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Potential SHTF scenarios & tinfoil hat thread (Please read post 1)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭the monk5845


    here is something for those preping for disease outbreaks sounds like it could get worse. it is very bad for causing sudden death in children by attacking the central nervous system


    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/deadly-virus-forces-closure-of-schools-across-south-east-asia-7962402.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    These stories keep surfacing, you have the whooping cough, tuberculosis, H1N1, and more, its only a matter of time before we run into one we can't handle. Watch this space.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    Someone should tell the yanks we'll gladly take some drought off their hands. They won't have to pay much to get rid of it


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    In every tragic mass shooting — Virginia Tech, Columbine and Aurora, Colo.’s deadly theater massacre on Friday — there are survivors — a fortunate few who managed to escape, hide or fool the shooters by playing dead.

    Which raises the question: what can you do to survive if the unthinkable happens to you?

    “Whether you are a 7-year-old child or a 70-year-old grandmother or grandfather, there are things that you can do to increase your chances of surviving,” said Eric Greitens, a former navy seal and police trainer.

    Whether you should you hide in place or make a run for it, Greitens said it depends on the situation — the farther you are from the shooter, the better your odds of escaping.

    But if that is not a reasonable option, he said the next best move is to protect yourself by hiding or getting behind something — a wall, a desk, anything between you and the gunman.

    “You might be hidden behind seats in a movie theater…the active shooter can’t see you but those seats don’t provide cover,” said Greitens.

    He said those seats those seats don’t protect you from bullets as someone can shoot through those seats.

    So if you cannot get away or hide, should you attack?

    “Most people should try to evacuate but if you are faced with someone and they are two or three feet away and they’ve been killing other people, you want to viciously and aggressively attack because your life depends on it,” said Greitens.

    But experts disagree on whether playing dead is a good idea.

    “I do not suggest playing dead but if you are really close to an active shooter you want to be an active survivor…if you are active survivor with people around you…your chances of survival are much higher,” Greitens said.
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/07/aurora-colorado-shooting-how-to-survive-the-unthinkable/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rhinocharge


    Severe climate change

    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=CC-20120726-35934-GRL

    Futher details here:
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/07/120725-greenland-ice-sheet-melt-satellites-nasa-space-science/
    Scientists estimate that if all of Greenland's ice sheet were to melt, the global sea level would rise by 23 feet (7 meters).

    & here:
    http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/24jul_greenland/

    Flood Map available here:
    http://flood.firetree.net/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rhinocharge


    Update:
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=FL-20120728-35957-GRL
    The water most likely came from melting of the ice sheet - rather than an ice-dammed lake bursting or glacial lake drainage - as the high discharge was maintained for so long, Forster said. The flooding follows reports that 97 percent of Greenland's ice sheets thawed on the surface, according to satellite measurements. Only four days before, just 40 percent of the surface ice layer was thawing.
    The melting characteristics of such a huge ice sheet - spanning 656,000 square miles (1.7 million square kilometers) - is important for various reasons, particularly its potential effect on sea levels. If melted completely, the Greenland ice sheet could contribute 23 feet (7 meters) to global sea-level rise, according to a 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

    & just to add insult to injury.
    a massive iceberg that recently broke away from one of Greenland's largest glaciers is making its way downstream and toward the open ocean, as shown by a new satellite photo. The drifting island of ice split from the Petermann Glacier's ice shelf - the front end of a glacier, which hangs off the land and floats on the ocean. The newly birthed berg is estimated to be about 46 square miles (120 square kilometers), and finally broke away from the floating tongue of ice on Monday, July 16.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭touts


    Ebola is loose in Kampala. Is this the first time there has been an outbreak in a large city. And Uganda is a major target for Irish Aid so there are lots of Irish workers based there.

    m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19048998


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭RUCKING FETARD


    ^^^Was reading about that the other day, I thought Ebola was near certain death but it's only like 50/50.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    but it's only like 50/50.

