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Marathon Improvers Thread.

hot buttered scones · 2017-05-22 17:49:52

From reading the training logs, I can see there are plenty of people either training for marathons or intend to start training for an autumn marathon fairly soon. We have a Novices thread and a Sub 3 support thread, so why not a thread for those of us in between? I think I may have come across a similar thread on this…

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#572 19-10-2017 12:40pm
Classic21

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Bib No.| Username | PB | Target | Actual
TBA | Murph_D |3:28:28|3:19:59|
TBA | Eric the Eagle |3:26:25|3:19:59|
TBA | jaggiebunnet |3:32:39|3:24:59|
TBA | Charloda |3:13:04|3:09:59|
TBA | Henry42 |3:34:44|3:19:59|
TBA | boydkev |4:00:56|3:29:30|
TBA | Unthought Known |4:16:44|3:44:59|
TBA | JohnDozer |3:59:xx|3:39:59|
TBA | G1raff3 |3:30:30|3:24:59|
TBA|El Caballo|3:15.29|3:11.29|
TBA|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
TBA|denis b|3:54:11|3:39:59|
TBA|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
TBA|Wubble Wubble |3:49:01|3:29:59|
TBA|Classic21 |3:37:42|3:14:59|

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#573 19-10-2017 12:54pm
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Murph_D wrote: »

Probably not, but let us know how you get on. Seems like an awful waste though - can you not sign up for something official? One of the East of Ireland series, maybe.

Someone offered me their entry for DCM, but I don't want to do that. I'm quite happy to do a solo one. My prep hasn't been ideal either, and I think my main target for the season was the HM in Galway recently, so I don't feel like I'm missing out by not doing an official marathon. I'll try an official one in the Spring though. Maybe Seville in February and then Limerick in May, all going well.

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#574 19-10-2017 4:43pm
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Not done much over 13 miles recently due to a dodgy ankle, but keeping the weight down so here's hoping...!

Bib No.| Username | PB | Target | Actual
TBA | Murph_D |3:28:28|3:19:59|
TBA | Eric the Eagle |3:26:25|3:19:59|
TBA | jaggiebunnet |3:32:39|3:24:59|
TBA | Charloda |3:13:04|3:09:59|
TBA | Henry42 |3:34:44|3:19:59|
TBA | boydkev |4:00:56|3:29:30|
TBA | Unthought Known |4:16:44|3:44:59|
TBA | JohnDozer |3:59:xx|3:39:59|
TBA | G1raff3 |3:30:30|3:24:59|
TBA|El Caballo|3:15.29|3:11.29|
TBA|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
TBA|denis b|3:54:11|3:39:59|
TBA|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
TBA|Wubble Wubble |3:49:01|3:29:59|
TBA|Classic21 |3:37:42|3:14:59|
TBA|Jakey Rolling |3:27:15|3:29:59|

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#575 19-10-2017 11:00pm
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zulutango wrote: »

Someone offered me their entry for DCM, but I don't want to do that. I'm quite happy to do a solo one. My prep hasn't been ideal either, and I think my main target for the season was the HM in Galway recently, so I don't feel like I'm missing out by not doing an official marathon. I'll try an official one in the Spring though. Maybe Seville in February and then Limerick in May, all going well.

I am doing Sevillie and have done it before. Its a top class marathon and definitely a better option then Limerick if you can swing it.

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#576 19-10-2017 11:40pm
Murph_D

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Bib No.| Username | PB | Target | Actual
TBA | Murph_D |3:28:28|3:19:59|
TBA | Eric the Eagle |3:26:25|3:19:59|
TBA | jaggiebunnet |3:32:39|3:24:59|
TBA | Charloda |3:13:04|3:09:59|
TBA | Henry42 |3:34:44|3:19:59|
TBA | boydkev |4:00:56|3:29:30|
TBA | Unthought Known |4:16:44|3:44:59|
TBA | JohnDozer |3:59:xx|3:39:59|
TBA | G1raff3 |3:30:30|3:24:59|
TBA|El Caballo|3:15.29|3:11.29|
TBA|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
TBA|denis b|3:54:11|3:39:59|
TBA|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
TBA|Wubble Wubble |3:49:01|3:29:59|
TBA|Classic21 |3:37:42|3:14:59|
TBA|Jakey Rolling |3:27:15|3:29:59|

Fixing...

