Clonmel Thread

Right guys rant time....firstly here is my backround..from Cork live here now..yep a girl thats it now RANT...my best friend here has started a business yes a brave move before u say and i agree but i think of it more as "fair play"anyway went in for a takaway last this eveing and bold as brass the person behind counter(speaking to customer)said ah sur they will have no hope there.No praise at all for taking a chance..for customer who didnt even know who or where it was even located agreed and went on to even bad mouth the business.Please support local,self employed people are employing it may be 1 or 10 but they are our 1 or 10.

well said.

I 100% agree with this buy local bit.

In Ireland we have increasingly become globalised and people would much rather go buy some silly branded sh1t than support their local businesses.

It drives me insane when I see people queue for coffee in Starbucks around Ireland when the small independent coffee shop around the corner offers as good if not better ( sewer water would be better than starbucks ffs ) for a comparable price.

Same with McDonalds - don't tell me the Burger and chips or fish and Chips from Lyons' is not infinitely better than the sh1t McDonalds sells - but because they advertise with a big funny looking lad on telly people come from miles around to buy their tripe!

At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist - the Big Business loans countries money - if big business makes it impossible for countries to get money they have to go to the IMF - the IMF makes countries sell their assets ( at low prices because of the recession ) and soon Big Business owns counties best assets at knock down prices - thats just how it works.
Something similar happens the small independent trader - BB comes in during recession - can afford to pay big rents, makes it impossible for small guys to compete and soon enough every penny you spend goes into these guys pockets and not into your own community. Yes they create jobs but independent guys would create nearly as many and the money would stay local.

Rant over - buy Irish, buy local

mozattack wrote: »

The Old Convent = best place in Ireland, end of.

Lost me there I'm afraid

Deleted User wrote: »

The back pocket would want to be full looking at the prices.It looks lovely though......:)

€65 for 3 hrs eating = good value for me I am afraid (there from 8pm to 11pm).

Okay staying pushes it into a new price range but I wont be arsed with that

Sad to see another pub will close its doors tonight and not reopen again.
The polish pub in Irishtown is closing down tonight, the lease holder gave it his best shot but its not worked out for him.

hamco wrote: »

Sad to see another pub will close its doors tonight and not reopen again.
The polish pub in Irishtown is closing down tonight, the lease holder gave it his best shot but its not worked out for him.

I thought that place was doing well. On another note I hear the 19th hole is reopening and also Dannos is making a comeback again.

hamco wrote: »

Sad to see another pub will close its doors tonight and not reopen again.
The polish pub in Irishtown is closing down tonight, the lease holder gave it his best shot but its not worked out for him.

Really? I see on their Facebook page that they're doing all drinks €3.50 tonight. Getting rid of stock?

darragh o meara wrote: »

I thought that place was doing well. On another note I hear the 19th hole is reopening and also Dannos is making a comeback again.

Another Dannos comeback attempt? :rolleyes:
When's Higgins gonna realise he can't run a club properly and hand it over to somebody who will?

hamco wrote: »

Sad to see another pub will close its doors tonight and not reopen again.
The polish pub in Irishtown is closing down tonight, the lease holder gave it his best shot but its not worked out for him.

the one across from where that deli used to be?
(corner of o neill street?)

RobAMerc wrote: »

sorry rant alert - was in Clonmel today.
Dunnes on Waterford road, The Show grounds and the poppy fields car parks were full of cars while the town centre was dead as a dodo.

Well done town planners! People who want to shop in Clonmel have to have a car to get to these places while the locals who own shops in the town centre are left for dead.

And why can't/won't they shop in Dunnes on O'Connell street or Oakville ?

Vizzy wrote: »

And why can't/won't they shop in Dunnes on O'Connell street or Oakville ?

because they need their cars to go to the shops on the edges of town, and parking in clonmel is a disaster ( because of bad planning )
Allowing them to build large malls on the outskirts has donutised the town everything is now on the ring road and there is nothing left in the middle !
(slight exaggeration but you get the drift )

RobAMerc wrote: »

sorry rant alert - was in Clonmel today.
Dunnes on Waterford road, The Show grounds and the poppy fields car parks were full of cars while the town centre was dead as a dodo.

Well done town planners! People who want to shop in Clonmel have to have a car to get to these places while the locals who own shops in the town centre are left for dead.

The town centre is a nightmare for parking, no one can dispute that, how many times do we circle the town looking for a space to park, people double park on the main street while they use cash machines etc, must be a nightmare for the less able bodied or elderly who need to park near the shop they want to use.

Shopping centres are built for convience and always have ample parking, and thats what makes them an attractive alterative to the town centre.
The problem is even if the council decide to build another car park in town, where could they build it?
Not sure what the solution is to this issue.

The planning for a multi story was also rejected for the Mary st car park. And the fact the Arms is left in the state its in is a fupping disgrace.

Too slim a brown envelope for the councillors I imagine.

In Kilkenny you can practically park on the main st in a multi story. And the shopping centre was built almost in the town centre also.

That's a case of the planners caring about the town rather than helping out the land barons with useless land on the fringes of towns convert them into shopping outlets people have to drive to.

archtech wrote: »

The problem with the proposed Arms multi-storey car park originally was it was too high, it would have been higher than the steeple of St Peter and Paul's Church. The site was too small and would have been a disaster if it had been built.

Regarding Mary Street, there used to be a legal problem which restricted building a car park above 2 storeys, which turned away many potential developers of the car park for many years. The issue was only resolved when the Celtic Tiger was gone and nobody had access to money to build one.

Biggest problem in Clonmel nobody want to walk anywhere or any further than 100 m everyone wants to park outside the door of the shop, look a the double parking regularly on O'Connell and Gladstone Street.

To be fair to the planners in Clonmel, they resisted relative to other towns the development of out of town shopping centres.

resisted ? so how come there is now 3 at least ?
Ok - Dunnes on the Waterford road has always been there, and Tesco out manoeuvred them ( as they have done in many locations to be fair ), but there was never a need for the Showgrounds and nor was or is there a need for the Poppy fields other than to use waste land to build something on.