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Malaysia Airlines flight MH370-Updates and Discussion

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    #2552
    wretcheddomain
    Registered Users Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    relaxed wrote: »
    Ryanair would be able to pack 'em in.

    ...while charging them a fee for printing out the tickets...


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    #2553
    Thrill
    Registered Users Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    DieselPowered wrote: »
    Did anyone spot this yet? There have been Flight 370's flying since the disappearance, why cancel it now?

    That number was retired march 14 (today) as a mark of respect. The number was changed to MH318


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    #2554
    relaxed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭relaxed


    sully2010 wrote: »
    Of course I have no evidence, nobody does but everyone has an opinion and yes I am beginning to suspect one or possibly both of the pilots may have had something to do with it because:

    If it was a mid air explosion/decompression wreckage would have been found in areas they have searched already on or near their flightpath.

    If they turned back towards KL with an emergency and crashed on the way wreckage would have been found.

    If it was terrorism there would have been demands by now for whatever it was they were after.

    I'm not going to speculate what the pilots may have done but there has been several incidents in the past on commercial airliners with suicides and mental breakdowns of pilots so I wouldn't exactly call what has already happened in the past some kind of conspiracy.

    When you have no evidence you have a theory.

    When your theory is based on a powerful person having a secret plan (in this case the pilot being the powerful person plotting a secret plan because he has a simulator) you get a conspiracy theory.


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    #2555
    El_robbo1980
    Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭El_robbo1980


    Flight number retired as a mark of respect

    http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2014/03/13/mh370-flight-code-retired/


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    #2556
    sully2010
    Registered Users Posts: 593 ✭✭✭sully2010


    relaxed wrote: »
    When you have no evidence you have a theory.

    When your theory is based on a powerful person having a secret plan (in this case the pilot being the powerful person plotting a secret plan because he has a simulator) you get a conspiracy theory.

    I never once alluded to that, get your facts straight


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    #2557
    mike65
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    Channel 5 are going live with this at 9 pm tonight for an hour.


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    #2558
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    So whats the score with picking up a signal (or signals) from the plane, providing its crashed into the sea?

    Question; Is it strange that the black box signal cannot be heard at this stage, or does the vast amount of ocean mean that looking for electronic signals may mean getting very close to the crash site before the black box signal is received?


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    #2559
    lifeandtimes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭lifeandtimes


    does anyone know what will happen with MA now they don't have a plane?

    Like they must have insurance when a plane crashes so what would be the procedure when one goes missing while full?

    Not being disrespectful the people on board im just curious as to what process is in place(if any) for when a plane disappears,do they get paid for insurance,do they pay the peoples relatives on board compensation?


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    #2560
    Ole Rodrigo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭Ole Rodrigo


    Good article on The Atlantic explaining the data transmission & satellite systems.

    http://bit.ly/1o2zDEG


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    #2561
    jescart
    Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭jescart


    Very good documentary on sky one at the moment just summarizing all the facts known so far


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    #2562
    Duiske
    Registered Users Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    theKillerBite wrote: »
    The Airbus A320 that landed in the Hudson was a narrow body jet, a wide body jet would be a disaster if it hit water.

    I believe airspeed was a factor there too. Traveling at a little under 250 km/h when it ditched.


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    #2563
    sully2010
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    relaxed wrote: »
    Ryanair would be able to pack 'em in.

    Joking about passengers missing and presumed dead, nice.


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    #2564
    Sitec
    Registered Users Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Sitec


    If anything is to come from this awful incident is that a black box and cockpit recorder are not enough.

    Data from commercial aircraft needs to be sent to a central base at all times.

    These systems are already available for commercial vehicles and I'm fully aware that these are on land but surely some satellites etc could be launched to give this ability to airlines.


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    #2565
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    sully2010 wrote: »
    Joking about passengers missing and presumed dead, nice.

    Ah it wasn't really, in fairness.


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    #2566
    theKillerBite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 195 ✭✭theKillerBite


    I suspect we will never get an answer to this 'crash'. Just like SilkAir 185, the person in control of the aircraft will have the sense to turn off the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder, just like they turned off the transponder.

    article-malaysia-map-0314.jpg
    The official, speaking on condition of anonymity to the Associated Press, said the fact that the plane's transponder stopped about a dozen minutes before a messaging system quit pointed to "human intervention."

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-divert-andaman-islands-article-1.1721523#ixzz2vyKJLMS0


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    #2567
    Captain Chaos
    Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Story on Sky News saying that there were signals received from the aircraft up to 5 hours after it went off radar screens. Indicating that it was still flying 5 hours after it's vanished from ATC. An aircraft can cross the Atlantic in 5 hours so where is it? The search area has now expanded into the Indian Ocean as a result of these new facts.


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    #2568
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Can someone post a map with the max distance the plane could have traveled, can't find the one posted before, cheers :)


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    #2569
    Captain Chaos
    Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Can someone post a map with the max distance the plane could have traveled, can't find the one posted before, cheers :)

    There is one in the thread already, way, way back.


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    #2570
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Captain Chaos wrote: »
    Story on Sky News saying that there were signals received from the aircraft up to 5 hours after it went off radar screens. Indicating that it was still flying 5 hours after it's vanished from ATC. An aircraft can cross the Atlantic in 5 hours so where is it? The search area has now expanded into the Indian Ocean as a result of these new facts.

    Are these actually facts now or just unconfirmed leaks from unnamed sources?

    Not having a go at your post btw just interested if there has been anything actually confirmed.


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    #2571
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Captain Chaos wrote: »
    There is one in the thread already, way, way back.

    Yeah, I know, hence the "can't find the one posted before"


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    #2572
    Fred Swanson
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    #2573
    Panda_Turtle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 304 ✭✭Panda_Turtle


    mike65 wrote: »
    Channel 5 are going live with this at 10 pm tonight for an hour.

    At nine this is? Repeated at ten on channel five +1 (I'm using the 'other channels' part of sky)


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    #2574
    KERSPLAT!
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
    MalaysiaRange_graphic.jpg[IMG][/img]

    Many thanks :)


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    #2575
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Christ, I didn't realise how far it could actually go!! I know they are looking close to the last know position but in reality, it could be anywhere!! I know that that's stating the obvious but it has only just dawned on me now, the vast area that may need to be covered


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    #2576
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    These pings that the satellite systems detected, do we know for sure that they give location data? I'm just trying to figure out why they're still searching a 5 hour flight range, if there was a ping given off with location data, 6 hours into the flight if ye understand what I'm asking? Since it probably had no fuel left at that point, wouldn't that confine the search area?


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    #2577
    Reoil
    Registered Users Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Reoil


    Live program about this on UK's Channel5 now, by the way.


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    #2578
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    Reoil wrote: »
    Live program about this on UK's Channel5 now, by the way.

    Is that channel available on Sky basic package?


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    #2579
    geneva geneva4444
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭geneva geneva4444


    Well Channel 5 predictably have bottled it. Presenter is choking like a pig!!


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    #2580
    Panda_Turtle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 304 ✭✭Panda_Turtle


    sopretty wrote: »
    Is that channel available on Sky basic package?

    Take your viewing card out. Its near where rte would usually be. Otherwise you can add it via"other channels"..Google it! Am on tablet


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    #2581
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    Panda_Turtle wrote: »
    Take your viewing card out. Its near where rte would usually be. Otherwise you can add it via"other channels"..Google it! Am on tablet

    The programme would be the over by the time I'd have managed to google and install lol. Thanks though.


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