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#577 19-10-2017 11:49pm
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Bib No.| Username | PB | Target | Actual
TBA | Murph_D |3:28:28|3:19:59|
TBA | Eric the Eagle |3:26:25|3:19:59|
TBA | jaggiebunnet |3:32:39|3:24:59|
TBA | Charloda |3:13:04|3:09:59|
TBA | Henry42 |3:34:44|3:19:59|
TBA | boydkev |4:00:56|3:29:30|
TBA | Unthought Known |4:16:44|3:44:59|
TBA | JohnDozer |3:59:xx|3:39:59|
TBA | G1raff3 |3:30:30|3:24:59|
TBA|El Caballo|3:15.29|3:11.29|
TBA|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
TBA|denis b|3:54:11|3:39:59|
TBA|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
TBA|Wubble Wubble |3:49:01|3:29:59|
TBA|Classic21 |3:37:42|3:14:59|
TBA|Jakey Rolling |3:27:15|3:29:59|
TBA|Martyboy48 | 3:18:00?|3:29:59|

The plan at the moment is sub 3:30.... That could change in the morning...
I see Classic21 is sandbagging again
There is one or two others at it as well

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#578 20-10-2017 7:13am
Classic21

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martyboy48 wrote: »

The plan at the moment is sub 3:30.... That could change in the morning...
I see Classic21 is sandbagging again
There is one or two others at it as well

Marty I think I'm being realistic but I just don't know. I will have to see how I feel on the day.
I'm sure I will see you before then but if not have a good one!

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#579 20-10-2017 3:54pm
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Classic21 wrote: »

Marty I think I'm being realistic but I just don't know. I will have to see how I feel on the day.
I'm sure I will see you before then but if not have a good one!

I haven't seen you logging on strava in a while but if you've kept the momentum going you'll fly it...
Go at 3:15 pace till 20 so and open up if feeling good and conditions allow.... ☺

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#580 20-10-2017 9:28pm
Classic21

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martyboy48 wrote: »

I haven't seen you logging on strava in a while but if you've kept the momentum going you'll fly it...
Go at 3:15 pace till 20 so and open up if feeling good and conditions allow.... ☺

Been off Strava but kept the mileage up. I will try to be conservative until after half way and see how I feel, just need to wait and see what the day brings to fully decide.

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#581 21-10-2017 12:08pm
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Does one go with what one is realisitically capable of, or play it safe and avoid going out too fast ? I'm thinking of 3'40 versus 3'30. I think I could do 3'30 but I risk going out too fast and something 'going wrong'. Go at 3'40 pace (8'21) the first few miles and then '3'35 (8'15?) once I've settled in and am hopefully 'settled in' ?

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#582 21-10-2017 1:00pm
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That's what marathon 'improving' is all about - getting better, taking a few more risks, sensing what you might be capable of and going for it. If going out too fast is a genuine risk for you, this is something you have to work on and have the discipline not to do it. Go with the pace group, maybe, to stop yourself haring off. Starting at 3:40 and then switching to 3:35 means it's highly unlikely you'll get to 3:30, unless you can run the second half in 1:42.

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#583 21-10-2017 2:33pm
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Murph_D wrote: »

That's what marathon 'improving' is all about - getting better, taking a few more risks, sensing what you might be capable of and going for it. If going out too fast is a genuine risk for you, this is something you have to work on and have the discipline not to do it. Go with the pace group, maybe, to stop yourself haring off. Starting at 3:40 and then switching to 3:35 means it's highly unlikely you'll get to 3:30, unless you can run the second half in 1:42.