    That all? I'm off to lick a monkey :D


    (Sorry, I couldn't help myself :o )


    (And that's 10k!)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭wolfeye


    A new flu virus identified in American harbour seals has the potential to pass to other mammals, including humans, say experts.

    Once in a seal which is a mammal the virus can be passed to humans easily enough i reckon.

    http://www.independent.ie/health/health-news/seal-flu-could-pose-risk-to-humans-3186351.html

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19055961


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    I know a fella who got swine flu, he was in bed for 3 weeks! He was out of it, crazy stuff. Hope this doesnt end up breaking out like that did


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    A fatal tale of drowning in Beijing has caused a surge in the sale of survival tools online, as many residents feared a repeat of the weekend’s downpour.

    Ding Zhijian, a 34-year old magazine editor, became trapped in his car on Saturday during Beijing’s heavy storms, according to local media. The water pressure prevented Mr. Ding from opening his door and his vehicle windows refused to open, according to the account. He drowned before he was rescued.

    Full article here http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2012/07/26/beijing-flood-fears-prompt-run-on-survival-tools/

    and the product they're all buying up
    http://www.autogeek.net/rekeesto.html

    And here's the video for using the headrest to break the window (there are conflicting opinions on if this works or not).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    That will work, the weakest part of toughened glass is the edge of it and any sort of pressure will cause it to shatter like that. You would want to be very weak to not be able to do it with the steel tip off the umbrella tho!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭wolfeye


    A tactical tomahawk would handy for situations like that.
    Even if the car crashed you could hack your way out or hack your way in depending on the situation.
    Also if a house fire and the widows were locked you'd break through easily enough or break through the plaster board walls or break though bedroom doors locked from the other side..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    I wouldnt fancy explaining to a judge that i had a tactical tamahawk in my car when stopped by the guards "incase i drove into a flood and needed to break my window"! Haha

    I had a folder knife that had a steel point on the handle and a hook for cutting the likes of a seatbelt that i usd to have on my sunvisor. It was nicked :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭wolfeye


    I cant see a problem with having one in a car,different if walking around in public with it hanging off your belt.
    As far as i see an axe is a tool,keep it in a tool box sheathed.
    If its a tool i dont think its classed as an offensive weapon?

    Yup my survial knife has also a steel pommel for breaking glass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    wolfeye wrote: »
    If its a tool i dont think its classed as an offensive weapon?

    It is yeah. I saw some lad in the newspaper get a sentence recently because he couldn't adequately explain the hammer in his car boot. Was well known yada yada but still, the precedent is clear there. If you don't have a good reason for carrying it, don't (IMO).

    I left my swiss at home on Saturday night when I went out for a few drinks for example. I had gotten used to always having it with me and as a parent / geek I think the "cybertool" swiss army knife could be reasonably explained (the scissors has been used so often on children's nails that the spring broke :D). Not so explainable in the boozer on a Saturday night mind you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭wolfeye


    Well in a post shtf enviorment good tools save lives.
    In a disaster situation when trying to save ones life or others i dont think anyone is going to say hey you cant use that axe its an offensive weapon.

    I'll have a Tuagh -cath in my mad max car!:P

    Pre Shft well i guess thats a different story..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭touts


    I have one of those Aldi multi-tools in my car (like a cheap leatherman). So far (in the last few months since I bought it) I have used it to cut the cable ties off a hubcap to fix a flat tire and unscrew the screws holding the headlight in place so I could change a blown bulb. Both of those are essential safety tasks and both needed the tool and any guard/judge will understand that. And to be honest having a reasonable tool like that in the glovebox is far better prepping than having a 15 inch machete in the boot. No point being able to fight your way through a hoard of zombies if you get creamed by a granny in a micra as you struggle to remove a hubcap or change light bulbs on the side of the road on a dark night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    I have an L shaped wheel brace. I keep it in the side pocket of the drivers door, don't ask me why, it just ended up there one day and has stayed put since. Good job if a window needs breaking, and you've a good reason for having it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    I know a fella who got swine flu, he was in bed for 3 weeks! He was out of it, crazy stuff. Hope this doesnt end up breaking out like that did
    Nah ebola really isn't that dangerous unless you catch it. The nightmare scenario is a disease of high communicability and a long gestation period, before it turns lethal. Ebola kills people too quickly and obviously to be a serious widespread threat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭RUCKING FETARD


