Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

15 year old boy who had consensual sex with 14 year old girl faces 5 years in prison

Options
1…6791112

Comments

  • Options
    #242
    UglyBolloxFace
    Registered Users Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭UglyBolloxFace


    dioltas wrote: »
    My sarcasm detector is going off the scale. I just wanted to let people know if they didn't already tbh because I think it's a terrible injustice.

    Yeah but when you start a thread you are supposed to give your own input too, not just a link. It's common ****ing sense.


  • Options
    #243
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Sharrow wrote: »
    Not really given the amount of victim blaming that gets done,
    The notion that female rape victims are to blame for being in the situation in the first place is in line with that.

    Obviously. Also all men are rapists.


  • Options
    #244
    St.Spodo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭St.Spodo


    Ireland is weird about sex. That's all I have to say, really.


  • Options
    #245
    Morag
    Registered Users Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭Morag


    amacachi wrote: »
    Obviously. Also all men are rapists.

    :rolleyes:

    No they are not but currently legally women can't be in the same way men are which is wrong.

    This law is farcical. It is saying that young women are not responsible enough to know what they are doing when they have under age sex and have no idea of the consequences (such as pregnancy) and how to avoid them.


  • Options
    #246
    Fenian Army
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    Don't blame the judges, blame the constitution. They were asked if it was unconstitutional, it isnt. Their own opinions on the morality or whatever aren't taken into account.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #247
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Boy gets up to 5 years in prison for breaking a law designed to protect him.

    Only in Ireland...


  • Options
    #248
    antonymous
    Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭antonymous


    amacachi wrote: »
    the judge gets to decide whether or not the law is ok. He/she could've ruled either way. He/she knows that if it goes to Europe that it'll be overturned anyway so why not make a little more work for the people he/she went to college with and their nieces and nephews who are working as interns etc. in other courts.

    Exactly..
    Nodin wrote: »
    ... We have a political class of assholes, lads and lassies.

    Indeed..

    Sums up exactly what's going on here..


  • Options
    #249
    Seasoft
    Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭Seasoft


    This article http://www.herald.ie/news/girl-15-becomes-a-mum-for-second-time-3029300.html puts this judgement in some context.

    If 10 under 16s give birth every month, where are the 10 similar prosecutions every month? I suspect that neither the DPP nor the Gardai really want to prosecute these peer sex cases, but some pressure was applied in this instance.


  • Options
    #250
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Bad Panda wrote: »
    Where are all the feminist groups lobbying for equality? :rolleyes:
    Where are the men out protesting this ruling (which is an extremely unjust one)?


  • Options
    #251
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Words cannot describe how pissed off I am after reading this. :mad:
    How does one take something to the ECJ? IS there a procedure in place? I'll gladly throw my weight behind any campaign to do so.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #252
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Dudess wrote: »
    Where are the men out protesting this ruling (which is an extremely unjust one)?

    Unfortunately men are not great when it comes to fighting unjust laws which discriminate against them. Just look at the family law.


  • Options
    #253
    coffee_cake
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    Sharrow wrote: »
    Not really given the amount of victim blaming that gets done,
    The notion that female rape victims are to blame for being in the situation in the first place is in line with that.

    http://i.imgur.com/CX9sz.jpg


  • Options
    #254
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Bad Panda wrote: »
    Where are all the feminist groups lobbying for equality? :rolleyes:
    Dudess wrote: »
    Where are the men out protesting this ruling (which is an extremely unjust one)?

    I'm sure there are both feminists, non-feminists, women and men that are in protest of the law. Can we not go through the blaming each other like spoiled little children routine again please? And lay the blame where it belongs, at the feet of the State. Kthnxbai.


  • Options
    #255
    coffee_cake
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    is the guy being prosecuted now? has he been sentenced to anything or is it all still going?


  • Options
    #256
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    bluewolf wrote: »
    is the guy being prosecuted now? has he been sentenced to anything or is it all still going?

    As far as I know he is still awaiting trial as the law its self was challenged after he was charged but before the trial could commence.

    (I'm actually not certain on this though --- Can anyone confirm?)