I think 3'35 or 36 would still be a great result (even if a teeny bit more might be possible) That's decided I think. Expect the first mile or two to be a bit slower (maybe 8'40) and then settle into 8'15 and try to keep it going

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#584 21-10-2017 6:35pm
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I've actually done very very little training the past 10 days, but I'm feeling mentally and physically fresher . A lot more work done around the house. A lot more energy. Walking a lot faster too

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#585 21-10-2017 8:01pm
Phoebas

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Bib No.| Username | PB | Target | Actual
TBA | Murph_D |3:28:28|3:19:59|
TBA | Eric the Eagle |3:26:25|3:19:59|
TBA | jaggiebunnet |3:32:39|3:24:59|
TBA | Charloda |3:13:04|3:09:59|
TBA | Henry42 |3:34:44|3:19:59|
TBA | boydkev |4:00:56|3:29:30|
TBA | Unthought Known |4:16:44|3:44:59|
TBA | JohnDozer |3:59:xx|3:39:59|
TBA | G1raff3 |3:30:30|3:24:59|
TBA|El Caballo|3:15.29|3:11.29|
TBA|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
TBA|denis b|3:54:11|3:39:59|
TBA|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
TBA|Wubble Wubble |3:49:01|3:29:59|
TBA|Classic21 |3:37:42|3:14:59|
TBA|Jakey Rolling |3:27:15|3:29:59|
TBA|Martyboy48 | 3:18:00?|3:29:59|
TBA|Phoebas | 3:58:44|3:39:59|

I'll be needing a nice cool morning with just a gentle breeze and a few little niggles to clear up over the next couple of days.

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#586 21-10-2017 8:37pm
Murph_D

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Bib No.| Username | PB | Target | Actual
TBA | Murph_D |3:28:28|3:19:59|
TBA | Eric the Eagle |3:26:25|3:19:59|
TBA | jaggiebunnet |3:32:39|3:24:59|
TBA | Charloda |3:13:04|3:09:59|
TBA | Henry42 |3:34:44|3:19:59|
TBA | boydkev |4:00:56|3:29:30|
TBA | Unthought Known |4:16:44|3:44:59|
TBA | JohnDozer |3:59:xx|3:39:59|
TBA | G1raff3 |3:30:30|3:24:59|
TBA|El Caballo|3:15.29|3:11.29|
TBA|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
TBA|denis b|3:54:11|3:39:59|
TBA|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
TBA|Wubble Wubble |3:49:01|3:29:59|
TBA|Classic21 |3:37:42|3:14:59|
TBA|Jakey Rolling |3:27:15|3:29:59|
TBA|Martyboy48 |3:18:00?|3:29:59|
TBA|Phoebas |3:58:44|3:39:59|

More fixing.

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#587 21-10-2017 9:29pm
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Turned a corner on my run today and the wind virtually stopped me dead. There'll be a late edit to my target if we have similar weather next week!

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#588 21-10-2017 10:56pm
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Unthought Known wrote: »

Turned a corner on my run today and the wind virtually stopped me dead. There'll be a late edit to my target if we have similar weather next week!

I've just had a couple of beers and I'm thinking of revising my target from 3:30 to 3:20

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#589 21-10-2017 11:09pm
hot buttered scones

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martyboy48 wrote:

I've just had a couple of beers and I'm thinking of revising my target from 3:30 to 3:20

Have a couple more and go for 3:10. ðŸ˜€

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#590 22-10-2017 8:22am
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Murph_D wrote: »

Bib No.| Username | PB | Target | Actual
TBA | Murph_D |3:28:28|3:19:59|
TBA | Eric the Eagle |3:26:25|3:19:59|
TBA | jaggiebunnet |3:32:39|3:24:59|
TBA | Charloda |3:13:04|3:09:59|
TBA | Henry42 |3:34:44|3:19:59|
TBA | boydkev |4:00:56|3:29:30|
TBA | Unthought Known |4:16:44|3:44:59|
TBA | JohnDozer |3:59:xx|3:39:59|
TBA | G1raff3 |3:30:30|3:24:59|
TBA|El Caballo|3:15.29|3:11.29|
TBA|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
TBA|denis b|3:54:11|3:39:59|
TBA|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
TBA|Wubble Wubble |3:49:01|3:29:59|
TBA|Classic21 |3:37:42|3:14:59|
TBA|Jakey Rolling |3:27:15|3:29:59|
TBA|Martyboy48 |3:18:00?|3:29:59|
TBA|Phoebas |3:58:44|3:39:59|

More fixing.

Thanks D. I am nearly clear of the relegation zone:). End of season approaching :eek:

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#591 22-10-2017 8:26am
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M.T.Cranium of Boards always has an interesting take on the long range weather. Early signs are good.

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#592 22-10-2017 9:04am
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denis b wrote: »

Thanks D. I am nearly clear of the relegation zone:). End of season approaching :eek:

Game has yet to be played. Final standings based on actual performance, not projected or past glories!