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Nah ebola really isn't that dangerous unless you catch it.
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    :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    "Waves of violence" predicted in the US by mathematician in 2020:
    Sometimes, history really does seem to repeat itself. After the US Civil War, for example, a wave of urban violence fuelled by ethnic and class resentment swept across the country, peaking in about 1870. Internal strife spiked again in around 1920, when race riots, workers' strikes and a surge of anti-Communist feeling led many people to think that revolution was imminent. And in around 1970, unrest crested once more, with violent student demonstrations, political assassinations, riots and terrorism (see 'Cycles of violence').

    To Peter Turchin, who studies population dynamics at the University of Connecticut in Storrs, the appearance of three peaks of political instability at roughly 50-year intervals is not a coincidence. For the past 15 years, Turchin has been taking the mathematical techniques that once allowed him to track predator–prey cycles in forest ecosystems, and applying them to human history. He has analysed historical records on economic activity, demographic trends and outbursts of violence in the United States, and has come to the conclusion that a new wave of internal strife is already on its way. The peak should occur in about 2020, he says, and will probably be at least as high as the one in around 1970. “I hope it won't be as bad as 1870,” he adds.
    Maybe its a case of everything looking like a nail when all you have is a hammer, but interesting nonetheless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Anyone in the Howth to Clontarf area of north Dublin are warned not to use tap water for drinking or cooking
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/more-than-1000-homes-affected-by-dublin-water-notice-561996.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    grapeape wrote: »
    Anyone in the Howth to Clontarf area of north Dublin are warned not to use tap water for drinking or cooking
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/more-than-1000-homes-affected-by-dublin-water-notice-561996.html

    Some more Info
    http://www.clontarf.ie/news/urgent-major-water-supply-disruption-for-clontarf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rhinocharge


    Epidemic Hazard in Pakistan on Friday, 10 August, 2012 at 03:28
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20120810-36116-PAK

    Epidemic Hazard in Hungary on Friday, 10 August, 2012 at 15:44
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_summary&edis_id=EH-20120810-36124-HUN


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rhinocharge


    5.3 Mid Atlantic Earthquake
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=seism_index&rid=265142
    Map Area (you'll have to lower the view size to see the overall position):
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/index.php?pageid=seism_map&rid=265142

    6.3 Iran Earthquake
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_summary&edis_id=EQ-20120811-36139-IRN
    Two strong earthquakes have struck north-western Iran, leaving at least 50 people dead and hundreds more injured, officials say. The quakes struck near the city of Tabriz and the town of Ahar, but most of the casualties are thought to be in outlying villages. Reports say phone lines to many villages have been cut off, making rescue efforts harder. The US Geological Service measured the quakes at magnitude 6.4 and 6.3. "The quake has created huge panic among the people," one resident of Tabriz told the BBC. "Everyone has rushed to the streets and the sirens of ambulances are everywhere."

    Full RSOE EDIS Emergency & Diasaster can be viewed here:
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php#

    Mods can we sticky this map. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox




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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Balls, I was hoping to get some night fishing in the bay tonight, any word on what time it might hit? I've been flat out so far this summer so this was to be a little holiday when the phone isn't ringing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Balls, I was hoping to get some night fishing in the bay tonight, any word on what time it might hit? I've been flat out so far this summer so this was to be a little holiday when the phone isn't ringing.

