Champion Hurdle, 13-03-12

mdwexford · 23-02-2012 3:46pm

What does Henderson do to his hurdlers, they fcuking love getting injured weeks before the festival.

Race is cutting up badly.

premierstone · 23-02-2012 3:48pm

Zarkandar

mdwexford wrote: »

What does Henderson do to his hurdlers, they fcuking love getting injured weeks before the festival.

Race is cutting up badly.

Dont throw away any AP dockets just yet, Henderson has form as they say, and I noticed on BF the last few day a few punters trying to get Spirit Son matched at big odds, you just wouldnt know what he is up to tbh.

RichieLawlor · 23-02-2012 3:49pm

Zarkandar

mdwexford wrote: »

What does Henderson do to his hurdlers, they fcuking love getting injured weeks before the festival.

Race is cutting up badly.

Henderson obv has a huge bet on Hurricane Fly. JP needs to get Binocular out quickly.

RichieLawlor · 23-02-2012 3:50pm

Zarkandar

mdwexford wrote: »

What does Henderson do to his hurdlers

Well he has won 2 of the last 3 Champion Hurdles. So it's not that bad.

mdwexford · 23-02-2012 3:58pm

RichieLawlor wrote: »

Well he has won 2 of the last 3 Champion Hurdles. So it's not that bad.

And about 10 of them 10/1 or under have got injured within a few weeks of the race.

convert · 23-02-2012 5:39pm

Ok, people (so as not to be accused of being sexist) please stop attacking the poster or insulting people. Just be nice. If you can't be nice, just report the post and say nothing on thread! Please? Thanks.

UrbanSea · 23-02-2012 7:51pm

Grandouet

Delighted,I got on Binocular this morning before the news.

All I need now is for Hurricane Fly to strain something on the gallops.

RichieLawlor · 23-02-2012 8:10pm

Zarkandar

UrbanSea wrote: »

Delighted,I got on Binocular this morning before the news.

All I need now is for Hurricane Fly to strain something on the gallops.

I hope you strain something.

Im holding you personally responsible if something happens to HF and then i will hunt you down and harm you

UrbanSea · 23-02-2012 8:11pm

Grandouet

Hehehehe

premierstone · 23-02-2012 8:39pm

Zarkandar

UrbanSea wrote: »

Delighted,I got on Binocular this morning before the news.

All I need now is for Hurricane Fly to strain something on the gallops.

All joking aside I want a fcukin site wide ban for this, anyone who agrees thank this post!!

RichieLawlor · 23-02-2012 9:00pm

Zarkandar

premierstone wrote: »

All joking aside I want a fcukin site wide ban for this, anyone who agrees thank this post!!

I wasnt joking when i said i will hunt him down

Johner · 23-02-2012 9:04pm

Zarkandar

Thinking of putting a couple of euro on Grandouet on Betfair. Must check what price he is as you never know what Henderson is up to.

RichieLawlor · 23-02-2012 9:08pm

Zarkandar

Lads, Henderson is not plotting up every horse that gets hurt. Binocular wasnt injured that year, he just wasnt sparkling at home.

Spirit Son and Grandouet have dodgy limbs.

Dont waste your money

ft9 · 23-02-2012 9:17pm

Zarkandar

Johner wrote: »

Thinking of putting a couple of euro on Grandouet on Betfair. Must check what price he is as you never know what Henderson is up to.

Does not matter what he's up to as he has as much chance winning this Champion Hurdle whether he runs or not.

UrbanSea · 23-02-2012 9:18pm

Grandouet

There will be no need to hunt Richard. I will send you my address and number should you require it.

RichieLawlor · 23-02-2012 9:25pm

Zarkandar

UrbanSea wrote: »

There will be no need to hunt Richard. I will send you my address and number should you require it.

Not as much fun though

UrbanSea · 23-02-2012 9:25pm

Grandouet

Ok, ok, you can hunt.

Juwwi · 23-02-2012 9:26pm

Heres a picture of him to help with the hunt.

http://community.cdnbf.net/community.betfair.com/user/onthesnaff/a7e54acd874007dd11dfd0968646ac21.jpg?v=264159

ft9 · 23-02-2012 9:28pm

Zarkandar

robbie1977 wrote: »

Heres a picture of him to help with the hunt.

http://community.cdnbf.net/community.betfair.com/user/onthesnaff/a7e54acd874007dd11dfd0968646ac21.jpg?v=264159

Lol, I often think of that when I see Urban's or Jonjo's posts.

I actually really thought they had sent you a pic that time of them at the Galway Races, as I remember they were spouting about a meet up at the time.

Done some laughing when I opened the link.

UrbanSea · 23-02-2012 9:43pm

Grandouet

Na I'm pure good lookin, every girl wants to bang

hucklebuck · 24-02-2012 2:08am

Binocular

UrbanSea wrote: »

All I need now is for Hurricane Fly to strain something on the gallops.

Don't you mean Hurricane Run?