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#593 22-10-2017 2:52pm
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Strong/cold wind blowing down chesterfield Ave this morning, could do without that next Sunday.
If it wants to blow the opposite direction that's fine.

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#594 22-10-2017 5:14pm
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hot buttered scones wrote: »

Bib No.| Username | PB | Target | Actual
TBA | Murph_D |3:28:28|3:19:59|
TBA|Spirogyra |3:59:02|3:39:30|
TBA | Eric the Eagle |3:26:25|3:19:59|
TBA | jaggiebunnet |3:32:39|3:24:59|
TBA | Charloda |3:13:04|3:09:59|
TBA | Henry42 |3:34:44|3:19:59|
TBA | boydkev |4:00:56|3:29:30|
TBA | Unthought Known |4:16:44|3:44:59|
TBA | JohnDozer |3:59:xx|3:39:59|
TBA | G1raff3 |3:30:30|3:24:59|
TBA|El Caballo|3:15.29|3:11.29|
TBA|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
TBA|denis b|3:54:11|3:39:59|
TBA|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|

Just added myself. 3'39 is realisitc, whether it happens or not, only time will tell. Even 3'49 would still be a big improvement on previous attempt more than 2 years ago . I'm a lot stronger now and that should be reflected on the day. But one never knows for sure:rolleyes:

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#595 22-10-2017 5:22pm
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ooter wrote: »

Strong/cold wind blowing down chesterfield Ave this morning, could do without that next Sunday.
If it wants to blow the opposite direction that's fine.

So long as it has turned around before we're heading up Crumlin Rd...

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#596 22-10-2017 6:19pm
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Bib No.| Username | PB | Target | Actual
TBA | Murph_D |3:28:28|3:19:59|
TBA | Eric the Eagle |3:26:25|3:19:59|
TBA | jaggiebunnet |3:32:39|3:24:59|
TBA | Charloda |3:13:04|3:09:59|
TBA | Henry42 |3:34:44|3:19:59|
TBA | boydkev |4:00:56|3:29:30|
TBA | Unthought Known |4:16:44|3:44:59|
TBA | JohnDozer |3:59:xx|3:39:59|
TBA | G1raff3 |3:30:30|3:24:59|
TBA|El Caballo|3:15.29|3:11.29|
TBA|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
TBA|denis b|3:54:11|3:39:59|
TBA|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
TBA|Wubble Wubble |3:49:01|3:29:59|
TBA|Classic21 |3:37:42|3:14:59|
TBA|Jakey Rolling |3:27:15|3:29:59|
TBA|Martyboy48 |3:18:00?|3:29:59|
TBA|Phoebas |3:58:44|3:39:59|
TBA|Spirogyra|3:59:02|3:39:59|

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#597 23-10-2017 11:32am
opus

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Bib No.| Username | PB | Target | Actual
TBA | Murph_D |3:28:28|3:19:59|
TBA | Eric the Eagle |3:26:25|3:19:59|
TBA | jaggiebunnet |3:32:39|3:24:59|
TBA | Charloda |3:13:04|3:09:59|
TBA | Henry42 |3:34:44|3:19:59|
TBA | boydkev |4:00:56|3:29:30|
TBA | Unthought Known |4:16:44|3:44:59|
TBA | JohnDozer |3:59:xx|3:39:59|
TBA | G1raff3 |3:30:30|3:24:59|
TBA|El Caballo|3:15.29|3:11.29|
TBA|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
TBA|denis b|3:54:11|3:39:59|
TBA|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
TBA|Wubble Wubble |3:49:01|3:29:59|
TBA|Classic21 |3:37:42|3:14:59|
TBA|Jakey Rolling |3:27:15|3:29:59|
TBA|Martyboy48 |3:18:00?|3:29:59|
TBA|Phoebas |3:58:44|3:39:59|
TBA|Spirogyra|3:59:02|3:39:59|
TBA|opus|2:53:40|3:08|

Running this with a friend aiming to nip under 3:10.

