Ulster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

roycon · 29-06-2012 6:04pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Tim Barker has retired, think he's a chartered accountant.

hahaha what a fall from grace

jacothelad · 29-06-2012 6:15pm

Meet Ulster Rugby’s Mark Anscombe

On Thursday evening, Ulster Rugby season ticket holders were invited to a special Q&A event at the stadium, were they were given the opportunity to grill new head coach Mark Anscombe , Director of Rugby David Humphreys and CEO Shane Logan on a range of issues.

Good report here.

http://www.ruggerhuggerireland.co.uk/?p=1944

CatFromHue · 29-06-2012 6:27pm

"With regards to any injury concerns, Paul Marshall underwent an operation on his elbow on Wednesday and is expected to be back for Ulster’s final pre-season friendly against Newcastle Falcons, while Tommy Bowe is fit after his last injury and due to start training on 9th July.

Jared Payne is also now fully fit, and could have played at the time of the Heineken Cup Final. Humphreys added that the fullback was much fitter physically than when he first arrived in the province, firmly believing Payne would be “the star for us [Ulster] this year”, with the management hugely excited to see him playing once again."

Interesting updates from that Rugger Hugger link.

I can't remember but did Marshall have surgery or just physio on his elbow towards the end of last season?

Also it looks like some of the Irish touring squad to NZ will be available for the start of next season.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 29-06-2012 7:16pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

Jared Payne is also now fully fit, and could have played at the time of the Heineken Cup Final. Humphreys added that the fullback was much fitter physically than when he first arrived in the province, firmly believing Payne would be “the star for us [Ulster] this year”, with the management hugely excited to see him playing once again."

I agree with this, Payne is someone who I really rate and think he could make a massive contribution to the team.

I know Terblanche didn't do badly this season

but Payne is even better

damianmcr · 29-06-2012 7:23pm

Besides Bowes return, Payne is what im most excited for.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 29-06-2012 7:28pm

damianmcr wrote: »

Besides Bowes return, Payne is what im most excited for.

Payne Bowe and Trimble is a world class back three. I can't think of many club teams that have a better back three

Digifriendly · 30-06-2012 12:45pm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Payne Bowe and Trimble is a world class back three. I can't think of many club teams that have a better back three

Would you drop Craig Gilroy?

30-06-2012 1:32pm

I think Gilroy is pushing Trimble hard for a starting spot to be honest.

Gilroy, Bowe and Trimble have all played both sides of the pitch too.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 30-06-2012 2:34pm

Digifriendly wrote: »

Would you drop Craig Gilroy?

he is probably the most likely to lose out in the short term but he will get plenty of gametime next season and be fighting it out for a starting spot with Trimble.

irishbucsfan · 30-06-2012 4:24pm

Trimble or Gilroy will see plenty of game time next season. Bowe and Trimble will be gone on international duty for long periods.

I agree though that Gilroy could well push Trimble. Perhaps the option of having Gilroy at 15 will be explored as well, Anscombe might want to evaluate all the avenues open to him and he would have seen Gilroy playing 15 before.

leonard7 · 01-07-2012 10:35am

Apparently after the HC final Jackson was devastated in the changing rooms head in hands and Sexton walked in and sat beside him and was just saying how he will be the next ireland number 10 and to forget today and just giving advice and consoling him....only in rugby

jm08 · 02-07-2012 5:23pm

leonard7 wrote: »

Apparently after the HC final Jackson was devastated in the changing rooms head in hands and Sexton walked in and sat beside him and was just saying how he will be the next ireland number 10 and to forget today and just giving advice and consoling him....only in rugby

Was Ian Madigan in earshot?

CatFromHue · 02-07-2012 6:31pm

Conor Gaston has moved to London Irish Academy.

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_7859011,00.html

PhatPiggins · 02-07-2012 8:23pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

Conor Gaston has moved to London Irish Academy.

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_7859011,00.html

Two steps backwards !!

CatFromHue · 02-07-2012 8:42pm

Bowe, Trimble, Gilroy, Payne, D'arcy would be ahead of him all who will be around for a few years.

