Guns N' Roses Discussion Thread

EyesClosed · 25-05-2012 3:52pm

Its not guns though, its a lad playing guns songs

Motley Crue · 29-05-2012 9:58am

darryn wrote: »

Its not guns though, its a lad playing guns songs

A talented lad playing guns songs

And there's a whole new scale of what he's brought to the band in terms of musicianship and showmanship to be perfectly honest

EyesClosed · 29-05-2012 10:06am

Motley Crue wrote: »

A talented lad playing guns songs

And there's a whole new scale of what he's brought to the band in terms of musicianship and showmanship to be perfectly honest

Yea but if I wanted to see guns, I wouldn't care who was playing guitar, its basically the Axl show, don't get me wrong I know the band are talented, but that's not really the point

Furious-Red · 30-05-2012 7:01pm

Guns N' Roses are notorious for being late onstage, but they tested their fans' patience to the limit last night (May 29) by not taking to the stage until after 11pm (GMT).

The band were performing at Manchester's Arena and were due on at 10pm (GMT), however, they didn't actually hit the stage until over an hour later.

Although they were very late, the band still played a 33-song, three hour show, which finished up after 2.15am. This was despite being told by organisers that they had to finish by 11pm. By the end, there were reportedly only 6,000 in the venue, 10,000 less than the arena's capacity.

Many ticket goers were angry and took to Twitter to protest. Alison Parker, who was at the gig, tweeted: "I'm angry. Guns N' Roses? No Goons and Losers. Had to leave for last train before they even graced us with their presence. Disgusted." A crowd member also reportedly vented their anger by hurling a pint at Axl Rose, which struck him during 'Welcome To The Jungle'.

However, the band's official Twitter paid no mind to the mass walkout, simply writing: "A tip of the hat to the good folk at the Manchester Arena. To say Manchester rocks is an understatement! London calling!"

Guns N' Roses end their UK tour with two nights at London's O2 Arena, starting tomorrow (May 31) and finishing on Friday (June 1).

Whiplash · 30-05-2012 7:08pm

jesus what is it with axl always getting hit with something during welcome to the jungle eh

jack presley · 30-05-2012 7:31pm

http://www.planetrock.com/news/rock-news/gnr-planned-late-finish-in-glasgow/

Denied by the band of course but apparently these late starts aren't always unplanned as they've always claimed.

gnfnrhead · 30-05-2012 8:54pm

If you're going to a Guns N' Roses concert and expect them on early, you're an idiot who didnt bother to do an ounce of research before hand.. Very, very, very rarely do they be on stage before 10:30. It's always been like that. You should expect it. Some aul one was upset at them being late, it's a nothing story.

Shreddy Krueger · 31-05-2012 11:54pm

According to twitter Izzy joined them onstage tonight in London

lord lucan · 01-06-2012 12:20am

gnfnrhead wrote: »

If you're going to a Guns N' Roses concert and expect them on early, you're an idiot who didnt bother to do an ounce of research before hand..

Steady on,less of the attitude.

The way i see it,if the band are always going to be late then they should print it on the tickets,eg.

Doors Open:18.30

XXXXXX:19.00

XXXXXX:20.15

GN'R:22.00

Will it happen,no. It would kill ticket sales as the casual fans would stay away knowing it would cost them more to get home,especially midweek.It'd be commercial suicide by the band and promoters.

Not everyone spends their days tracking GN'R on the internet. Many go as they think it'll be a good night out and a chance to hear 'the hits'. With the exception of a couple of my favourite bands i never look to see what they're playing on tour as the setlist is half the surprise.Most,with the exception of hardcore fans,won't look at other shows for setlists and what time they hit the stage. Granted 2010 increased coverage of this phenomena but many probably thought it was a once off.

gnfnrhead · 01-06-2012 12:27am

lord lucan wrote: »

Steady on,less of the attitude.

The way i see it,if the band are always going to be late then they should print it on the tickets,eg.

Doors Open:18.30

XXXXXX:19.00

XXXXXX:20.15

GN'R:22.00

Will it happen,no. It would kill ticket sales as the casual fans would stay away knowing it would cost them more to get home,especially midweek.It'd be commercial suicide by the band and promoters.

Not everyone spends their days tracking GN'R on the internet. Many go as they think it'll be a good night out and a chance to hear 'the hits'. With the exception of a couple of my favourite bands i never look to see what they're playing on tour as the setlist is half the surprise.Most,with the exception of hardcore fans,won't look at other shows for setlists and what time they hit the stage. Granted 2010 increased coverage of this phenomena but many probably thought it was a once off.

