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Are you going to pay the household charge? [Part 1]

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    #6902
    Orando Broom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    tayto lover wrote: »
    We will put manners on them this time.
    I have never saw a people who are so angry before.
    Old and young united in fighting this.

    We'll see. A week is a long time in politics. I expect a lot of chilly feet and not from the lack of heating!;)

    I predict a stalemate, enough pay it to warrant a review, and a six month stay will be announced. Compliance will be attained by drip feed over the intervening period. It's the Irish way.

    The excuse is already inbuilt; difficult payment method, that will be addressed and changed to a cash also method in POs and elsewhere (possibly like the road toll fees). Time is required to fine tune. They'll pick off the recalcitrant in small pockets, enough to scare the general population into compliance.


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    #6903
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Orando Broom wrote: »
    We'll see. A week is a long time in politics. I expect a lot of chilly feet and not from the lack of heating!;)


    I assume you have paid it?


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    #6904
    Ecu
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭Ecu


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    I assume you have paid it?

    I'm guessing here, but would say not?


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    #6905
    Where To
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    tayto lover wrote: »
    We will put manners on them this time.
    I have never saw a people who are so angry before.
    Old and young united in fighting this.
    I haven't met one single person angered by the household charge.
    Slightly annoyed but paying anyway maybe, but not angered.

    And I'm a taxi driver in a disadvantaged area :eek:


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    #6906
    Orando Broom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    I assume you have paid it?

    Renting. So I'm exempt. I probably wouldn't pay it initially but I'd be cagey. First sign of cracks in the dam, I'd not be last out of the valley. Probably like most. This is a numbers game. Volume wins.


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    #6907
    Sionach
    Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Sionach


    Where To wrote: »
    tayto lover wrote: »
    We will put manners on them this time.
    I have never saw a people who are so angry before.
    Old and young united in fighting this.
    I haven't met one single person angered by the household charge.
    Slightly annoyed but paying anyway maybe, but not angered.

    And I'm a taxi driver in a disadvantaged area :eek:
    You should bring that taxi around my area. I've lost count of the number of people who are angered,annoyed and down right p**sed of at the tax and the government.

    I am now hearing people who have been anti Sin Fein all their lives preparing to vote them into Government at the earliest opportunity.


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    #6908
    Sionach
    Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Sionach


    Where To wrote: »
    tayto lover wrote: »
    We will put manners on them this time.
    I have never saw a people who are so angry before.
    Old and young united in fighting this.
    I haven't met one single person angered by the household charge.
    Slightly annoyed but paying anyway maybe, but not angered.

    And I'm a taxi driver in a disadvantaged area :eek:
    You should bring that taxi around my area. I've lost count of the number of people who are angered,annoyed and down right p**sed of at the tax and the government.

    I am now hearing people who have been anti Sin Fein all their lives preparing to vote them into Government at the earliest opportunity.


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    #6909
    Pete M.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    Some of the stuff on here is hysterical!

    Excellent :D

    Was at a meeting tonight, pretty rural setting, over 60 at it.
    None paying, getting ready for whatever Big Phil and his gang throw at us.

    I wonder if they'll set up a register of who isn't going to pay, because I'd put my name on that no bother.

    After being part of a campaign for the past couple of months, I reckon I'd easily have over 100 people in the local district court room and if you've been in one lately you'd know how difficult a situation that could become.

    Bring it!

    Don't register (unless it's not to pay). Don't pay :pac::pac::pac:


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    #6910
    mattroche
    Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭mattroche


    Retired a year ago, and returned here for good. My Household Charge in the U.K. was £ 80 per month ( £ 960 P.A.) for a small Flat. I have no problem paying the charge here out of my old age pension, and intended to do so until to-day. I have just learned of the St. Patricks Day Junkets that my local councellors have gone away on, which to me is a complete waste of money. I assume that thier partners ( Wifes/ Husbands ) went too. I would accept Senior Ministers can make a good case for going,but that is it. For other Micky Mouse local Politicans, this is not on. Would like viewers to check with thier local councils, who went where, and how much did it cost.? Then decide if you want to pay your Council Tax, so that it can be wasted in this way.


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    #6911
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Where To wrote: »
    I haven't met one single person angered by the household charge.
    Slightly annoyed but paying anyway maybe, but not angered.
    Not one single person?
    Lies.
    Where To wrote: »

    And I'm a taxi driver in a disadvantaged area :eek:

    According to some posters here, that could be anywhere!
    What radio station do you listen to btw?


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    #6912
    DoesNotCompute
    Registered Users Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭DoesNotCompute


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I would live in the dark with a rain barrel for water if necessary before i'd pay this tax on my home. No chance.

    Good luck with that.

    Water in a rain barrel is not suitable for drinking, without reverse osmosis and/or UV filtering. Also rain water picks up chemicals from your roof as it goes down your drain.


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    #6913
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    black francis wrote: »
    'Someone' usurped the democratically elected governance of our country.

    *cough*

    Actually FG and Labour did.

    Don't be so reluctant to name and shame.


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    #6914
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    donalg1 wrote: »
    You reply to that post by name calling!! Good lad


    Well spotted Donal - didn't think you were that...eh....alert :rolleyes:


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    #6915
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    Ecu wrote: »
    Will the household charge mood feed into the coming referendum?

    If people have any balls it will.

    (But I'm not holding my breath - after all folk voted FG/Lab to get change - there is one born every minute as TP once said).