It mightn't be that bad a move to be honest.

jacothelad · 02-07-2012 9:03pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

Bowe, Trimble, Gilroy, Payne, D'arcy would be ahead of him all who will be around for a few years.

It mightn't be that bad a move to be honest.

There are others also who would be better than Gaston. Spence will spend time on the wing for starters. Cochrane - if he's still around and Peter Nelson also would be ahead of Gaston.

thomond2006 · 02-07-2012 9:13pm

jacothelad · 02-07-2012 9:21pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Thomond 2006 = Total Far Car.

thomond2006 · 08-07-2012 2:45pm

http://www.ulsterrugby.com/rugby/ulster_first_team.php?player=104791&includeref=dynamic

Anyone know much about Ricky Lutton? He's a 26 year old prop and has got a development contract starting next season.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 08-07-2012 4:54pm

I did some research regarding his time in NZ

Canterbury rugby union divides into three sub unions for competition below NPC level

He was the starting TH for the Canterbury Metropolitan sub unions representative side in 2011.

the_doctor199 · 11-07-2012 11:11am

New season fixtures now online, Kicking off with Glasgow at home and wraps up with Cardiff, also at home.

http://www.ulsterrugby.com/news/10632.php

awec · 11-07-2012 12:29pm

Round 1: ULSTER v GLASGOW, 31 Aug - 2 Sep 2012
Round 2: Ospreys v Ulster, 7 - 9 Sep 2012, Liberty Stadium
Round 3: ULSTER v MUNSTER, 14 - 16 Sep 2012
Round 4: Zebre v Ulster, 21 - 23 Sep 2012, Stadio XXV Aprile
Round 5: Cardiff v Ulster, 28 - 30 Sep 2012, Cardiff Arms Park
Round 6: ULSTER v CONNACHT, 5 - 7 Oct 2012
Round 7: Dragons v Ulster, 26 - 28 Oct 2012, Rodney Parade
Round 8: ULSTER v EDINBURGH, 2 - 4 Nov 2012
Round 9: Treviso v Ulster, 23 - 25 Nov 2012, Stadio Monigo
Round 10: Scarlets v Ulster, 30 Nov - 2 Dec 2012, Parc y Scarlets
Round 11: ULSTER v LEINSTER, 21 - 23 Dec 2012
Round 12: Munster v Ulster, 28 - 30 Dec 2012, TBA
Round 13: ULSTER v SCARLETS, 4 - 6 Jan 2013
Round 14: ULSTER v OSPREYS, 8 - 10 Feb 2013
Round 15: ULSTER v ZEBRE, 15 - 17 Feb 2013
Round 16: Glasgow v Ulster, 22 - 24 Feb 2013, Scotstoun Stadium
Round 17: ULSTER v TREVISO, 1 - 3 Mar 2013
Round 18: Edinburgh v Ulster, 22 - 24 March 2013, Murrayfield
Round 19: Leinster v Ulster 29 Mar - 31 Mar 2013, RDS
Round 20: ULSTER v DRAGONS, 12 - 14 Apr 2013
Round 21: Connacht v Ulster, 19 - 21 Apr 2013, Sportsground
Round 22: ULSTER v CARDIFF, 3 - 5 May 2013

CatFromHue · 11-07-2012 1:08pm

awec wrote: »

Round 11: ULSTER v LEINSTER, 21 - 23 Dec 2012
Round 12: Munster v Ulster, 28 - 30 Dec 2012, TBA
Round 13: ULSTER v SCARLETS, 4 - 6 Jan 2013

There shouldn't be the balls up at Christmas like there was last year where Ulster had to play two games in a 4 or 5 days.

Assuming BBC NI have the same arrangement next season for Ulster to play their home games on a Friday night means:
21 Dec Ulster v Leinster
28-30 Dec Munster v Ulster
4 Jan Ulster v Scarlets

Whether any of the Irish players will be released is another thing though.

madlad88 · 11-07-2012 1:48pm

Just heard that the ulster academy signed up Irish 20's second row Alan O'Connor

Great signing for them, leinster's own lose as no doubt he'll b pushing for the first team by next year

Hagz · 11-07-2012 2:52pm

madlad88 wrote: »

Just heard that the ulster academy signed up Irish 20's second row Alan O'Connor

Great signing for them, leinster's own lose as no doubt he'll b pushing for the first team by next year

Dammit. Why didn't Leinster sign him up. Really didn't get it, as Leinster aren't exactly blessed with locks. I've seen this guy O'Connor play with UCD and he's a monster, a real enforcer lock. Still, at least he's in an academy.

madlad88 · 11-07-2012 5:05pm

Hagz wrote: »

Dammit. Why didn't Leinster sign him up. Really didn't get it, as Leinster aren't exactly blessed with locks. I've seen this guy O'Connor play with UCD and he's a monster, a real enforcer lock. Still, at least he's in an academy.