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#598 23-10-2017 12:44pm
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Bib No.| Username | PB | Target | Actual
TBA | Murph_D |3:28:28|3:19:59|
TBA | Eric the Eagle |3:26:25|3:19:59|
TBA | jaggiebunnet |3:32:39|3:24:59|
TBA | Charloda |3:13:04|3:09:59|
TBA | Henry42 |3:34:44|3:19:59|
TBA | boydkev |4:00:56|3:29:30|
TBA | Unthought Known |4:16:44|3:44:59|
TBA | JohnDozer |3:59:xx|3:39:59|
TBA | G1raff3 |3:30:30|3:24:59|
TBA|El Caballo|3:15.29|3:11.29|
TBA|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
TBA|denis b|3:54:11|3:39:59|
TBA|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
TBA|Wubble Wubble |3:49:01|3:29:59|
TBA|Classic21 |3:37:42|3:14:59|
TBA|Jakey Rolling |3:27:15|3:29:59|
TBA|Martyboy48 |3:18:00?|3:29:59|
TBA|Phoebas |3:58:44|3:39:59|
TBA|Spirogyra|3:59:02|3:39:59|
TBA|opus|2:53:40|3:08:00|
TBA|TFBubendorfer|2:55:07|3:15:00|

I'm not an improver but if opus adds himself then so can I. Not looking for a PB, time will depend on how I feel on the day, expecting 3:15 - 3:20.

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#599 23-10-2017 1:57pm
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Bib No.| Username | PB | Target | Actual
TBA | Murph_D |3:28:28|3:19:59|
TBA | Eric the Eagle |3:26:25|3:19:59|
TBA | jaggiebunnet |3:32:39|3:24:59|
TBA | Charloda |3:13:04|3:09:59|
TBA | Henry42 |3:34:44|3:19:59|
TBA | boydkev |4:00:56|3:29:30|
TBA | Unthought Known |4:16:44|3:44:59|
TBA | JohnDozer |3:59:xx|3:39:59|
TBA | G1raff3 |3:30:30|3:24:59|
TBA|El Caballo|3:15.29|3:11.29|
TBA|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
TBA|denis b|3:54:11|3:39:59|
TBA|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
TBA|Wubble Wubble |3:49:01|3:29:59|
TBA|Classic21 |3:37:42|3:14:59|
TBA|Jakey Rolling |3:27:15|3:29:59|
TBA|Martyboy48 |3:18:00?|3:29:59|
TBA|Bobby1984 |3:48:00|3:34:59|
TBA|Phoebas |3:58:44|3:39:59|
TBA|Spirogyra|3:59:02|3:39:59|
TBA|opus|2:53:40|3:08:00|
TBA|TFBubendorfer|2:55:07|3:15:00|

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#600 23-10-2017 4:44pm
opus

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TFBubendorfer wrote: »

I'm not an improver but if opus adds himself then so can I. Not looking for a PB, time will depend on how I feel on the day, expecting 3:15 - 3:20.

Aren't we all trying to improve

Will be seeing you at the start so & will be wearing glasses this time so will actually recognise people!

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#601 23-10-2017 5:16pm
diego_b

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Bib No.| Username | PB | Target | Actual
TBA | Murph_D |3:28:28|3:19:59|
TBA | Eric the Eagle |3:26:25|3:19:59|
TBA | jaggiebunnet |3:32:39|3:24:59|
TBA | Charloda |3:13:04|3:09:59|
TBA | Henry42 |3:34:44|3:19:59|
TBA | boydkev |4:00:56|3:29:30|
TBA | Unthought Known |4:16:44|3:44:59|
TBA | JohnDozer |3:59:xx|3:39:59|
TBA | G1raff3 |3:30:30|3:24:59|
TBA|El Caballo|3:15.29|3:11.29|
TBA|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
TBA|denis b|3:54:11|3:39:59|
TBA|diego_b|3:43:41|3:39:30|
TBA|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
TBA|Wubble Wubble |3:49:01|3:29:59|
TBA|Classic21 |3:37:42|3:14:59|
TBA|Jakey Rolling |3:27:15|3:29:59|
TBA|Martyboy48 |3:18:00?|3:29:59|
TBA|Bobby1984 |3:48:00|3:34:59|
TBA|Phoebas |3:58:44|3:39:59|
TBA|Spirogyra|3:59:02|3:39:59|
TBA|opus|2:53:40|3:08:00|
TBA|TFBubendorfer|2:55:07|3:15:00|

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