may have been necessary, but it kind of killed the class. Statistically, it's the least played class and it's win percentage is down at like 36% which is truly awful when you compare it to the mage and rogue win percentage which is 55%.

Hunter is crap because its hero ability is the worst in the game. It has zero synergy with any of the hunter cards, in comparison to other classes.

Seifer wrote: »

It's not about synergy with the cards it's just that it doesn't in anyway affect the board and winning in Hearthstone relies heavily on board control.

Well that too.

But think about it.

Warlock has card draw, its cards are low cost or remove cards.

Priest, healing and health buffs, card draw etc.

Paladin, extra troops with powerful buffs(wisdom, kings).

Warrior, mage, rouge, druid and Shaman are all the same.

Their ability's work well with their own cards and neutral cards. They combo well with each other.

And then you have the derp hunter. Who hit for two damage to the hero. All the time. Even if it picked a random enemy it would be better.

Seifer wrote: »

To some extent I agree but in others not so much.

The mage's hero power is very good because it can affect the board (or the enemy hero) but no cards directly synergise with it.

Any enrage card or on hit card synergises quite well with it, including the early game. If you think about it, the mana cost of the AOE spells combined with the ping is very powerfull on most occasions.

Seifer wrote: »

Shaman is similar but can be infuriatingly random.

Bloodlust and other totem buffs make it quite powerful. Although I will admit, to me its the second weakest due to the random nature of it.

Seifer wrote: »

The warrior is an example where the class does have cards that take advantage of armour but the power is still next to useless. It rarely helps you kill anything; just prevents damage to yourself.

In a class that involves hitting things with your face at all stages of the game, gaining health/Armour is quite important.

Seifer wrote: »

Rogue, druid and paladin do all have good synergy with their powers but even if you didn't use any of the class cards that work will with the power it would still be very useful.
The priest I think is the class that relies most on how well the power synergises with the class cards; as a power on its own it wouldn't be great.

Agreed, I just think that if you look at the way the hero powers work both with other cards and by itself, the hunter is weak in all regards. The class cards themselves are not that bad, its just that the ability works in no way with them.

Gbear wrote: »

I presume this isn't going to cost full price, is it? (like 60 quid)

It will be free. You can use money to buy card packs or pay for arena runs currently but you can also do both of those things using in-game currency; it just takes longer.