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Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

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    #1862
    Chelon
    Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭Chelon


    Anyone know if The 40 foot has sorted out their cask ale supply problem?


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    #1863
    Avada
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭Avada


    Chelon wrote: »
    Anyone know if The 40 foot has sorted out their cask ale supply problem?

    Not as of 2 nights ago


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    #1864
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,787 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Broadside in fine form in TTT today.

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    #1865
    Mynamehere
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭Mynamehere


    How does the the Three Tun and the 40 foot turn a profit with those prices with staff to pay, rates and other expenses? I would love to see their accounts for their Dublin pubs. They surely cant be making much even if they are busy.

    Had a chicken panini in a wetherspoons recently in the UK. If those two pubs in Dublin are serving similar standard food then i don't think the local chippers/ food pubs have anything to worry about. The food was of a similar standard to a pre packed sandwich reheated in a microwave.


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    #1866
    oblivious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    I have enjoyed their curry night, not amazing but good value.


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    #1867
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    Mynamehere wrote: »
    How does the the Three Tun and the 40 foot turn a profit with those prices with staff to pay, rates and other expenses? I would love to see their accounts for their Dublin pubs. They surely cant be making much even if they are busy.

    Had a chicken panini in a wetherspoons recently in the UK. If those two pubs in Dublin are serving similar standard food then i don't think the local chippers/ food pubs have anything to worry about. The food was of a similar standard to a pre packed sandwich reheated in a microwave.


    Its a clever business model, because its cheap, punters come back more often.

    Their pubs in parts of the north of England are even cheaper, two meals for £6.47 in places like Barnsley. The chain still made a £ 79 million profit in 2012.

    Shows how punters in expensive pubs and restaurants are being fleeced.

    In the UK wetherspoons has got more expensive, not so long ago they were doing 99p pints.



    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-2753418/More-pub-openings-help-boost-profits-JD-Wetherspoon.html


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    #1868
    BaZmO*
    Registered Users Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    Its a clever business model, because its cheap, punters come back more often.

    Their pubs in parts of the north of England are even cheaper, two meals for £6.47 in places like Barnsley. The chain still made a £ 79 million profit in 2012.

    Shows how punters in expensive pubs and restaurants are being fleeced.

    In the UK wetherspoons has got more expensive, not so long ago they were doing 99p pints.



    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-2753418/More-pub-openings-help-boost-profits-JD-Wetherspoon.html

    Just because Spoons are cheaper it doesn't necessarily mean that you are being fleeced in other bars. I would imagine the reason why Spoons still make massive profits is down to scale and buying power. Other places might have higher overheads or maybe are just not as savvy when it comes to buying or just the general running of the pub.

    It's impossible to know any of this without seeing their books though.


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    #1869
    Vic_08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Just because Spoons are cheaper it doesn't necessarily mean that you are being fleeced in other bars. I would imagine the reason why Spoons still make massive profits is down to scale and buying power. Other places might have higher overheads or maybe are just not as savvy when it comes to buying or just the general running of the pub.

    It's impossible to know any of this without seeing their books though.


    Well, as you or I are not going to be seeing the books of 'spoons or any other Irish pub it is a pointless argument.

    The "buying power" justification has already been destroyed by the Heineken spat. Heineken already clarified the they were not selling to JDW in Ireland at lower prices than to other customers, they were just butt hurt that their "premium" pisswater was being sold in a high profile location at bargain prices.

    It is not as JDW were unique in selling much cheaper booze than normal in a licensed premises, the likes of Dicey O'reilley's and Blacker's (Welfare Wednesday) were and still are selling beer including "premium" Heineken for €3 or less without bother.

    The difference is that JDW are taking non-scum custom from established pubs and will potentially be doing so on an ever increasing scale over the next few years and the 100% Irish cute hoor pub barons do not like the idea of their profits being hit by an incomer that doesn't play by the Irish cartel game.

    The economy of scale justification is pretty thin also as JDW has a grand total of 2 open pubs in ROI at the moment. No doubt they are importing certain products to Blackrock and Dun Laoghaire from their UK or NI operations but that is hardly a cheap method of supplying cask or keg beer to an Irish pub unless the prices charged by local suppliers are so high to offset the additional logistics costs of bespoke imports.

    Even if their expansion plans continue at a high rate it will still be a few years before JDW have more licenced premises than any of the big Irish pub chains (and they are chains even if they hide their common ownership under a shroud of "Genuine Irish Local Pub" branding) but never mind that, anyone selling beer at €3 or under must be doing something dodgy, otherwise it is really true that we have all been gouged by the LVA and Diageo/Heineken for decades for the defining Irish past time of boozing in a pub.

    All that has happened is that JDW has demonstrated the prices that alcohol should be sold at in a pub. €2.50-3.00 for beer in a regular venue, maybe up to €4.00 in an exceptional premises, not the €5 upwards as is standard now in urban pubs.


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    #1870
    oblivious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Rumor has it barracuda in bray is there next outlet


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    #1871
    n97 mini
    Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Just heard a rumour about the Castle Inn in Rathfarnham. Although a lot seem to be nothing more than rumours.