Any time I go to a concert, I have a quick look online (literally less than five minutes) to see around what time they came on stage at in their last few shows. I'd have thought that was simply common sense.

Even if that made too much sense, surely you would want to know what time you can expect it to be finished at so you can work out how you are getting home?

lord lucan · 01-06-2012 12:32am

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Any time I go to a concert, I have a quick look online (literally less than five minutes) to see around what time they came on stage at in their last few shows. I'd have thought that was simply common sense.

Even if that made too much sense, surely you would want to know what time you can expect it to be finished at so you can work out how you are getting home?

Given that 99% of the shows i've ever been to here are over by 23.00 i've never felt the need to check. I can only ever recall a couple of shows that have ran over and they were due to technical reasons that were addressed over the PA by band reps/promoter.

giant_midget · 01-06-2012 9:36am

Izzy played 5 songs last night, Here is the link with pics.

http://www.hennemusic.com/2012/05/photos-izzy-stradlin-joins-guns-n-roses.html

thegreengoblin · 01-06-2012 10:52am

And here's a clip of 14 Years. The song is all over the shop, they're not exactly singing off the same hymn sheet! But nice to see it getting an airing after all these years anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1PXQvoatcI

No doubt some fans will be thinking 'why didn't Izzy do the Hall of Fame?'
But there's a bit of a difference between doing a few songs at the O2 in London and playing at an awards show in front of mostly record industry execs and the likes.
Guess it's that old Indiana thing goin on there.....

Bluefoam · 01-06-2012 11:28am

thegreengoblin wrote: »

No doubt some fans will be thinking 'why didn't Izzy do the Hall of Fame?'
But there's a bit of a difference between doing a few songs at the O2 in London and playing at an awards show in front of mostly record industry execs and the likes.
Guess it's that old Indiana thing goin on there.....

Rumour has it that Axle pays him off...

thegreengoblin · 01-06-2012 7:17pm

It seems the Great One has banned people from wearing Slash t-shirts at GNR gigs LOL. What a sap. I'd love it if if he saw some lad with long curly black hair in the crowd and yelled out 'I'm taking you to the floor mother****er!' before leaping on him.

http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/64110?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

lord lucan · 01-06-2012 7:26pm

thegreengoblin wrote: »

It seems the Great One has banned people from wearing Slash t-shirts at GNR gigs LOL. What a sap. I'd love it if if he saw some lad with long curly black hair in the crowd and yelled out 'I'm taking you to the floor mother****er!' before leaping on him.

http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/64110?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

This came up before iirc,maybe 2/3 years ago in the US. I thought it was one of them silly urban myths tbh.

Edit: It was Canada 2 years ago. http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/24/slash-guns-and-roses-axl-rose-clothing-shirts-hat/

gnfnrhead · 01-06-2012 7:29pm

lord lucan wrote: »

This came up before iirc,maybe 2/3 years ago in the US. I thought it was one of them silly urban myths tbh.

Longer than that. I think it first came up with the original return in 2001/2002.

Furious-Red · 06-06-2012 3:59pm

Local police are reporting that Guns N' Roses frontman Axl Rose was robbed of three gold-and-diamond necklaces worth $200,000 after the band's recent show in Paris.

A spokesman of local police stated Rose was fuming after the theft during a private gathering after the band’s show.

http://www.alterthepress.com/2012/06/guns-n-roses-axl-rose-robbed-in-paris.html

rednik · 06-06-2012 4:03pm

Pity they didn't get his watch, just to see what time it is set for !!!.

CodyJarrett · 09-06-2012 2:41pm

thegreengoblin wrote: »

It seems the Great One has banned people from wearing Slash t-shirts at GNR gigs LOL. What a sap. I'd love it if if he saw some lad with long curly black hair in the crowd and yelled out 'I'm taking you to the floor mother****er!' before leaping on him.

http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/64110?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Would well believe that security were instructed in that regard, as he has had fans thrown out of gigs before for wearing Slash t-shirts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwdQhXw5sZ4

Motley Crue · 09-06-2012 3:29pm

whiplashed wrote: »

Would well believe that security were instructed in that regard, as he has had fans thrown out of gigs before for wearing Slash t-shirts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwdQhXw5sZ4

In fairness this clip is over 10 years old at this stage, so he might not be so inclined to make such a public statement, at least not to an audience member during a gig

ozzy jr · 21-07-2012 6:56pm

Appetite for Destruction 25 years old today

:cool:

Itssoeasy · 22-07-2012 12:44am

Ron doesn't sound happy if his tweets are a true reflection of his feelings. He sounds pissed off.

gnfnrhead · 22-07-2012 12:46am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Ron doesn't sound happy if his tweets are a true reflection of his feelings. He sounds pissed off.