Ye it is a real pity. They must be blind, i feel he is better then any of the locks in the Leinster Academy at the moment. Him and henderson will be a force to be reckoned with in 2 or 3 years !

CIARAN_BOYLE · 15-07-2012 12:18pm

Has anyone heard how season ticket sales are going this year for ulster rugby.

damianmcr · 15-07-2012 1:23pm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Has anyone heard how season ticket sales are going this year for ulster rugby.

Up 20%

irishbucsfan · 16-07-2012 1:52pm

Alan O'Connor won't be playing for Ulster any time soon, maybe in the longer term but he has a long way to go. Ulster have the best group of locks in the UK & Ireland.

There are two better prospects going into Leinsters academy as well. I completely agree with their approach. Don't lower the standard in any position based on a short term lack of depth.

Great news about the season tickets.

awec · 16-07-2012 11:17pm

Anyone know when the new gear is properly unveiled and released?

bilston · 17-07-2012 10:59am

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Alan O'Connor won't be playing for Ulster any time soon, maybe in the longer term but he has a long way to go. Ulster have the best group of locks in the UK & Ireland.

There are two better prospects going into Leinsters academy as well. I completely agree with their approach. Don't lower the standard in any position based on a short term lack of depth.

I'm pleased with this news about Alan O'Connor. I think one of the key tasks facing Anscombe this season is finding a replacement for Muller for 2013/14 and beyond. Now while any Kiwis I've spoken to have had mixed views on Anscombe in general as a head coach, they do mostly say he is a very good forwards coach so he should be in a good position to find a replacement and develop them accordingly. Hopefully between Henderson, Stevenson and O'Connor we can do that while also aware that Caldwell is entering the final year of his contract at Bath. Although I wonder if Caldwell could be a potential target for Leinster?

CatFromHue · 23-07-2012 8:38pm

The former New Zealand Under-20 boss is happy with how the players are reacting in training. "We are getting our patterns in place, working on the fundamentals and developing things that I think we need to do more effectively.

"We are trying to develop the players bit by bit without making it a total overload of information. We're getting there, the players have been working hard for the past four weeks and I've been pleased with their progress..

"The players seem to be picking it up easily enough at the minute, we're looking at keeping it simple to start with and build as a group."

He continued: "Guys like Callum Black, Paddy McAllister, Adam Macklin, John Burns and Niall Annett are all training well, Ali Birch and Robbie Diack have too.

"These guys are here every day and enjoying the work at the moment. They've shown a good attitude - how they transfer that into playing will be the important thing.

"The Under-20s are back this week so it will give us a chance to look at Iain Henderson, Peter Nelson, Chris Farrell, Stuart Olding and see what we've got.

"The likes of Paddy (Wallace), Stephen (Ferris) and Tom (Court) have all had operations so we've got to be careful with how we ease them back into training."

http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/26854.php

What op did Paddy Wallace have does anyone know?

shaungil · 23-07-2012 9:45pm

Great move for O'connor with Anscombe and Muller should bring him on a lot. Thought he was very effective in WC hit rucks tackled hard did the donkey work a second row should be doing nothing too flash. That being said it was possible as Henderson went back row to give the lineout options.

jacothelad · 23-07-2012 10:36pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/26854.php

What op did Paddy Wallace have does anyone know?

Shoulder op. he was waiting for it when Einstein Deccie called him up.

bilston · 24-07-2012 11:30am

CatFromHue wrote: »

The former New Zealand Under-20 boss is happy with how the players are reacting in training. "We are getting our patterns in place, working on the fundamentals and developing things that I think we need to do more effectively.