  • Options
    #257
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Said in one of the articles I read that charges are still pending. Given he's at least 16/17 now if he gets as far as Europe he'll be around college age by then. If he doesn't take it further and goes to court with the charges as they are.


  • Options
    #258
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    frisbeeface wrote: »
    Brilliantly, under this law the girl COULD be prosecuted also if buggery occured, it's only intercourse which the girl has an exemption from.

    Can't believe that this is from 2006 and upheld in 2012.

    A good (and short) article about the high court judgment: http://www.extempore.ie/2011/04/15/md-a-minor-v-ireland-sex-equality-and-the-constitution/
    So anal sex between consenting minors leaves both parties open to prosecution while vaginal sex leaves only the male juvenile open to prosecution. So teenage boys up and down the land will be insisting on anal only from now on...parents of teenage girls across Ireland can sleep easy tonight.


  • Options
    #259
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    So teenage boys up and down the land will be insisting on anal only from now on...

    And it'll be blamed on porn and the objectification of women.


  • Options
    #260
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Yeah, maybe we can change the name of the supreme court to the 'up the bum, no harm done' court


  • Options
    #261
    Doc Ruby
    Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Seasoft wrote: »
    I suspect that neither the DPP nor the Gardai really want to prosecute these peer sex cases, but some pressure was applied in this instance.
    Its always been like that in Ireland though, back when homosexuality was illegal it was pretty rare for known gay bars and hangouts to be raided. Most guards use their discretion in law enforcement, I guess that can be a good or bad thing depending on the situation. Look at the blasphemy law, you'll never see a prosecution from that.

    We're a modern liberal nation saddled with a constitution set up by what I would call a dangerously unbalanced individual and Fianna Fáil, no more need be said really.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #262
    bleg
    Registered Users Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    AngryBollix wrote: »
    How many people here had sex before their 17th birthday?



    This is boards. We're all nerds.


    Seriousness: Hope he goes to European Court of Justice.


  • Options
    #263
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    strobe wrote: »
    Bad Panda wrote: »
    Where are all the feminist groups lobbying for equality? :rolleyes:
    Dudess wrote: »
    Where are the men out protesting this ruling (which is an extremely unjust one)?

    I'm sure there are both feminists, non-feminists, women and men that are in protest of the law. Can we not go through the blaming each other like spoiled little children routine again please? And lay the blame where it belongs, at the feet of the State. Kthnxbai.
    Not blaming anyone.


  • Options
    #264
    Jake187
    Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭Jake187


    Bad Panda wrote: »
    Where are all the feminist groups lobbying for equality? :rolleyes:

    Well said.


  • Options
    #265
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    So it begins, the stone-throwing of the keyboard warriors. Yay.


  • Options
    #266
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Jake187 wrote: »
    Bad Panda wrote: »
    Where are all the feminist groups lobbying for equality? :rolleyes:

    Well said.
    ... if said non stop here rather than actually going out and doing something.


  • Options
    #267
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Overheal wrote: »
    Well, I know this will never happen, but if youre a minor and if you find yourself to be "Guilty" of the same offence as this Lad:

    Come forth.

    If truly there are Thousands of offending Teens, if they all came forward at once, the Courts would have two choices: Ammend the Law, or Imprison Thousands of Teens.

    yeah but no


  • Options
    #268
    Blinky D
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭Blinky D


    A lot of teenage guy's are gonna have a "headache", for the next... well 15 seconds. Then they will lose blood flow to the brain.
    If she says yes, a teenage guy CAN'T say no.


  • Options
    #269
    up for anything
    Registered Users Posts: 5,776 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Buggery - fair play to them and their varied sex life! :D

    I say burn the two of them at the stake.


  • Options
    #270
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    bleg wrote: »
    Seriousness: Hope he goes to European Court of Justice.

    That is the place to take it.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #271
    IrishEyes19
    Registered Users Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭IrishEyes19


    14/15 is way too young IMO, don't think people that age are emotionally equipped for sex yet, but that's just my view on it.

    but it's absolutely horrendous that a law like this could exist to prosecute this boy for this. Completely wrong.


Advertisement