I refuse to use twitter. What's it about?

Itssoeasy · 22-07-2012 1:53am

gnfnrhead wrote: »

I refuse to use twitter. What's it about?

@bumblefoot: Success without a feeling of integrity, or happiness, is not success. To me. We all have to re-evaluate our compromises once in a while...

@bumblefoot: Crew working dangerously nonstop due to added show. Not ok with that... (Hey, if anyone has a prob with my honesty *UNFOLLOW* me.)

@bumblefoot: Wow. Diverted without info (or gear or clothes or sleep) to play a wedding in France. Yep. Guess it's not *one show left*...

@bumblefoot: One. More. ****ING. Show. One more.

gnfnrhead · 22-07-2012 2:03am

He was having trouble with his back before the Euro tour started, wasn't he? Can't imagine he is too happy with shows getting added with probably no notice. I'm guessing he was planning on some down time to let his back recover from such a long tour.

Bluefoam · 22-07-2012 5:56am

My spidey senses tell me that Axles HR department might be busy finding another contract guitar player...

BTW. Getting G'n R to play at your wedding is a good idea, but I was able to find another cover band for allot less money for a 30th birthday party recently...

Motley Crue · 22-07-2012 8:37am

gnfnrhead wrote: »

He was having trouble with his back before the Euro tour started, wasn't he? Can't imagine he is too happy with shows getting added with probably no notice. I'm guessing he was planning on some down time to let his back recover from such a long tour.

A lot of the pain in his back is gone now, thankfully he was able to see a doctor when he was in the UK, and was given a successful course of treatement which greatly helped his recouperation - he left the UK feeling 1000% better then when he came in

Ron's problem is his honesty, he's a genuinely nice guy, and when you've been on the road for almost three months living out of suitcases - despite how much high profile and comfort this kind of tour brings - you're gonna be slightly pissed off if there is one more show or if you get diverted to France or something.

In any case, GNR "fans" also hold a large percentage of people who just cannot take bad news in any form, anything which even slightly casts a negative comment over the band is attacked...which is completely unfair and totally unrealistic, because not everything is rosey in the GNR world.

In any case, last show in Spain today, cannot believe the European tour is almost over. Feels like so long ago now when I saw them in Dublin and the UK earlier this year....

For me, one of the highlights of this tour has been Izzy's appearance in the 02 to perform 14 Years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88DcQ1R0LFE

ahsured · 22-07-2012 11:30pm

Does anyone remember those bootleg guns and roses tapes during the 80s
I think I bought one called good or somefink
You could buy them on any corner of the capital,the same guy
used to travel the country selling those necklases with skulls
crosses etc on them.

Is he still around

Itssoeasy · 13-08-2012 11:45pm

GNR are playing twelve nights in las Vegas in October and november.

Mental Mickey · 14-08-2012 9:58am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

GNR are playing twelve nights in las Vegas in October and november.

Bet half of em get cancelled, and the other half start late.

EyesClosed · 14-08-2012 10:29am

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Bet half of em get cancelled, and the other half start late.

Or Axl loses his voice, well what's left of his voice

jack presley · 14-08-2012 10:42am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

GNR are playing twelve nights in las Vegas in October and november.

So it's official. They've become a cabaret act.

It'll probably suit them though. They're obviously aiming at the tourists and not the locals and most of them will be staying on the strip so there won't be complaints about late starts etc as the fans won't be in a rush to make last buses or trains. It'll just be an excuse to drink/gamble more. So it's probably a win-win all around.

I never thought Axl would become the next Donnie Osmond though

Mental Mickey · 14-08-2012 11:12am

jack presley wrote: »

So it's official. They've become a cabaret act.

It'll probably suit them though. They're obviously aiming at the tourists and not the locals and most of them will be staying on the strip so there won't be complaints about late starts etc as the fans won't be in a rush to make last buses or trains. It'll just be an excuse to drink/gamble more. So it's probably a win-win all around.

I never thought Axl would become the next Donnie Osmond though

He has the teeth.

RVD420 · 22-08-2012 4:28pm

Guns N’ Roses Fan Wants to Use $232 Million Lottery Winnings to Reunite Band

Axl Rose has balked many a time at the possibility of reuniting the original Guns N’ Roses lineup, but that hasn’t kept one of the band’s fans from putting together a very lucrative offer.