UrbanSea · 24-02-2012 12:02pm

Grandouet

No, that's his full brother who stands at Coolmore. D'uh

RichieLawlor · 24-02-2012 12:18pm

Zarkandar

UrbanSea wrote: »

No, that's his full brother who stands at Coolmore. D'uh

Can't tell if your serious or not

UrbanSea · 24-02-2012 1:02pm

Grandouet

Nor shall you find out.

Fryern · 24-02-2012 2:54pm

Grandouet

G

hucklebuck wrote: »

NRNB has been around as long as I have.

Out of interest how do you explain the fact bookies and Betfair still have antepost markets then? As every antepost market there is a doubt about what will turn up.

BTW if Hurricane Fly is evens in your book not to turn up, then Binocular must be around evens too which means your 15/1 on Betfair is realistically 7.5/1 less commission.

No 14-1 not 15-1

You obviously missed that. Best is now circa 6-1 so 5-1.

BTW

Nick Luck on Betfair I think he also does C4 and speaks nearly as well as me...........

" I get quieter as the years go by in these ante-post markets but sit quite nicely with Binocular at the moment and couldn 't resist a bit more of the 9-1 Hills were offering after the Kingwell."

What happen to Grandouet? Paid for all my stakes on Binocular some idiots were backing it after I told you all it wouldn't run. Had enough left over for rascal bets on Shadow Catcher 20-1 (Triumph) and Carlito Briganti 25-1 (World - BB coughing?) and the double.

Game on and if HF wins I don't really care

Fryern · 24-02-2012 3:08pm

Grandouet

ft9 wrote: »

Why oh why did I ask that lad to come over here to this forum???

FT9

Great picture - you need a more mature guy, sort of Guy's age. Dancing Brave might help.

Now if you need to know some good restaurants let me know.

So who are you on for the CH? Hope he's still in and I mean that.

ft9 · 24-02-2012 5:33pm

Zarkandar

I'm waiting on Hurricane Fly Fryern for a nice bet to come in.

Backed him to win last time out and the CH @3's.

Thanks, but I was in Cheltenham for the Open and got to know the place a little.

There's a fine Burgerking there!!!

Don't plan on eating much anyway, hopefully champagne will do the trick!

hucklebuck · 24-02-2012 6:14pm

Binocular

Fryern wrote: »

No 14-1 not 15-1

You obviously missed that. Best is now circa 6-1 so 5-1.

You actually posted 15/1, I think Binocular should be top three but has two to beat.

Fryern wrote: »

What happen to Grandouet?

Nothing yet, he is a possible runner until the 13th and not til then.

Fryern wrote: »

Paid for all my stakes on Binocular some idiots were backing it after I told you all it wouldn't run.

I have 5 on Spirit Son and 10 on Grandouet at treble digit odds.

So I ask who is the fool, the man with small stakes at large odds on possible non runners. Or the person who could lose their lay and back money at skinny odds.

Fryern · 24-02-2012 8:02pm

Grandouet

"Binocular must be around evens too which means your 15/1 on Betfair is realistically 7.5/1 less commission."

So take evens off 15/1 you get 14/1. Grandouet doesn't go - scratched.

I only back at long odds then lay in AP markets. My advice is do not leave open bets on Betfair as gentlemen like me might take advantage!

Fryern · 24-02-2012 8:27pm

Grandouet

ft9 wrote: »

I'm waiting on Hurricane Fly Fryern for a nice bet to come in.

Backed him to win last time out and the CH @3's.

Thanks, but I was in Cheltenham for the Open and got to know the place a little.

There's a fine Burgerking there!!!

Don't plan on eating much anyway, hopefully champagne will do the trick!

FT well done I like 3-1 but that doesn't leave much for other than a nose bet.

Restaurants? I wasn't meaning Cheltenham I only know of one and that's nowhere near the course. re Burger... you must try the Goodwood Estates hot sirloin steak sandwiches if you go to the July meeting - amazing sold just south of the Richmond stand.

Stewie Griffin · 24-02-2012 8:35pm

I'm going to try Rock On Ruby e/w. Has good course form and won't mind an end to end gallop. Should get up the hill nicely and the Neptune winner has been known to enjoy the shorter trip of the Champion the next year, a la Hardy Eustace and Istabraq.

On a side note, has any Supreme winner followed up in the Champion the next year? There's probably an obvious one but I can't recall.....

ft9 · 24-02-2012 8:45pm

Zarkandar

Fryern wrote: »

FT well done I like 3-1 but that doesn't leave much for other than a nose bet.

Restaurants? I wasn't meaning Cheltenham I only know of one and that's nowhere near the course. re Burger... you must try the Goodwood Estates hot sirloin steak sandwiches if you go to the July meeting - amazing sold just south of the Richmond stand.

No interest in laying Fryern.

All or nothing

RichieLawlor · 24-02-2012 8:56pm

Zarkandar

My head hurts

ft9 · 24-02-2012 8:59pm

Zarkandar

RichieLawlor wrote: »

My head hurts

???

hucklebuck · 24-02-2012 11:39pm

Binocular

Fryern wrote: »

So take evens off 15/1 you get 14/1.

