McQuaid nominated unanimously by Switzerland (read warning post #78)

joker77 · 12-06-2013 4:50pm

If, and it's a big IF, Pat fails here to get the nomination and then gets ruled out in Switzerland - surely with all the globalisation work he's done he'll very easily secure a nomination in Africa/Asia?

Vino Veritas · 12-06-2013 4:55pm

I know of three clubs supporting Pat , ( a lot of negative comments here , but there are probably only a few clubs represented on all of boards)

Beasty · 12-06-2013 5:06pm

joker77 wrote: »

If, and it's a big IF, Pat fails here to get the nomination and then gets ruled out in Switzerland - surely with all the globalisation work he's done he'll very easily secure a nomination in Africa/Asia?

He has no options beyond Ireland and possibly Switzerland - only "his" federation can nominate him.

Beasty · 12-06-2013 5:09pm

Vino Veritas wrote: »

I know of three clubs supporting Pat , ( a lot of negative comments here , but there are probably only a few clubs represented on all of boards)

I know of only one supporting him and at least a dozen that have indicated they oppose his nomination. However I suspect there may be a number of others that have not been prepared to put their heads above the parapet and hence it may still be a close call

RobFowl · 12-06-2013 5:12pm

joker77 wrote: »

If, and it's a big IF, Pat fails here to get the nomination and then gets ruled out in Switzerland - surely with all the globalisation work he's done he'll very easily secure a nomination in Africa/Asia?

If you want to read about Asia this blog from a pro riding over there is enlightening.......

http://crankpunk.com/2013/06/04/the-question-of-doping-in-asia-and-a-conflict-of-interests/

Bunnyhopper · 12-06-2013 6:30pm

"Three members of Swiss Cycling appeal endorsement of McQuaid"

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/06/news/three-members-of-swiss-cycling-appeal-endorsement-of-mcquaid_290682

buffalo · 12-06-2013 7:02pm

Bunnyhopper wrote: »

"Three members of Swiss Cycling appeal endorsement of McQuaid"

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/06/news/three-members-of-swiss-cycling-appeal-endorsement-of-mcquaid_290682

Is that three members of the rank and file? ACTIVIST ALERT! ACTIVIST ALERT!

Beasty · 12-06-2013 10:36pm

McQuaid writes for Stickybottle

I just want to quote this as it directly refers to me (and others)

a small group of activists who have been manipulated by commercial interests

and would like to make it absolutely clear that no-one has manipulated me

morana · 12-06-2013 10:44pm

Beasty wrote: »

McQuaid writes for Stickybottle

I just want to quote this as it directly refers to me (and others)
and would like to make it absolutely clear that no-one has manipulated me

Likewise this is horse****!

RobFowl · 12-06-2013 10:51pm

Beasty wrote: »

McQuaid writes for Stickybottle

I just want to quote this as it directly refers to me (and others)
and would like to make it absolutely clear that no-one has manipulated me

Ditto

Beasty · 12-06-2013 11:03pm

Just to add one further point - the CI AGM was attended by two of the "activists" referred to as delegates (and another as a Board member) to raise the issue of McQuaid's leadership of the UCI. The original plan was to propose a vote of no confidence in McQuaid, but we were instructed by the Chairman that no resolutions could be put on the issue. Change Cycling Now was not even set up at that time, and to suggest we were acting at the behest of or being manipulated by anyone is factually incorrect. I don't think I had even heard of Jaimie Fuller when we turned up at the AGM.

Since then we have continued our efforts to get the CI membership a say on the issue which culminated in the Board calling the EGM for Saturday. If the membership decide to back his nomination then so be it. I will have done my share in ensuring a democratic process is observed. Clearly I have actively campaigned against the nomination but I have said all along that I will respect whatever decision is taken by the membership on Saturday.

niceonetom · 12-06-2013 11:23pm

Has anyone, other than McQuaid himself, said with clarity that he definitely has the Swiss nomination? The cynic in me wonders whether his assurances that he has it (and that it will prove impervious to legal challenge) is one last effort to demoralise the opposition and lower their turnout at the EGM.

buffalo · 12-06-2013 11:35pm

Beasty wrote: »

McQuaid writes for Stickybottle

rules which prevent athletes convicted of doping from becoming team staff members.

