Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

Took them long enough to figure out the number for 999

e92335i wrote: »

IMO It's 'safer' driving @ 140 with my car than 110kph in a.... lets say... 1.1 Peugeot 206. Or a 99 Avensis for that matter. Especially on what are statistically the safest roads in the country.

That the one with the steering lock fault?

Sherfin wrote: »

So, hopefully not as controversial :P
Saw this a couple of weeks ago on my way home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHZRI0vnnWA

Looks like she tried to pull a u-turn and ended up stuck perpendicular to the road, at night in a black car.:eek:

Was going to see if she needed help but she got the car in gear just as the video ended and went on her way

I am surprised the advert on the radio wasnt for Noyeks Newmans - Kitchen floors decks and doors

"Its almost 7 o'clock..." I hate those ads!!

Sorry for bumping an old video.

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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But this sign does not apply when traffic lights are in operation.

OK, I'll explain.
In Poland (and nearly everywhere on the Continent as far as I know), right of way on junctions is either decided by general law rules, road signs, traffic lights, or policeman directing traffic.
Priority is in order I listed.
So if there is junction without any signs, traffic lights, or policeman, then general rule of giving way to vehicles coming from the right apply.
If there are road signs (establishing which road had priority), then you forget about general rule of giving way to vehicle coming from the right, but just obey the signs.
If there are traffic lights, then you forget about general rule and the signs, and follow traffic light.
And if there is policeman on the junction, you forget about anything above, and just obey his signals (f.e. if you have red light but policeman points you to go, then you just go).

Every single junction with traffic light, is equipped with traffic signs showing priority. This is just for case when traffic lights are off or broken. Then people need to obey traffic signs. But when traffic lights are in operation, then you discard the signs.

In that video, camera drive had green light, and clio driver was going on red.

Jesus. wrote: »

Cinio, do you think it'd be just as safe to drive a 12 year old Corsa at 100mph as it would a new 5 series for example?

Does this question relate to any conversation recently, or is it just completely out of the blue??? Whatever...

IMO assuming the same road conditions, the same place, and the same driver with the same level of concentration, tiredness, etc, it will surely be safer in 5 series, just because it has better handling abilities, better braking, etc, and better crush zones and safety features in case accident happens.

On the other hand, safe speed will be different for everyone in every car and place.
It depends on circumstances, like type of car, driver and his abilities, skills, concentration, tiredness, road conditions, traffic amount, visibility, and million other factors.

It's very possible, that certain driver in certain road conditions will be perfectly safe in 12 year old corsa at 100mph, while for other driver, doing 40mph in new 5 series will be a big hazard.

It's all very relative.

PS - my dad had 00 Corsa 1.0 (14 year old) and fastest I managed to do with it was 155km/h (according to speedo so in reality if was even less). Not that easy to find a corsa which will do 100mph.

It won't work even with www added.

Oh look a video
(no mine just felt we needed a video in this thread)

Chippy01 wrote: »

No he didn't. [...]

Yes he did!

Chippy01 wrote: »

No he didn't.

Are you really going to argue?
Video is from Poland, so Polish law applies there. And believe me - I do know it.

Traffic lights or not, the cam-car was entering a major road from a minor road, through a Yield sign.

No he wasn't.
As traffic lights are there, there's no major and minor roads. Car which had green light has a priority. Car which had red light doesn't have priority. That would be about it.
Triangular sign "give way" is applicable only if traffic lights don't work.

Green does not mean GO, and go without care and attention; it means that you are allowed to proceed provided that it is safe to do so. In the cam-car's case, it certainly wasn't safe.

According to Polish law green light means you are allowed to drive through it. It doesn't say only if it's safe to do so.
On the other hand indeed there's another law in relation to junctions, which obliges driver to take extra care and attention when driving through the junctions.

I agree with you that for camera car it wasn't safe to go, as some idiot was breaking the red light. If he was more careful, accident wouldn't happen, but it's hard to see everything, and normally you wouldn't really expect someone to break the red light.

Straight through a Yield without checking that it was safe (i.e. some idiot barrelling through a red light, which seems to be very common judging by some of the vids on this thread) puts the cam-car in the wrong.

It doesn't put camera car in the wrong.
It's very simple situation - two cars colliding at the junction. One had red light, other had green light. Fault is very clear, and it lies 100% on side of driver who had red light. Road signs are completely irrelevant in that case.
And it's not really that common for drivers to be barrelling through red lights. Maybe through late-amber, but this clio driver definitely was going straight through red light.

As for a police officer controlled junction, yes you would obey his directions; as I doubt he would let you proceed into the path of other vehicles.

Well in short if you see policeman from his side it mean go. If you see policeman from front or back it means stop (same as green or red light). That way policeman can control traffic on junction by only twisting 90 degrees every minute or so.


And now question to you - I see you are of the opinion that in that video camera driver was at fault, as he went on green light through "yield" sign without checking for traffic coming.
If there was no "yield" sign there at all, would you still be of the same opinion?