You think Hurricane Fly is evens to go which means 50% likely, I said why wouldn't Binocular have the same likelyhood. If he is a 50% chance of running this would mean your bet is only 7.5/1 as it's half of 15/1 using your logic.

Fryern wrote: »

Grandouet doesn't go - scratched.

Binocular definitely wasn't running two years ago and he did run and won it. I was just making the point that it is too early to celebrate either of your bets given the past history. Binocular was matched a few times at 999 to the layers expense.

I would not be at all surprised to see one or both of Grandouet and Spirit Son in this race on the day, that is why I took the odds at small stakes, well worth losing €15 to have a chance of winning over €500. If they end up running I can lay them and make money either way.

Did you back him to place too?

RichieLawlor · 25-02-2012 8:23am

Zarkandar

Neither Grandouet or Spirit Son will run. It's the Champion Hurdle and the owners are not going to let Henderson set up a sting by making their horses miss their prep runs. Binocular was not injured that year, that's the difference

Rhinestone Cowboy · 25-02-2012 8:39am

Zarkandar

Another Henderson conspiracy theory:). Oscar Whiskey hasnt been left in the race has he ?

Colonel Sanders · 25-02-2012 6:30pm

Zarkandar

Fryern, anytime you want an evens shot & a 14/1 shot in a double at 15/1 make sure you ring me to lay it

RichieLawlor · 25-02-2012 6:35pm

Zarkandar

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

Fryern, anytime you want an evens shot & a 14/1 shot in a double at 15/1 make sure you ring me to lay it

He makes money from punting, steer clear of him, he must be a genius on another level to us

ste2010 · 25-02-2012 7:08pm

Zarkandar

Rhinestone Cowboy wrote: »

Another Henderson conspiracy theory:). Oscar Whiskey hasnt been left in the race has he ?

Nicky H was tagged below at Kempton earlier

hucklebuck · 25-02-2012 7:20pm

Binocular

RichieLawlor wrote: »

Binocular was not injured that year, that's the difference

Ah, I thought he was ruled out due to injury in 2010, wasn't he matched at 999 though

hucklebuck · 25-02-2012 7:29pm

Binocular

Rhinestone Cowboy wrote: »

Another Henderson conspiracy theory:).

I thought Binocular was injured in 2010.

In 2010 and 2011, there were been strange happenings with Champion Hurdle contenders from Seven Barrows, so I placed small stakes on his two withdrawn horses this year.

You can call me Mulder if it want

mccarte2 · 27-02-2012 4:12pm

Rock on Ruby

Stewie Griffin wrote: »

I'm going to try Rock On Ruby e/w. Has good course form and won't mind an end to end gallop. Should get up the hill nicely and the Neptune winner has been known to enjoy the shorter trip of the Champion the next year, a la Hardy Eustace and Istabraq.

On a side note, has any Supreme winner followed up in the Champion the next year? There's probably an obvious one but I can't recall.....

Rock on Ruby didn't win the Neptune last year.

It's at least 10-15 years I'd say since a Supreme winner won the following years CH. Hor la Loi and Brave Inca won both but not in consecutive years.

newuser89 · 27-02-2012 6:47pm

Other (please specify)

Noel fehily is booked for rock on ruby
That'll do nicely
Great e/w bet

mr.jingle · 27-02-2012 7:23pm

Zarkandar

mccarte2 wrote: »

Rock on Ruby didn't win the Neptune last year.

It's at least 10-15 years I'd say since a Supreme winner won the following years CH. Hor la Loi and Brave Inca won both but not in consecutive years.

I think Bula in the 70's was the last horse to do that double and possibly the only one to do it??? Not 100% sure on it but think i remember from a Cheltenham quiz last year!

Stewie Griffin · 27-02-2012 8:12pm

Yeah of course he didn't. Can I claim a moral victory, ahem?

I was thinking more in terms of the Neptune seeming to be a better guide altogether to the CH than the Supreme. I think he might like the race but he probably still racing for second. If I had large wads of cash, HF would be my bet.

UrbanSea · 28-02-2012 9:58am

Grandouet

Had a dream I was in Galway and checked the results. Baracas won the race, with Hurricane Fly refusing when they all went off. That's not so likely.

In the same dream I got pissed and tried it on with every girl at a party. That is likely.

mccarte2 · 28-02-2012 11:32am

Rock on Ruby

UrbanSea wrote: »

Had a dream I was in Galway and checked the results. Baracas won the race, with Hurricane Fly refusing when they all went off. That's not so likely.

In the same dream I got pissed and tried it on with every girl at a party. That is likely.

Was definitely a dream if Hurricane Fly was in the race. Let us know the next time you dream about Hurricane Run...

UrbanSea · 28-02-2012 12:19pm

Grandouet

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Colonel Sanders · 28-02-2012 1:11pm

Zarkandar

Binocular very weak on Betfair. Very little on the pink side

Champion Hurdle, 13-03-12

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