Was this the same McQuaid that commented on the lifetime ban issued by USADA to Luis Garcia del Moral, Michele Ferrari and Jose Pepe Marti by saying:

“I’ve read what they’ve said but as they’re not licence holders so I don’t know how they can ban them or what they can be banned for”

“From the UCI’s point of view we can’t see how these guys can be sanctioned for life,” said McQuaid. “They are not UCI licence holders, so under what grounds can they be sanctioned?”

He's some piece of work.

Bunnyhopper · 12-06-2013 11:38pm

"Opinion: Uncertainty and lingering questions mean a new UCI president is needed"

Shane Stokes on Stickybottle

kumate_champ07 · 13-06-2013 1:54am

"Cycling has never been a sport that turned a blind eye to the scourge of doping. Quite the contrary; for the past 20 years, the UCI has done everything possible to tackle doping by riders."

is this guy for real?

morana · 13-06-2013 8:28am

If you feel strongly about this decision and I know a lot of you do. check with your club to see if they are sending their delegates on Saturday. If not you can ask to go as a delegate. you dont need to be an office holder just a member. bring your licence and vote in accordance with your clubs wishes.

Despite what he says to StickyBottle this is important and we are not sure he has the Swiss nomination. We wrote to Cycling Ireland, Swiss board members and the UCI itself looking for confirmation that he was nominated - no confirmation was forthcoming which leads me to believe that he is not nominated.

RobFowl · 13-06-2013 8:32am

morana wrote: »

If you feel strongly about this decision and I know a lot of you do. check with your club to see if they are sending their delegates on Saturday. If not you can ask to go as a delegate. you dont need to be an office holder just a member. bring your licence and vote in accordance with your clubs wishes.

Despite what he says to StickyBottle this is important and we are not sure he has the Swiss nomination. We wrote to Cycling Ireland, Swiss board members and the UCI itself looking for confirmation that he was nominated - no confirmation was forthcoming which leads me to believe that he is not nominated.

The swiss have not confirmed that he is nominated despite numerous requests. This EGM is vital hence the sudden rush of press last night.
Primetime on RTE tonight is covering it as well.

C3PO · 13-06-2013 9:11am

I've just had sight of the blurb that Pat McQuaid has sent to the clubs and his aim is clearly to persuade us that his Swiss nomination is a "done deal" and that the CI EGM is just a formaility - the implication being that it's really not worth attending! He really is a "piece of work"!

pprendeville · 13-06-2013 9:23am

buffalo wrote: »

Was this the same McQuaid that commented on the lifetime ban issued by USADA to Luis Garcia del Moral, Michele Ferrari and Jose Pepe Marti by saying:

He's some piece of work.

Ditto Matt White - Orica GreenEdge.

Beasty · 13-06-2013 9:26am

C3PO wrote: »

I've just had sight of the blurb that Pat McQuaid has sent to the clubs and his aim is clearly to persuade us that his Swiss nomination is a "done deal" and that the CI EGM is just a formaility - the implication being that it's really not worth attending! He really is a "piece of work"!

He has had 2 months to withdraw his request to CI which he could have done if he was so confident about the Swiss position. The fact he has not done so is a clear indication to me of his concerns over the issue

Junior · 13-06-2013 9:56am

Vino Veritas wrote: »

I know of three clubs supporting Pat , ( a lot of negative comments here , but there are probably only a few clubs represented on all of boards)

I think another club supported him last night.