The Sun reports that Adrian Bayford just won the U.K. EuroMillions lottery and has stated that he would like to use the $232 million to attempt to reunite the group. “I’d have to get Guns N’ Roses together. I’m a real fan.”

Guns N’ Roses began in 1987 with their ‘Appetite for Destruction’ album, but drummer Steven Adler was fired in 1990. Izzy Stradlin left the band in 1991, with guitarist Slash exiting in 1995, and bassist Duff McKagan signing out in 1997.

While it may be Bayford’s wish, Slash recently stated in an interview that he felt the time had passed for a reunion of the original lineup. He explained, “I think that time is sort of passed at this point, but there was a period where big wads of cash were shaking in our direction. I think the concept of getting the band back together based on money is not going to happen.”

Bayford and his wife Gillian have now joined the U.K.’s Top 1000 Rich List. If they were listed amongst musicians, the Bayford family would currently be slotted between Keith Richards and Tom Jones.

Never gonna happen, the only thing that'll get the old band on the same stage together again is Photoshop.

karaokeman · 22-08-2012 4:48pm

RVD420 wrote: »

Never gonna happen, the only thing that'll get the old band on the same stage together again is Photoshop.

I got excited when I read the title, but then I saw "The Sun":mad:

MHalberstram · 22-08-2012 11:42pm

"Not in this lifetime." - W. Axl Rose

Motley Crue · 23-08-2012 9:57am

karaokeman wrote: »

I got excited when I read the title, but then I saw "The Sun":mad:

Interesting thing he has done though...I mean, are your Lottery winnings actually worth seeing a group of five musicians playing instruments? No...they're not, in fact, not even if I could bring people back from the dead would I pay that money to reunite the Beatles...or have Jim Morrison front the Doors a final time...

No musician is worth that kind of money - not in the slightest....

ozzy jr · 23-08-2012 11:02am

Motley Crue wrote: »

Interesting thing he has done though...I mean, are your Lottery winnings actually worth seeing a group of five musicians playing instruments? No...they're not, in fact, not even if I could bring people back from the dead would I pay that money to reunite the Beatles...or have Jim Morrison front the Doors a final time...

No musician is worth that kind of money - not in the slightest....

I'd be too busy living the Rock n Roll lifestyle to worry about Axl :cool:

giant_midget · 23-08-2012 11:17am

Motley Crue wrote: »

Interesting thing he has done though...I mean, are your Lottery winnings actually worth seeing a group of five musicians playing instruments? No...they're not, in fact, not even if I could bring people back from the dead would I pay that money to reunite the Beatles...or have Jim Morrison front the Doors a final time...

No musician is worth that kind of money - not in the slightest....

He never said how much of the winnings he was perpared to spend on it. I doubt it will happen. Any money that this guy could put on the table would have been offered before to the AFD lineup if not more...Before a "reunion" would happen Axl and Slash need to talk, I think if they ever had a conversation they could end up being friends again. Just my 2c..

MHalberstram · 23-08-2012 12:19pm

It's just a catchy story. Given that Axl turned down $200million in the past to reunite I seriously doubt he'd entertain this guy, or that this guy actually realises he'd have to offer his entire winnings to garner even a smidgen of interest, if even that.

Total non story.

scudzilla · 24-08-2012 5:32am

Motley Crue wrote: »

Interesting thing he has done though...I mean, are your Lottery winnings actually worth seeing a group of five musicians playing instruments? No...they're not, in fact, not even if I could bring people back from the dead would I pay that money to reunite the Beatles...or have Jim Morrison front the Doors a final time...

No musician is worth that kind of money - not in the slightest....

So you've won 150million on the lotto, if they all agreed, would you have GnR ORIGINAL line up play a one off gig in your local pub for 20million?

MHalberstram · 24-08-2012 11:08am

scudzilla wrote: »

So you've won 150million on the lotto, if they all agreed, would you have GnR ORIGINAL line up play a one off gig in your local pub for 20million?

Both Slash and Axl have turned down $200million to reunite and have said that money is not the issue. After the Hall of Fame I seriously doubt it will ever happen.

6ftTallGuy · 04-09-2012 3:07pm

I'm guessing Izzy will make some sort of appearance at the Vegas residency, would love it to if Axl brought in an orchestra for songs like November Rain, Estranged & There Was A Time

Motley Crue · 04-09-2012 7:57pm

scudzilla wrote: »

So you've won 150million on the lotto, if they all agreed, would you have GnR ORIGINAL line up play a one off gig in your local pub for 20million?