    I thinks betimes that stupid sheep deserve to be fleeced; then me more benign side does takes hold and I try to help them. :cool:


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    #6916
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    DoesNotCompute wrote: »
    Also rain water picks up chemicals from your roof as it goes down your drain.


    Whereas your house tax money will just go straight down the drain into the sewer containing the German Banking System, picking up nothing along the way. ;)


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    #6917
    2pack
    Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    If the charge was going to something worthwhile like above mentioned Crumlin i would gladly pay but of course it wont and its always the case, Its because this government are clueless and are only out for themselves and only care about getting the revenue in by any means possible and are out of touch with the people.

    How can we trust a Government that lied to us for their own gains ie to get into power.

    Im disgusted with them and the worst thing is, they think they have done nothing wrong and that we will forget all about it.

    And "Septic Phil" (Hogan) does not do himself or his cronies in government any favours either with his threatening behaviour and arrogance,

    Its on a matter of principle that I and now know most of my local area will NOT be paying these crazy charges,


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    #6918
    goz83
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭goz83


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    Whereas your house tax money will just go straight down the drain into the sewer containing the German Banking System, picking up nothing along the way. ;)

    That's not on! It will pick up the mood of the bond holders laughing all the way home, to a home they most likely pay no tax on.


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    #6919
    DoesNotCompute
    Registered Users Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭DoesNotCompute


    Seen Mick Wally driving down Westland Row past Pearse station this morning, in his BMW jeep. (Amazingly, he wasn't driving into oncoming traffic this time)

    Nice to see the downtrodden working class hero can still afford to keep his jeep on the road by not paying his taxes.


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    #6920
    donalg1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭donalg1


    DoesNotCompute wrote: »
    Seen Mick Wally driving down Westland Row past Pearse station this morning, in his BMW jeep. (Amazingly, he was driving into oncoming traffic this time)

    Nice to see the downtrodden working class hero can still afford to keep his jeep on the road by not paying his taxes.

    He doesnt pay into his employees pensions either which helps keep the auld jeep on the road.


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    #6921
    DoesNotCompute
    Registered Users Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭DoesNotCompute


    Wonder if he's paid his road tax on that? ;)


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    #6922
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    tayto lover wrote: »
    We will put manners on them this time.

    You'll end up paying your tax, along with whatever fines are applicable.

    Property taxes are happening regardless of your opinion of the govt and their 'manners'. We need to build a sustainable revenue model, and property tax forms a part of that model.


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    #6923
    goz83
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭goz83


    alastair wrote: »
    You'll end up paying your tax, along with whatever fines are applicable.

    Property taxes are happening regardless of your opinion of the govt and their 'manners'. We need to build a sustainable revenue model, and property tax forms a part of that model.

    The household charge is NOT a property tax, as has been mentioned countless times throughout this thread. The property tax to replace the household charge is expected to be coming online in 2014.

    Anger at the government prevents them from completely destroying everything. Imagine if everyone smiled at every tax and charge the government piled on top of us. We would live in a very different place. The rich would be telling us all that their money comes from lucky horses.


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    #6924
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    DoesNotCompute wrote: »
    Good luck with that.

    Water in a rain barrel is not suitable for drinking, without reverse osmosis and/or UV filtering. Also rain water picks up chemicals from your roof as it goes down your drain.

    Its a wonder we survived before the 20th century

    Reverse osmosis discovered in 18th one, but viable in 20th.


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    #6925
    OurLadyofKnock
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 558 ✭✭✭OurLadyofKnock


    Can anyone show me the service contract I signed to get these services? I can't seem to be able to locate it.


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    #6926
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    goz83 wrote: »
    The household charge is NOT a property tax, as has been mentioned countless times throughout this thread. The property tax to replace the household charge is expected to be coming online in 2014.

    Anger at the government prevents them from completely destroying everything. Imagine if everyone smiled at every tax and charge the government piled on top of us. We would live in a very different place. The rich would be telling us all that their money comes from lucky horses.

    The household charge is obviously a property tax. It's a flat rate property tax, to be replaced with a tiered rate property tax - two kinds of property tax.

    Anger isn't going to sway the need to rebuild our revenue structures - sorry.


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    #6927
    crusher000
    Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭crusher000


    What about all the chemicals our local water suppliers put in the water ? Fluroide etc. Some people should really think first before they sprout nonsense to others.


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    #6928
    goz83
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭goz83


    OurLadyofKnock wrote: »
    Can anyone show me the service contract I signed to get these services? I can't seem to be able to locate it.

    You'll find it beside the contract Enda & Phil signed with the Germans and Satan to suck the lives from our bodies.

    They failed with two world wars, so they moved to politics and via the european union they now have a great deal of the power they sought in the past. Better to spend money on banks than on tanks eh?


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    #6929
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I'll consider my next move when the court summons is in my hand.

    Time to make a stand now. I'm done paying makey uppy taxes.


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    #6930
    OurLadyofKnock
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 558 ✭✭✭OurLadyofKnock


    Shenshen wrote: »
    It's €100, that's around €8.33 a month.

    I'm finding it absolutely baffling how people can get worked up over this, yet will happily spend as much on a single drink on a night out....

    Get a grip. Seriously.

    I am poor and I do not drink. I am not a civil servant - so money to me is not something which just magically appears thanks to the Partnership Fairy.

    Believe it or not that's a meaningful sum of money in my world.

    Maybe not yours at whatever Government department you have a job for life.


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    #6931
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    I'll consider my next move when the court summons is in my hand.

    Time to make a stand now. I'm done paying makey uppy taxes.

    I think you'll find all taxes are 'makey uppy'.


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