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Malaysia Airlines plane shot down in Ukraine near Russian border[Mod warning post#193

keno-daytrader · 2014-07-17 15:06:33

11:04 (UA) Malaysia passenger aircraft has crashed near the Russia border with Ukraine; flight was from Amsterdamn to Kuala Lumpur - Russia press 11:04 (UA) Malaysia passenger aircraft (Boeing 777) has crashed (other reports indicate it was 'shot down') near the Russia border with Ukraine; flight was from Amsterdamn to…

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#32 17-07-2014 4:44pm
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Good lord, isn't that a route to Australia/NZ via Kuala Lumpur?

Jesus

edit: no survivors according to the minister in Ukraine. RIP

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#33 17-07-2014 4:44pm
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knucklehead6 wrote: »

doubtful if it was at the altitude reported by jack

We can only hope and pray tbh. Very sad news and a huge below to the Airline.

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#34 17-07-2014 4:45pm
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Jack1985 wrote: »

Interfax saying the aircraft was shot down at an altitude of 10km above Ukraine

10,000m

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#35 17-07-2014 4:46pm
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Its being reported and its not yet 100% confirmed that a Buk Missile was used and that the plane was in Ukraine air space when contact with the aircraft was lost.

Buk

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#36 17-07-2014 4:46pm
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Thats all risky aispace and has been NOTAM'd (Notice to Airmen) for the last couple of months, this is public info....

POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS SITUATION UKRAINE AIRSPACE, PARTICULARLY OVER
CRIMEA, THE BLACK SEA, AND THE SEA OF AZOV.

DUE TO THE POTENTIAL FOR CONFLICTING AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL (ATC)
INSTRUCTIONS FROM UKRAINIAN AND RUSSIAN AUTHORITIES AND FOR THE
RELATED POTENTIAL MISIDENTIFICATION OF CIVIL AIRCRAFT, IRISH
AIRCRAFT OPERATORS ARE STRONGLY ADVISED TO AVOID, UNTIL FURTHER
NOTICE,

THE AIRSPACE OVER CRIMEA, THE BLACK SEA, AND THE SEA OF
AZOV, WITHIN THE FOLLOWING LATERAL LIMITS:
454500N 0345800E-460900N 0360000E-460000N 0370000E-452700N 0364100E-
452242N 0364100E-451824N 0363524E-451442N 0363542E-451218N 0363200E-
450418N 0363418E-445600N 0363700E-443100N 0364000E-424400N 0361600E-
424700N 0340000E-424800N 0304500E-434100N 0303200E-441500N 0302400E-
444600N 0300900E-455400N 0322500E-454900N 0324700E-455400N 0330600E-
455600N 0332700E-455900N 0332900E-THEN ALONG THE CRIMEA BORDER TO
454500N 0345800E.

UNILATERAL ACTION TO ESTABLISH A NEW SIMFEROPOL (URFV) FIR THAT
INCLUDES BOTH UKRAINIAN SOVEREIGN AIRSPACE OVER THE CRIMEAN
PENINSULA AND INTERNATIONAL HIGH SEAS AIRSPACE MANAGED BY UKRAINE
CONTRADICTS INTERNATIONAL LAW AND ICAO ANNEX 11 STANDARDS.

UKRAINE NOTAM A0528/14, PUBLISHED 28 MAR 20:14 2014, REJECTS NOTAM
A0907/14 PUBLISHED BY THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION. UKRAINE CONTINUES TO
PROVIDE AIR TRAFFIC SERVICES (ATS) IN THE AIRSPACE DESCRIBED IN THE
PARAGRAPH ABOVE AND RUSSIA IS ALSO PROVIDING ATS IN THAT AIRSPACE.
FURTHERMORE, UKRAINE NOTAM A0520/14, PUBLISHED 28 MAR 16:59 2014,
CREATES A PROHIBITED AREA OVER THE CRIMEAN PENINSULA FOR OPERATIONS
BELOW FL290, AND UKRAINE NOTAMS A0524/14 AND A0569/14 CLOSE VARIOUS
ATS ROUTE SEGMENTS.

RUSSIAN FEDERATION NOTAM A0912/14 REJECTS AND
DIRECTLY CONFLICTS WITH UKRAINE NOTAMS A0520/14 AND A0524/14.
CONSEQUENTLY, THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR CIVIL AIRCRAFT TO RECEIVE
CONFUSING AND CONFLICTING ATC INSTRUCTIONS WHILE OPERATING IN THE
DISPUTED AIRSPACE.

OPERATIONS ARE NORMAL IN ALL OTHER UKRAINE FIRS.

HOWEVER, IRISH OPERATORS FLYING INTO, OUT OF, OR WITHIN LVOV (UKLV),
KYIV (UKBV), DNEPTROPETROVSK (UKDV), AND ODESSA (UKOV) FIRS, AS WELL
AS AIRSPACE IN SIMFEROPOL (UKFV) FIR THAT IS OUTSIDE THE LATERAL Page 6 of 16
LIMITS OF THE AIRSPACE OVER CRIMEA, THE BLACK SEA, THE SEA OF AZOV
DESCRIBED IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THIS NOTAM, SHOULD REVIEW
CURRENT SECURITY/THREAT INFORMATION AND NOTAMS.

