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Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

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    #9602
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Guys who don't play generally come back sooner. Wouldn't surprise me if Sherry played.


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    #9603
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 23,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    It can be harder for players on the fringe than players playing, just because they aren't playing it doesn't matter they aren't doing loads and loads of other stuff, also, being away from home for weeks on end can be mentally tiring, I'd much prefer for players to have a break at the start of the season rather than suffer burn out near the end. It also gives fringe players a great opportunity to start a season, win win win.


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    #9604
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    It's important for guys to get a proper break and a proper preseason. I'm much more interested in Sherry being fit enough to play next April or May than having him for the opening rounds. It's win-win imo, we get a chance to see more of Henry and maybe Scannell (who was excellent for the u20's) or Rael.


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    #9605
    profitius
    Registered Users Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    Duncan Casey is in his second year of the academy. He'll be able to fill in for a few games as would Scannell. They had this in mind when putting the final squad together.

    Brian Hayes (academy 3rd year) will be getting games this season. I think Brian Hayes might be better than Foley or Nagle. Foley still looks very skinny while Hayes offers ball carrying ability.

    I'd also like to see more of the props getting games next season. Props need a run of games but I wasn't too impressed with Archer last season. He is powerful but has no technique.


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    #9606
    brinty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Lads anyone know if and when the open training sessions will be on? And when and where will they take place??


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    #9607
    Bassfish
    Registered Users Posts: 903 ✭✭✭Bassfish


    I have a bad feeling that Nagle is wasting vital years on the peripheries of the munster squad that may ultimately stunt his development. There was so much talk about him 18 months ago but hasn't got a peek in since (I know he was injured for a bit). Couldn't he have been loaned to Connaught for one season? He would have gotten game time week in week out and Heineken cup exposure and would have returned battle ready to Munster.
    Also I'd love to see PO'M developed as a 7 and not a utility back row. That's what Munster need most and that's where he'd get game time for Ireland.


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    #9608
    Cpt_Blackbeard
    Registered Users Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Cpt_Blackbeard


    Bassfish wrote: »
    I have a bad feeling that Nagle is wasting vital years on the peripheries of the munster squad that may ultimately stunt his development. There was so much talk about him 18 months ago but hasn't got a peek in since (I know he was injured for a bit). Couldn't he have been loaned to Connaught for one season? He would have gotten game time week in week out and Heineken cup exposure and would have returned battle ready to Munster.
    Also I'd love to see PO'M developed as a 7 and not a utility back row. That's what Munster need most and that's where he'd get game time for Ireland.

    Nagle has spent the last 18months injured and bulking up. If you've seen pictures of him in recent months, you'd understand that he has been forsaking gametime in order to gain the mass required to make the step up. This coming season will decide the path of his career imo. He has the bulk, now he just needs the chances to build on his early promise. He'll either end the season tussling with DOC for a spot in the squad, or battling it out with Hayes and Foley for gametime.

    Openside is probably our best stocked area in the squad. Although we don't have the established names, the squad is full of them. All of Ronan, Stander, TOD, Dougal and BOM would primarily play at 7. POM could be a very good 7, but I think he'll see most of his gametime at 6/8. Where he ends up will depend on DOC2.0's and Butler's progress.


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    #9609
    Hagz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,257 ✭✭✭Hagz


    This is the most recent image I can find of him playing, in April 2012
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    This is him playing in November 2010.
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    Can't really see much difference tbh, other than jerseys. But maybe I'm wrong. I seem to remember someone else saying they thought he bulked up too, but they were basing it on this image, which doesn't really show anything. Plus it was taken a month after the first picture. Unless he bulked up considerably in one month.
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    #9610
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    The Nagle at the end of last season was a lot bigger than the one a season ago. He's worryingly prone to niggles though.


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    #9611
    Fishooks12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    In reality this is Nagle's year. He can go one of either way.


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    #9612
    buck65
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    Does anyone else think it's suspicious that when players are "bulking up" that they disappear from the squad on matchday? Surely a manager would be more interested in keeping them game sharp as well as working the gym or are they wary of players testing positive for substances?


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    #9613
    theKramer
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    It's because players can't train 4 playing & bulk up at d same time... That's why when players get injured they usually come back bigger as they hav d time 2 bulk up...


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    #9614
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    buck65 wrote: »
    Does anyone else think it's suspicious that when players are "bulking up" that they disappear from the squad on matchday? Surely a manager would be more interested in keeping them game sharp as well as working the gym or are they wary of players testing positive for substances?

    That's not it at all.

    These players manage their bodies on long-term semesterised programs. During periods when they're playing every week they aren't killing themselves in the weights room, merely just doing maintenance lifting. All their muscle building work is done during the offseason etc. when they aren't being shackled by recovery periods.

    But Nagle seems to have just had a lot of injury troubles. Foley seems like a better prospect to me tbh.


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    #9615
    profitius
    Registered Users Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    But Nagle seems to have just had a lot of injury troubles. Foley seems like a better prospect to me tbh.

    I'm still not convinced by either of them. Brian Hayes could be better than both of them. Its too early to judge.

    Nagle was hyped up a lot after one or two good games. The hype has calmed down a bit now. He looks a good athlete and the extra bulk might make him more competitive at a higher level.


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    #9616
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Due to the size of this thread and to help boards run more smoothly i'm closing this thread. Discussion can continue here.

    apologies for any inconvenience.


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