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    #1892
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    The Cush wrote: »
    Just quoting the CCPC.
    Competition and Consumer Protection Commission clears proposed acquisition of TV3 Television Network Limited by Liberty Global plc
    2/10/2015

    I don't see TV3 re-branding to Virgin unless Virgin Media plan to launch British services.


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    #1893
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Elmo wrote: »
    I don't see TV3 re-branding to Virgin unless Virgin Media plan to launch British services.
    It certainly will be very interesting to see what happens with TV3 - as I said on another thread I personally think it could happen. The "Virgin" brand would then include - Two television stations, A Broadband provider, A Mobile phone carrier, A multi-television platform provider and a home phone provider.... that would be some slice of the Irish market!


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    #1894
    Elmo
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    irishfeen wrote: »
    It certainly will be very interesting to see what happens with TV3 - as I said on another thread I personally think it could happen. The "Virgin" brand would then include - Two television stations, A Broadband provider, A Mobile phone carrier, A multi-television platform provider and a home phone provider.... that would be some slice of the Irish market!

    The problem with rebranding TV3 and 3e to Virgin 1 and 2 suggests that Virgin Media have long term plans for the broadcaster, I don't see that. TV3 will be up for sale in a few years IMO.

    Interesting to see if TV3 management will change.


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    #1895
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    I must say fair used to TV3, not their biggest fan but you can't but credit them or congratulate them for this - Yesterday they achieved their highest ever viewing figures in their 17 year history.

    They have listened to be fair to them from massive criticisms, apart from their lead commentator I think its now very good tbh...

    From the Irish Times
    Ireland’s Rugby World Cup game against Italy on Sunday was the most-watched programme ever on TV3, beating a record held by the 2010 final of the Simon Cowell entertainment show.

    An average of 956,600 viewers watched Ireland beat Italy on TV3 and secure a place in the quarter finals, according to the ratings compiled by TAM Ireland and Nielsen.
    This eclipsed the 930,500 people who watched Matt Cardle beat Rebecca Ferguson and One Direction into second and third place respectively on The X Factor in December 2010.

    Some 70 per cent of people watching television yesterday afternoon were tuned into the Ireland game, which reached 1.375 million people in total. The audience peaked at 1.184 million viewers.

    TV3’s commercial director Pat Kiely had predicted before the tournament began that the channel would reach its highest-ever audience. The broadcaster now hopes to set a fresh record again next Sunday when Ireland take on France in the final pool game.
    Its weekend viewing figures were also swelled by England’s defeat to Australia, which attracted an average audience of 685,800 viewers.


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    #1896
    lertsnim
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    What programming will they have to keep those viewers when the World Cup is over?


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    #1897
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    lertsnim wrote: »
    What programming will they have to keep those viewers when the World Cup is over?
    Almost nothing your right - They might enter sports rights coverage, Irish 6 nations auction begins in Jan from what I remember, 3pm PL games/highlights also up for grabs soon...


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    #1898
    ftakeith
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    irishfeen wrote: »
    Almost nothing your right - They might enter sports rights coverage, Irish 6 nations auction begins in Jan from what I remember, 3pm PL games/highlights also up for grabs soon...

    6 nations rugby more likely than the 3pm Eng Prem League on saturdays
    6 nations would a ratings winner for tv3 or virgin 1


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    #1899
    Elmo
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    lertsnim wrote: »
    What programming will they have to keep those viewers when the World Cup is over?

    To be unfair to them they possibly achieve their lowest audience in there 2 decades on the air at some stage this year.


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    #1900
    Elmo
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    ftakeith wrote: »
    6 nations rugby more likely than the 3pm Eng Prem League on saturdays
    6 nations would a ratings winner for tv3 or virgin 1

    When are 6 nations up for grabs?
    TV3 have a great big whole to fill and no conjecture can account for that even the idea that it might be re-branded Virgin 1.

    Also they not announced any sports as big as RWC the jewel in their 2015 crown.


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    #1901
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Elmo wrote: »
    When are 6 nations up for grabs?
    TV3 have a great big whole to fill and no conjecture can account for that even the idea that it might be re-branded Virgin 1.

    Also they not announced any sports as big as RWC the jewel in their 2015 crown.
    Bidding starts for 6 Nations in January as far as i'm aware - wouldn't be surprised to see all of them involved in the bidding - RTÉ, TV3, UTVI and TG4.


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    #1902
    ftakeith
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    irishfeen wrote: »
    Bidding starts for 6 Nations in January as far as i'm aware - wouldn't be surprised to see all of them involved in the bidding - RTÉ, TV3, UTVI and TG4.

    utvi and tg4 can be counted out


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    #1903
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    ftakeith wrote: »
    utvi and tg4 can be counted out
    Why is that?


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    #1904
    deezell
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    irishfeen wrote: »
    Bidding starts for 6 Nations in January as far as i'm aware - wouldn't be surprised to see all of them involved in the bidding - RTÉ, TV3, UTVI and TG4.
    Surely tv3 can't get the six nations after their horrendous delivery of the world cup in fuzzy vision. Images were so blurred you couldn't tell which player was which.