"We are trying to develop the players bit by bit without making it a total overload of information. We're getting there, the players have been working hard for the past four weeks and I've been pleased with their progress..

"The players seem to be picking it up easily enough at the minute, we're looking at keeping it simple to start with and build as a group."

He continued: "Guys like Callum Black, Paddy McAllister, Adam Macklin, John Burns and Niall Annett are all training well, Ali Birch and Robbie Diack have too.

"These guys are here every day and enjoying the work at the moment. They've shown a good attitude - how they transfer that into playing will be the important thing.

"The Under-20s are back this week so it will give us a chance to look at Iain Henderson, Peter Nelson, Chris Farrell, Stuart Olding and see what we've got.

"The likes of Paddy (Wallace), Stephen (Ferris) and Tom (Court) have all had operations so we've got to be careful with how we ease them back into training."

http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/26854.php

What op did Paddy Wallace have does anyone know?

Good to hear him mention the young lads there. If he thinks they are up to it I think he'll give them the games this season, there'll be no faffing around with the youngsters that sometimes happens elsewhere. Although in fairness McLaughlin was pretty good at bringing them as well.

It's also interesting that all the senior players he mentioned were forwards! I guess this goes to show where his talents as a coach lie!

.ak · 24-07-2012 11:37am

CatFromHue wrote: »

"These guys are here every day and enjoying the work at the moment. They've shown a good attitude - how they transfer that into playing will be the important thing.

That's a good sign. It's interesting if you contrast that statement to the usual statement you hear from Kidney regarding selections during the pre-season.

backawaygo onahead · 24-07-2012 12:50pm

bilston wrote: »

Although I wonder if Caldwell could be a potential target for Leinster?

We can only hope so. Some guys I'm delighted to see return, Tommy Bowe obviously, Roger too given Pedrie's constructive dismissal but I'd be apoplectic with rage to see the penalty machine who decreed he was too good to play for the Ravens back.

I've heard people say he has been good at Bath but having seen plenty of him there, I take leave to disagree.

Stephenson clearly best placed to progress followed by Henderson.

Some seem to think Johann will finish this season, has anyone got solid confirmation? Despite all that IRFU have thrown into the mix I wouldn't be altogether surprised if JM doesn't take a further 1 year contract.

PhatPiggins · 24-07-2012 12:55pm

backawaygo onahead wrote: »

We can only hope so. Some guys I'm delighted to see return, Tommy Bowe obviously, Roger too given Pedrie's constructive dismissal but I'd be apoplectic with rage to see the penalty machine who decreed he was too good to play for the Ravens back.

I've heard people say he has been good at Bath but having seen plenty of him there, I take leave to disagree.

Stephenson clearly best placed to progress followed by Henderson.

Some seem to think Johann will finish this season, has anyone got solid confirmation? Despite all that IRFU have thrown into the mix I wouldn't be altogether surprised if JM doesn't take a further 1 year contract.

I think Caldwell played consistently well up to Christmas in a rancid Bath pack. He seemed to drop off a little after that but crucially he seems to have sorted out the sociopathic tendencies.

Personally I think he's better off in England. He's one of those borderline players who always seems to get stuck in controversy in his home club but thrives with a fresh start.

bilston · 24-07-2012 1:49pm

backawaygo onahead wrote: »

We can only hope so. Some guys I'm delighted to see return, Tommy Bowe obviously, Roger too given Pedrie's constructive dismissal but I'd be apoplectic with rage to see the penalty machine who decreed he was too good to play for the Ravens back.

I've heard people say he has been good at Bath but having seen plenty of him there, I take leave to disagree.

Stephenson clearly best placed to progress followed by Henderson.

Some seem to think Johann will finish this season, has anyone got solid confirmation? Despite all that IRFU have thrown into the mix I wouldn't be altogether surprised if JM doesn't take a further 1 year contract.

Well it wouldn't surprise me if Muller and Ulster decided he should have another 12 months but then would the IRFU allow it?

totallegend · 24-07-2012 2:31pm

bilston wrote: »

Well it wouldn't surprise me if Muller and Ulster decided he should have another 12 months but then would the IRFU allow it?