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    #1872
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 12,976 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    oblivious wrote: »
    Rumor has it barracuda in bray is there next outlet

    Yeah, I heard that at the weekend while drinking in Blackrock.

    It was voted best restaurant in Bray in 2014 for what it's worth.


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    #1873
    Creamy Goodness
    Registered Users Posts: 26,556 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Losty Dublin wrote: »
    Yeah, I heard that at the weekend while drinking in Blackrock.

    It was voted best restaurant in Bray in 2014 for what it's worth.
    by whom? They must have no taste buds. I've been to the barracuda 5 times, and only once by choice. Food is bog standard, service is slow and inaccurate. Nephew ordered fish, they served him up a steak even though no one at the table even ordered steak.

    Campo the italian restaurant opposite it, is much much better and in or around the same price too.


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    #1874
    Losty Dublin
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    Creamy Goodness wrote: »
    by whom?

    Bray Chamber of Commerce, no less. Michelin called in to try it out for a star but they got on the wrong Dart's and gave it to Bon Appetit in Malahide. :pac:


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    #1875
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    oblivious wrote: »
    Rumor has it barracuda in bray is there next outlet

    Away games against Bray Wanderers on Saturdays from next season: a JDW and the Harbour Bar within walking distance of the ground

    Sorted. :pac:


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    #1876
    odyssey06
    Registered Users Posts: 27,967 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    anncoates wrote: »
    Away games against Bray Wanderers on Saturdays from next season: a JDW and the Harbour Bar within walking distance of the ground

    Don't force them to bring in a no club colours rule like in Enger-land :)

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #1877
    Lovely Bloke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    Harbour Bar is a dire place, living off it's own legend.


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    #1878
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    Just had lunch in my local spoons in Essex, Baked potato with chilli and a salad and a large mug of coffee £ 3.86.

    The healthy stuff, pasta etc is not bad.


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    #1879
    ben.schlomo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,984 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Someone in the Galway city forum claims JDW have agreed to open in the former Cottage bar in Lower Salthill, announcing in a couple of weeks so he says.


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    #1880
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    ben.schlomo wrote: »
    Someone in the Galway city forum claims JDW have agreed to open in the former Cottage bar in Lower Salthill, announcing in a couple of weeks so he says.

    That's far too small for a weatherspoons


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    #1881
    ben.schlomo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,984 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    RasTa wrote: »
    That's far too small for a weatherspoons

    Yep id agree but thats what the rumours say. Very few/if any large sized venues available in Galway though.


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    #1882
    Speak Now
    Registered Users Posts: 8,509 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    ben.schlomo wrote: »
    Yep id agree but thats what the rumours say. Very few/if any large sized venues available in Galway though.

    Are you just thinking pubs and restaurants though, look at the premises they bought in Waterford!


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    #1883
    cruhoortwunk
    Registered Users Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭cruhoortwunk


    RasTa wrote: »
    That's far too small for a weatherspoons
    Big enough if you include all the rooms though isn't it?


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    #1884
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    cruhoortwunk wrote: »
    Big enough if you include all the rooms though isn't it?

    No


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    #1885
    Stevek101
    Registered Users Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Stevek101


    Any update on the time frame for the Swords and Dublin City locations?


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    #1886
    squonk
    Registered Users Posts: 8,469 ✭✭✭squonk


    I thought the Cottage in Salthill was being run by GBB? Have they pulled out of late?


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    #1887
    Geuze
    Registered Users Posts: 13,087 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057364517&page=8


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    #1888
    loyatemu
    Registered Users Posts: 14,766 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Was in the Forty Foot today, food was ok, prices obviously very good and the building is nice (though much more of a restaurant than a bar), but the service was atrocious - not sure I'd go back. Was there for 2 hours, I'd say I spent 40 minutes of that queuing to order; I had to ask a waiter to go and find our food twice and I was overcharged (and saw someone else also complaining of being overcharged).

    They have a lot of staff wandering around the place, it would be much simpler to give them tablets and let them take the orders rather than their farcical "go to the bar" system.


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    #1889
    coylemj
    Registered Users Posts: 25,342 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    loyatemu wrote: »
    They have a lot of staff wandering around the place, it would be much simpler to give them tablets and let them take the orders rather than their farcical "go to the bar" system.

    Unless the tablets were attached to the staff by sturdy chains, they would probably go 'missing' before long plus you have the issue of how to handle the cash - they'd all need cash (float) bags and credit card machines.

    But I agree that it's silly that they can't at least go and get the coffee that you paid for when you ordered your meal, it really annoys me when I'm in the TTT and have to go back to the counter for my coffee even if there's lots of staff flouncing around with nothing to do.


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    #1890
    MonkstownHoop
    Registered Users Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    In my personal opinion having been to both a few times, there's a problem in the 40ft as regards service, the long bar needs more staff, something the TTT doesn't have to deal with.


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    #1891
    dregin
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/consumer/jd-wetherspoon-and-the-battle-of-the-beer-prices-1.2085542


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