    Looking at the forecast its to be raining on and off from 10 tonight and from 5am its non stop until Thursday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    Ghb and rain gear comin to work with me tomorrow, camping stove and a bit of extra grub just incase the weather stops traffic which iv seen before when it hasnt been as bad as they sat tomorrow will be


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    High tide's at 4am, I was planning on heading out around 2-3am so I guess that's not going to happen, chop keeps them offshore. I was watching a heron guzzling sprats by the bucket in the rock pools only yesterday, it was looking like a good season. And sure enough, the ravens are gathered on every rooftop and tree branch within sight, a storm is indeed on its way. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Ghb and rain gear comin to work with me tomorrow, camping stove and a bit of extra grub just incase the weather stops traffic which iv seen before when it hasnt been as bad as they sat tomorrow will be
    See roads are closed in Waterford due to landslides and the rail got hit by lighting yesterday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭RUCKING FETARD


    grapeape wrote: »
    They should have checked to see if the birds were eating them, noobs.:pac::p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    Wellies went back in the car last weekend, First Aid Kit went back in this morning. I work 12KM from home but the last time we had bad flooding it took me over 2 hours to get home. At least I can walk home with rain jacket and wellies if I get stranded tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox




  • Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭madmaxi


    Biological Hazard in United Kingdom on Friday, 17 August, 2012 at 13:58

    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=BH-20120817-36219-GBR
    A drug user has died after being infected with anthrax, health experts said. The Health Protection Agency said that a person who injected drugs died in hospital in Blackpool. The name of the person or the hospital has not been disclosed. The HPA said the source of the infection is presumed to be contaminated heroin. The news comes after a spate of cases in Europe since early June. The HPA said it is 'unclear' whether the case in Blackpool and another case in Scotland - which was confirmed at the end of July - are linked to the European outbreak


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  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭Danpad


    Anybody got any fellow preppers within your locality who you discuss plans with? Or do you stay low profile so as not to draw attention to yourself in the event of an 'oh balls!" situation. I've 2 neighbours on board. One is a jack of all trades who can make/fix everything in the world (makes me sick the way he can turn his hand to anything) and the other is ex military. Once every few months we get together for a few pints and talk about how we'd try secure our road/homes/families etc and with the world getting madder and madder we'd love to try and see if anyone else in our little estate are game ball but to be honest we're afraid of outing ourselves and our reserves/plans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭Cardinal Richelieu


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    I wouldn't take too much of that to heart, when you look at longer averages it's not bleak at all.

    http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=wheat&months=120&commodity=soybeans

    Starting to climb, already reports that livestock farmers have started to de-stock to reduce feed costs. Meat prices should drop in the short term but steadily increase when the glut passes through the system. The European baking sector is dependent on North American wheat.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/20/us-usa-drought-idUSBRE86F1D420120720


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Earthquake Southern California 4.9 Magnitude
    http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/r...202921.php


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    A fascinating piece about how a few warmongers can kick off a war without sanction from their political masters. It's not the federal government the conspiracy theorists need to beware of in the US, it's the top military men.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/sunk/2012/08/21/96209788-cebd-11e1-aa14-708bac2c7ee9_story.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭wolfeye


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    A fascinating piece about how a few warmongers can kick off a war without sanction from their political masters. It's not the federal government the conspiracy theorists need to beware of in the US, it's the top military men.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/sunk/2012/08/21/96209788-cebd-11e1-aa14-708bac2c7ee9_story.html


    U.S.A needs massive amounts of imported oil to power its economy now and more so into the future.
    Iran has vast oil reseves and it's only a matter of time until they find an "excuse" to go into Iran to form a U.S.A friendly goverment to obtain this oil.
    The middle East is a delicate balancing act to keep the oil wells pumping more and more oil for export,and then try to get it safely out of the region.
    Imported oil dependncy for the U.S.A is under national security.
    It not only needs oil to fuel its economy but to fuel its military.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    wolfeye wrote: »
    U.S.A needs massive amounts of imported oil to power its economy now and more so into the future.
    Iran has vast oil reseves and it's only a matter of time until they find an "excuse" to go into Iran to form a U.S.A friendly goverment to obtain this oil.
    The middle East is a delicate balancing act to keep the oil wells pumping more and more oil for export,and then try to get it safely out of the region.
    Imported oil dependncy for the U.S.A is under national security.
    It not only needs oil to fuel its economy but to fuel its military.