No, because I honestly don't believe it's worth it.

I literally couldn't give a **** whether Slash or Axl perform together ever again, I don't care and I consider myself a big fan of Guns N' Roses.

To me, classic GNR is the Illusion era touring, the fan atmosphere, the crowds of people getting out on the road and making things happen, the two albums of material, the videos, the hype and the image. That can never be recreated - it was a time and a place - and sadly one I was too young to ever experience. I only go to GNR shows now to catch a sense of that nostalgia that people at the time felt.

It sounds sad to admit this, but when I was growing up, I was watching VHS videos and listening to bootleg tapes from 10 years before that...for me...there wasn't a single band around when I was 15 who could make me feel about music the way I feel when I put on Use Your Illusions. I put it on today and I felt like that 15 year old kid again, and I'm 27...and I'm listening to this music thinking "I wasn't around when it was launched, I never saw them in Slane in 1992...but, for me....it gave me the same feelings..."

I met Bumblefoot in Dublin, and then again in Newcastle, this past May...and I'm chatting away to him about 2006 and the RDS and when I went to London to see GNR...and afterwards, I'm thinking, I know more intimate details about his job then he does...for him, it's a job (one he likes, one he's good at, sure) and he even had to ask me when another fan asked where the band had played before Dublin, he'd forgotten in the moment that he'd just been to Russia...it's just one long stream of flights and hotel rooms for these guys....

It says a lot about the music Industry that in 20 years we just haven't found something that can replace the energy and vibe of Axl Rose. Either they are out there and nobody will take a chance on them, or this snowball of media and enterprise took five heroin addicts and forced them onstage long enough to tolerate each other. I saw a documentary with Andy Moran, the director of Garden of Eden among many others, the other day...and he said that when they were onstage playing they were happy...it was everything else they couldn't take

Sounds stupid maybe, I dunno....I'm just glad that Axl sorted his terrible voice problems out because people give him flack for being bad in 2002 and 2006...but he has improved so much to where he is now....I just wish his timekeeping was kept in order.

Motley Crue · 08-09-2012 8:28pm

How things have changed, eh, remember when GNR were playing nothing and going nowhere....and look at them....

Neil Young, Guns N’ Roses Lead 2012 Bridge School Benefit Concert Lineup

Neil Young continues to draw the best in music for his annual Bridge School Benefit. Now in its 26th year, the benefit will feature Young and his band Crazy Horse headlining both nights, with primary support from Guns N’ Roses and Jack White.

The lineup was revealed late Friday night (Sept. 7), with Young, White, and GNR also being joined by the Flaming Lips, Sarah McLachlan, Foster the People, Lucinda Williams, Steve Martin and the Steep Canyon Rangers, k.d. lang and Siss Boom Bang, and Gary Clark Jr. on the bill.

The organization posted a video featuring some of the students at the Bridge School using their language technology to reveal the participants in the year’s event. The non-profit organization’s goal is to ensure that youths with severe speech and physical impairments achieve full participation in their communities through the use of augmentative and alternate means of communication and assistive technology applications.

The lineup was revealed once donations reached $10.000. Additional donations can be made for the Bridge School here. This year’s event takes place Oct. 20 and 21 in Hillsborough, Calif. Ticketing details will be announced soon.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/neil-young-guns-n-roses-2012-bridge-school-benefit/

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JkXpmcOrjf4#!

As long as Axl plays at least a special track or two to mark the occasion, something really important (like a new cover or an unheard acoustic version of an old song) then I think they have this one in the bag

Vegas might just be a warm up!!:D

scudzilla · 08-09-2012 8:32pm

Everytime i see someone has posted in this thread i get all excited and think Axl has died.......then i read it, and he hasn't, and i get sad

Motley Crue · 08-09-2012 8:37pm

scudzilla wrote: »

Everytime i see someone has posted in this thread i get all excited and think Axl has died.......then i read it, and he hasn't, and i get sad

Awh now come on skipper, play fair....

And besides it's normally only me who posts updates in this thread, especially where good news is concerned.....

MHalberstram · 13-09-2012 10:29pm

The official video for Better has leaked(its release was scrapped, probably because Axl threw a hissy fit when Robin left the band)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt8rTwMsfaA

gnfnrhead · 13-09-2012 10:52pm

A lot of that looks like it was fan made. Would expect a lot more than that from a professional production crew.

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