Hmmm. Technically, no, he'd be excluded by the new rules, but if Afoa is gone (thus reducing the headcount of foreigners) and if there are no other NIQ second-rows signed up for the 2013/4 season (the only one for this year is Quinn Roux at Leinster and he's on a one-year deal), I don't see why IRFU would object. Particularly if Tuohy cements a place with ireland, Ulster would have very strong grounds for wanting to keep an experienced lock on the books.

bilston · 24-07-2012 4:00pm

totallegend wrote: »

Hmmm. Technically, no, he'd be excluded by the new rules, but if Afoa is gone (thus reducing the headcount of foreigners) and if there are no other NIQ second-rows signed up for the 2013/4 season (the only one for this year is Quinn Roux at Leinster and he's on a one-year deal), I don't see why IRFU would object. Particularly if Tuohy cements a place with ireland, Ulster would have very strong grounds for wanting to keep an experienced lock on the books.

Afoa has two years left on his contract though.

Our NIQs
Pienaar 2 years left
Afoa 2 years left
Williams 2 years left (assume he didn't get a 3 year contract)
Muller 1 year left

Project Player Payne 2 years left

The thing is Muller is mentoring the likes of Henderson while bringing on Stevenson and Tuohy to another level then why would the IRFU not let him stay other than to satisfy their stupid rule about not letting NIQs sign contract extensions.

totallegend · 24-07-2012 4:24pm

bilston wrote: »

Afoa has two years left on his contract though.

Thought he only came on a 2-year deal, my mistake

irishbucsfan · 24-07-2012 5:12pm

If Nathan Hines had to go then I'd imagine Muller will as well.

bilston · 24-07-2012 7:06pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

If Nathan Hines had to go then I'd imagine Muller will as well.

No doubt and just like Wannenberg had to go (to be replaced by Williams seriously WTF logic is there to that?) it's a bellix rule.

neckedit · 24-07-2012 8:19pm

Not sure if this is cool, Mods will delete if not, got a Heineken Cup Final Jersey for sale on Adverts if any one is interested, never worn. XXL, Hate to say it but too small for me :rolleyes:

http://www.adverts.ie/1899790

jacothelad · 24-07-2012 8:58pm

neckedit wrote: »

Not sure if this is cool, Mods will delete if not, got a Heineken Cup Final Jersey for sale on Adverts if any one is interested, never worn. XXL, Hate to say it but too small for me :rolleyes:

http://www.adverts.ie/1899790

I've sent you a p.m. I'm sure I could squeeze into it with a bit of help.

Contact me a.s.a.p.

24-07-2012 9:11pm

neckedit wrote: »

Not sure if this is cool, Mods will delete if not, got a Heineken Cup Final Jersey for sale on Adverts if any one is interested, never worn. XXL, Hate to say it but too small for me :rolleyes:

http://www.adverts.ie/1899790

I'm a Leinster fan but I'd pay that asking price!

Think jaco or one of the other Ulster boys will take it alright though.

jacothelad · 24-07-2012 9:21pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm a Leinster fan but I'd pay that asking price!

Think jaco or one of the other Ulster boys will take it alright though.

Yes. I'm happy to take it at that price depending on the postage of course. I got really, really screwed a while back on delivery costs so I'm a bit wary.

neckedit · 24-07-2012 9:30pm

jacothelad wrote: »

Yes. I'm happy to take it at that price depending on the postage of course. I got really, really screwed a while back on delivery costs so I'm a bit wary.

Cool Jaco, I replied to you on adverts, As I said there I can't see it being to dear to post to the north.

porterbelly · 24-07-2012 10:40pm

I wouldn't be getting too excited at the progress of Caldwell just yet. As has been pointed out already, the Bath pack was pure muck for most of the season which makes it difficult to judge him. Their front row was poor, Atwood's form fell off a cliff, and Hooper missed a good chunk of the season, even if he's just am average Premiership plodder. Taylor is an imposter of a player

Next season will tell a lot for him. He really has improved his discipline. If he can kick on again next year then Ulster should really look at getting him back. He's a massive physical speciman and along with Henderson coming through, they could have a big impact and make the succession of Muller pretty seamless

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