    Very true of course, but interestingly, becoming less so and some in the US are aiming for energy independence by 2020.

    http://www.eia.gov/energy_in_brief/foreign_oil_dependence.cfm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭wolfeye


    I reckon at the moment because of the economic downturn The U.S.A is consuming less oil than it would be,but when the economy takes off again the consumption of oil will go though the roof.
    Plus the U.S.A will be competing with China and india and developing countries for this oil.
    Plus canada, ,Venezula,nigeria and mexico as their economies grow they will consume more and export less.
    So oil in the persian gulf will become even more important.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rhinocharge


    Biological Hazard in Ireland on Friday, 31 August, 2012
    Portuguese men-of-war, which look like jellyfish and whose sting can cause severe pain and, in rare cases, death in humans, has been seen on beaches in Waterford and Cork, and may yet reach Kerry coasts. The Irish Water Safety organisation yesterday warned swimmers, surfers and other beach users that Portuguese men-of- war have been seen in Tramore, Ardmore, Inchydoney and Schull, and that there is a risk they may drift farther north. The invertebrate and carnivore creature is a siphonophore, which means it is made up of a colony of organisms working together. Its float is about 30cm long and 13cm wide and it has tentacles that can reach 50m in length. The stinging venom-filled nematocysts in the tentacles cause severe pain to humans, leaving whip-like red welts on the skin. A sting may lead to an allergic reaction. There can also be serious effects, including fever, shock, and interference with heart and lung function. Stings may also cause death, although this is extremely rare.

    Link: http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=BH-20120831-36402-IRL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Agent_47


    http://www.thejournal.ie/yosemite-deadly-virus-581475-Sep2012/

    scary stuff, mouse bourne virus, stayed in one of these in 1995.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rhinocharge


    Epidemic Hazard in USA on Wednesday, 29 August, 2012
    In the first confirmed case of bubonic plague in Colorado since 2006, an Archuleta County resident has tested positive for the disease. The last human case in Archuleta County, which borders on New Mexico, was in 1998. It is believed that the person contracted the plague during a family outing in the Cimarrona Campground northwest of Pagosa Springs, but the investigation is ongoing, according to a news release from the San Juan Basin Health Department. The gender and age of the victim were not released, the paper reported. In 2006, Colorado had four cases of plague, all in La Plata County, Joe Fowler, a disease-control nurse with the San Juan Basin Health Department said. Most human cases of plague tend to occur in rural areas in two regions — northern Arizona and New Mexico and southern Colorado or in California, southern Oregon and western Nevada. One human case has been reported in New Mexico so far this year - in a 78-year-old Torrance County man who contracted the disease in May, in what state health officials called the nation’s first human plague case of the year
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20120829-36376-USA

    &

    Epidemic Hazard in Russia [Asia] on Monday, 27 August, 2012

    An anthrax outbreak in a Siberian village left one person dead and 10 others hospitalized as the Russian government declared a state of emergency in the area in a bid to prevent an epidemic. There were at least two other confirmed cases of anthrax infection in the village of Druzhba in the Altai region, reported an unidentified officials. The death was reported in a statement today by the Moscow-based Emergency Situations Ministry, which didn’t say whether it was caused by anthrax. Roads around the village have been closed off, Yevgenia Belikova, a spokeswoman for investigators in Altai. Veterinary officials killed several heads of cattle infected with anthrax and vaccinated another 187, as well as 21 horses and pigs, the Altai region’s press office said on its website. The anthrax outbreak is “under control and localized,” Deputy Governor Daniil Bessarabov said in the statement. The anthrax bacteria, known as Bacillus anthracis, occurs most commonly in cattle, sheep and goats and can be lethal to humans. The bacteria, which can cause skin infections and more severe lung infections, may survive in soil decades after an outbreak.
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20120827-36337-RUS


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Here's a real nightmare for any property owners (or tenants) that is unlikely, but not impossible, to happen here in Ireland.

    http://www.pressherald.com/news/US-homes-cracking-due-to-drought-parched-soil-.html


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