THE CONTENT OF THIS NOTAM SAFETY WILL BE RE-EVALUATED BY 30 JUN 2014.
FROM: 01 JUL 2014 08:45 TO: 01 AUG 2014 00:01

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#37 17-07-2014 4:46pm
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Flightradar24 says it was at FL330 (33000ft)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=742258872480205&set=a.116008071771958.7699.111607872211978&type=1&theater

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#38 17-07-2014 4:47pm
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Sully wrote: »

Devastating news. Awful sad on the families of those on the plane. Really really hope there are survivors.

Almost as much chance of it not being shot down to be honest.

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#39 17-07-2014 4:48pm
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A Ukrainian interior ministry official, Anton Geraschenko, says that all 295 people aboard have died.

Mr Geraschenko has written on his Facebook page that the plane was flying at an altitude of 10,000 meters (33,000 feet) when it was hit Thursday by a missile fired from a Buk launcher.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article4150129.ece

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#40 17-07-2014 4:48pm
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A MALAYSIAN Airlines passenger plane with 295 people has crashed in Ukraine today after being reportedly shot down by Russian authorities.

The Boeing 777 went down near the Russian border according to an aviation industry source.

According to the Interfax News Agency flight MH17 was travelling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it was downed. It is not clear if there have been any fatalities.

The news agency claimed that the Malaysian Airlines passenger plane was shot down by Russian authorities but that has yet to be confirmed.

A Malaysia Airlines official has confirmed the plane has crashed and they are due to make a statement shortly.

The company also tweeted to say that they lost contact with MH17 after it took off from Amsterdam and its last known location was over Ukrainian airspace.

They posted on Twitter: "Malaysia Airlines has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam. The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace. More details to follow."

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#41 17-07-2014 4:49pm
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thebannerboy wrote: »

10,000m

Last time I checked 10Km = 10,000m.

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#42 17-07-2014 4:50pm
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Just heard this on the news....just that contact had been lost with ac....Holy Moly! :eek:

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#43 17-07-2014 4:50pm
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Cookiemunster wrote: »

Last time I checked 10Km = 10,000m.

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#44 17-07-2014 4:50pm
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What's going to happen the world if Al Queda or ISIS ever get there hands on weapons like these? We would be like ducks in a barrel up there.

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#45 17-07-2014 4:52pm
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There's already a thread on this disaster.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057251233

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#46 17-07-2014 4:53pm
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gordongekko wrote: »

Check again

1km = 1000m so 10km is 10,000m

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#47 17-07-2014 4:53pm
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http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS17/history/20140717/1000Z/EHAM/WMKK/tracklog

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#48 17-07-2014 4:54pm
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Crazy.. Why were they flying low over a warzone?

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#49 17-07-2014 4:56pm
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Holy bloody Moly! :eek:

What I have heard now is that Russian separists claimed (earlier) that they had shot down a Ukrainian military ac.

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#50 17-07-2014 4:56pm
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Shooting down a major passenger jet is huge. This will blow up all over international news media.

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#51 17-07-2014 4:57pm
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Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Shooting down a major passenger jet is huge. This will blow up all over international news media.

I think it could do more than that :eek: This could be very bad.... for now my thoughts are with the passengers and their families

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#52 17-07-2014 4:59pm
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Russia did shoot down a jet earlier today

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28345039

Could it be the same group?

Could of been Ukraine thinking it was a Russian jet?? In retaliation??

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#53 17-07-2014 4:59pm
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Excuse the language, but this is totally FÚCKED UP if it turns out to be true that it was shot down. God Bless everyone on board

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#54 17-07-2014 5:00pm
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CNN will be loving this. Cue weeks of broadcasting another round of aviation tragedy porn

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#55 17-07-2014 5:00pm
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I was due to be in that plane but changed to Wednesdays flight I'm devastated at how close to death I came

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#56 17-07-2014 5:00pm
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If true it's a cock up of truly staggering proportions.

I still can't believe 300 people are dead just like that...this one will hit closer to home than MH370 that's for sure.

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#57 17-07-2014 5:01pm
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DOCARCH wrote: »

Holy bloody Moly! :eek:

What I have heard now is that Russian separists claimed (earlier) that they had shot down a Ukrainian military ac.

If they were Russian separatists, how in the name of God did they get their hands on such a weapon? Russia?

There's going to be massive international consequences as a result of this I reckon

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#58 17-07-2014 5:01pm
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If it was Russia...then not unprecedented. I am old enough (o.k. it was only 1983) to remember KAL 007

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#59 17-07-2014 5:02pm
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Stinicker wrote: »

I was due to be in that plane but changed to Wednesdays flight I'm devastated at how close to death I came

That true??

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#60 17-07-2014 5:02pm
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Reports saying that video is of the jet that was earlier shot down

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flanzer wrote: »

If they were Russian separatists, how in the name of God did they get their hands on such a weapon? Russia?

Well...yeah, of course!

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