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    #1905
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    deezell wrote: »
    Surely tv3 can't get the six nations after their horrendous delivery of the world cup in fuzzy vision. Images were so blurred you couldn't tell which player was which.
    Its all about money at the end of the day, whoever bids the most wins and especially when is FTA v FTA broadcasters....


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    #1906
    ftakeith
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    irishfeen wrote: »
    Why is that?

    UTVI don't have the money and it could go bust or a takeover

    TG4 won't get the rights as RTEtv will make sure the funds won't be there for tg4 for live 6 nations


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    #1907
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    TG4 isn't a part of RTE and hasn't been for eight years.


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    #1908
    Elmo
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    Most likely if there is a change it will be a joint bid between RTÉ, TG4, BBC and S4C.

    Less likely BT get coverage and TV3 get deferred coverage.

    Or when ITV buy UTV that It gets live nation coverage e.g Ireland FTA on ITV NI and RoI or Scotland FTA live on STV and Boarders no sat coverage etc with BT holding all the live rights but that's just conjecture!


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    #1909
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    UK rights already sold, BBC and ITV joint winners.

    Personally I think the Irish rights will stay with RTE, it's a flagship event for them and one I think they'll fight to keep. I don't think UTV will even bid and while I wouldn't rule out TV3 or Setanta I do think ultimately the rights will stay with RTE.


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    #1910
    OldRio
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    irishfeen wrote: »
    Its all about money at the end of the day, whoever bids the most wins and especially when is FTA v FTA broadcasters....

    Money is king but lets hope FTA HD is made a necessity in the bidding process.
    Unlike this travesty at the moment.


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    #1911
    ftakeith
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    OldRio wrote: »
    Money is king but lets hope FTA HD is made a necessity in the bidding process.
    Unlike this travesty at the moment.

    bbc hd and itv hd is available fta on satellite

    I hope RTE2hd keeps the 6 nations live rights from 2017


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    #1912
    channelsurfer2
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    http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/six-nations/2012/1011/341212-rte-retain-six-nations-rights-until-2017/

    2 more seasons on RTE so TV3 cant get them until at least 2018(or UTV Ireland if its still around!)


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    #1913
    OldRio
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    ftakeith wrote: »
    bbc hd and itv hd is available fta on satellite

    I hope RTE2hd keeps the 6 nations live rights from 2017

    Yes I do know BBC HD and ITV HD are fta on freesat. Unlike TV3 which is hid behind a paywall.


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    #1914
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    icdg wrote: »
    UK rights already sold, BBC and ITV joint winners.

    Personally I think the Irish rights will stay with RTE, it's a flagship event for them and one I think they'll fight to keep. I don't think UTV will even bid and while I wouldn't rule out TV3 or Setanta I do think ultimately the rights will stay with RTE.

    You might see ITV bid for Irish rights with RTE, keeping UTV Ireland schedule like for like. When are the 6 nations starting on ITV.

    Also for TV3 2018 is way off, what have the in 2016 and 2017? nothing like RWC.


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    #1915
    ftakeith
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    Elmo wrote: »
    You might see ITV bid for Irish rights with RTE, keeping UTV Ireland schedule like for like. When are the 6 nations starting on ITV.

    Also for TV3 2018 is way off, what have the in 2016 and 2017? nothing like RWC.

    its more likely its RTE and TV3 or RTE alone


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    #1916
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    Who exactly owes TV3?

    The TV3 website just mentions TV3 Group

    No mention of Liberty Global or VM anywhere on their site


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    #1917
    The Cush
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    mackersdublin wrote: »
    Who exactly owes TV3?

    The TV3 website just mentions TV3 Group

    No mention of Liberty Global or VM anywhere on their site

    Still owned by Doughty Hanson via a holding company Tullamore Beta (amongst others). In the process of being sold to Liberty Global via UPC/Virgin Media, the competition authority (the CPCC) gave its approval to the acquisition last Fri - http://www.ccpc.ie/enforcement/mergers/merger-notices/m15039-liberty-global-tv3


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    #1918
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    The Cush wrote: »
    Still owned by Doughty Hanson via a holding company Tullamore Beta (amongst others). In the process of being sold to Liberty Global via UPC/Virgin Media, the competition authority (the CPCC) gave its approval to the acquisition last Fri - http://www.ccpc.ie/enforcement/mergers/merger-notices/m15039-liberty-global-tv3

    So it looks like it will be a couple of months before the deal can be finalised


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    #1919
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    mackersdublin wrote: »
    So it looks like it will be a couple of months before the deal can be finalised

    AFAIK know the CPCC just have to put into writing the reasons behind its decision and Doherty Hanson, Tullamore Beta, TV3 and Liberty Global have a say as to what the CPCC can publish from a commercial perspective. I think Liberty and Doherty Hanson just now put the wheels in motion for the sale. I'd say it will be completed by mid-November.


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    #1920
    gordongekko
    Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    ftakeith wrote: »
    utvi and tg4 can be counted out

    So can virgin1 as it doesn't exist


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    #1921
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    gordongekko wrote: »
    So can virgin1 as it doesn't exist
    ... Yet.You would never know!


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