Chips Lovell · 13-06-2013 9:58am

a small group of activists who have been manipulated by commercial interests

It's this kind of stuff that serves to further convince me he has no place heading up the UCI.

To say that guys like Anto, Conor and Paul are being manipulated by shadowy forces is absolutely ridiculous. I know them all and I know that they started their campaign off their own bat. Their position is long held and they've been lobbying long before this became a global issue.

It's not the first time that I've heard these mutterings about interference by "outsiders" in the debate and I've no idea where it's coming from.

I find it quite disappointing and saddening that he's attempted to smear them in this fashion.

As for "small group", at this stage I'm aware of hundreds of people in Irish cycling who believe he shouldn't get a third term. These guys are just the thin end of the wedge, the ones who got up off their arses and really made their voices heard.

buffalo · 13-06-2013 10:08am

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

It's not the first time that I've heard these mutterings about interference by "outsiders" in the debate and I've no idea where it's coming from.

I thought that was directed at Lumen.

Eamonnator · 13-06-2013 10:16am

Any odds on the result of Tomorrow's vote?

Beasty · 13-06-2013 10:27am

A couple of quotes from McQuaid's SB article:

The board of Cycling Ireland is elected by its members and it is only right and proper that due respect and recognition is given to the board’s mandate and responsibility to take decisions in the best interests of the members that it represents

Let's just revisit what happened at the CI "Board" meeting he is referring to. The President stepped out of the chair precisely because he wished to influence the vote -something he felt unable to do as chairman of the meeting. This drove a coach and horses through CI's governannce procedures and any "decision" reached had absolutely no basis to bind CI. TBH I was absolutely staggered when I heard what had happened at the meeting - it was clear to me as soon as I heard what had happened that any "decision" taken was ultra vires. The Board clearly recognised this when they re-convened and agreed a more appropriate approach was to give the membership a say on the matter

I respect that 32 of the 330 clubs supported an EGM after an intensive lobbying campaign.

That total was reached within a couple of days - the "intense lobbying" became superfluous as soon as teh CI Board called teh EGM - he presents it as if less than 10% of the clubs supported the EGM -that is not bthe case - other clubs were due to discuss the request over the weekend and I have no doubt we could have got teh support of many, many more clubs if required

Now if Pat is so convinced about his Swiss position, why is he even bothering writing to the Irish clubs? He clearly still considers the decision on Saturday to be critical to his re-election ambitions

Inquitus · 13-06-2013 10:27am

Eamonnator wrote: »

Any odds on the result of Tomorrow's vote?

For Pat 2/1
Against Pat 4/7

RobFowl · 13-06-2013 10:29am

Eamonnator wrote: »

Any odds on the result of Tomorrow's vote?

No odds but I'm going to arrange EGM Bingo

First person to cross off these gets a prize (if they shout out!)

Stab in the back
But sure he's Irish
Lance Armstrong
Biopassport
Vocal activists
Drugs/doping

ROK ON · 13-06-2013 10:41am

Inquitus wrote: »

For Pat 2/1
Against Pat 4/7

I would not be so generous. I think that for many folks based in the provinces that they may not have string enough feelings to justify travelling to Dublin.
I would be very interested to know how many clubs in Kerry, Cork, Connaught, Donegal etc actually send delegates.

Junior · 13-06-2013 11:01am

RobFowl wrote: »

No odds but I'm going to arrange EGM Bingo

First person to cross off these gets a prize (if they shout out!)

Stab in the back
But sure he's Irish
Lance Armstrong
Biopassport
Vocal activists
Drugs/doping
Globalization
He Built The Road
You can't let a Brit Win

Just added a few more there ..

RobFowl · 13-06-2013 2:14pm

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/could-pat-mcquaid-face-a-vote-of-no-confidence-at-uci-management-committee

Pat McQuaid seems like he's going to face a vote of no confidence this afternoon iat the UCI management committee meeting....

McQuaid nominated unanimously by Switzerland (read warning post #78)

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