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The Faith No More Appreciation Thread

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  • 19-04-2011 1:12am
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    Registered Users Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭


    Fücking hell, do I love this band!? I'm sure most of the R&M regulars knows this, but holy shït they are awesome!

    Maybe it's me in a giddy mood, I listen to FNM a lot, but I just started listening to King For A Day Fool For A Lifetime in good quality headphones and if one ever needs reassurance of their love of a band this would be it. I remember seeing them in the Olympia on the 27th of August 2009 (a date I know off by heart) and I felt almost complete, it was a joyous day and if they get back together again to do more touring I'll make sure I dish out to see them more than the once, follow them to festivals and check out other bands and stuff.

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    I remember first getting into them, my brother got the Very Best of Faith No More back many many years ago and we were on our way back from the airport with Dad and he had this in stereo and I remember thinking "This is totally class", the album collection grew, going from The Real Thing to Angel Dust, and I topped it off with KFAD, Album Of The Year, We Care A Lot and Introduce Yourself and I declared them my favourite band ever, and still are to this very day.

    This grew to Mr. Bungle albums, Fantômas albums, Tomahawk albums, a Peeping Tom record, Adult Themes For Voice, Mondo Cane, The Crank 2 OST (among other OST's), video games, following the wacky world of John Zorn, and other things — all on Patton's side. As well as following Billy's work as a composer, work with Jello Biafra (getting me into Dead Kennedy's), Brujeria, Harmful; Roddy's band Imperial Teen; along with Puffy working with Ozzy, Jerry Cantrell and so on.

    They've done so much for me as a fan of music, also expanding my horizons to Trey Spruance's Secret Chiefs 3, and Trevor Dunn's Madlove. Billy's cool-as-fück bass playing brought me bass. Kudo's to an unbelievable band! :)



    To most of you, I imagine, I must sound like a blabbering idiot who's bullshïtting on about stuff you mightn't even care about (and I apologise for the very longwinded love fest), but I hope I reflected the feelings of some of you!

    Please, leave you're thoughts on the bands, good or bad! ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    My brother, younger brother mind, got into Faith No More before me. I was a convert when he'd come home and start blasting the music at all hours or when he'd suggest at random times that I listen to FNM to cheer myself up, or burn off some energy, or maybe just to help me eat breakfast lol - point was, he loved Faith No More

    Anyway, when I worked in Edinburgh, I got wind of the band reuniting and playing at this tiny venue (that BFMV had once played a few months before) and after confirming it wasn't a mistake I realised it was 5 minutes walk from my house. So, I tried to get tickets and failed, but a friend of mine in work had bought two for his girlfriend and she decided she wasn't interested in going...so he offered the ticket to anyone in work who wanted one, and suffice to say, I got a free ticket to Faith No More (well, I helped him with his college work, but it was free for me)



    The band that night were exceptional, they were on fire actually, and it was one of the most intense and yet emotional concerts I'd ever been to. Quite frankly they were inspirational and could have converted monks....afterwards a few small faithful (who knew the venue) snuck into the back car park and waited for the band to emerge from the tiny stage door. One by one they came out and one by one I got a photograph. I'll never forget Mike Bordin that evening because he must have stood and talked to me, my friend and some other random bloke until 2am...most "fans" left after Mike Patton had left but we waited for Bordin and we chatted about Ozzy and FNM and everything inbetween - I even remember asking him if he was Jewish because of the FNM symbol lol

    Anyway, in short, a great band and some great personal memories. Glad I got to see them live and if it never happens again I'll be speaking about it for a long long time. I haven't stopped listening to them since either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,929 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    The olympia gig was one of the best gigs ever!! I actually had damaged hearing for a week.. festival equipment crammed into the olympia!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420


    Everything the OP has said and a bag of chips!!

    I remember the Olympia gig in 09 as I was only out of hosp 7 weeks after surgery on my back and decided it would be a good time to have a crowd surf(first time in yrs) and lasted two seconds. from looking at the ceiling to seeing several faces looking down at me in complete shock as I had landed on my shoulder from 7ft up. Painfull.....yes. Worth it...........hell yes.

    Highlights were Just a Man, Mikes salmon pink suit and his "nobody told me we were playing in MC Hammers sitting room" opener.

    My friends had met most of the band earlier in the day while they were strolling around Dublin. I was getting pissed................shame on me.

    Oddly enough the date of that gig was two yrs to the day that Peeping Tom were meant to play academy in Dublin in 07 but cancelled. Peeping tom album is a cracker too

    Should they ever play again I will be there with bells on.........one of the best gigs ever.


    LAters........

    frAg


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭sham69


    defo one of my fav bands.
    Listen to all the albums daily.
    Missed the olympia gig in 09, gutted.
    Saw them in Slane and then the follwing year in the point with L7, brilliant both times.
    Blew G'n'R off the stage in Slane.
    Listening to Mikes solo stuff and its pretty good, strange but pretty good.
    Mondo Cane is a class album, check it out..


  • Registered Users Posts: 403 ✭✭Humans eh!


    Seen FNM in Wembley Arena
    Awesome, awesome gig, great memories.
    This was 1989/90 BTW!

    One of my favourite bands in my miss but well spent youth!

    Old Rockers never die,
    they just deflate their air guitars!

    :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    I'm not sure exactly when I heard Faith No More first but it was around the release of King For a Day. I bought it on the strength of Digging The Grave. The key thing about that album and the band in general for me is the way they effortlessly shift genres. Not many other bands manage that or if they do it's usually just swapping out distorted guitars for acoustics or something. The members of the band are all accomplished musicians but the one who holds it all together is Mike Patton. The man's vocal range is amazing and I still don't know how he manages to be such a highly-regarded frontman while looking like a sleazy Mexican pimp.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 vanjaqwq


    My favourite band ever. They really had a touch of class. They could put their hand to absolutely anything and it just worked and sounded great. I've seen them 6 times. 3 times off Angel Dust and 3 times during the reunion. The band sounded amazing during the second coming shows. Pattons vocals were unreal. They were/are so under rated in the states and just totally miss understood by the general public. I really hope they at least keep playing the odd live show here or there. I'd really wet myself if they released a new album. I know Billy is up for it, I'll dream on anyway. For me no other band has ever come near them for sheer originality and not ever compromising there music. When they walked out and started playing "Reunited" at Brixton it was just so fu*king great, it was like they'd never been away and they still had that great sense of humour, completely taking the piss in one way but completely serious in there execution of the music, just doing what they wanted to do and fu*k everything else. I've seen a fair few reunion shows and only FNM and the Pixies have ever really pulled it off I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭RayCon


    Was only listening to the Real Thing the other day , saw them in the Top Hat, Dun Laoghaire 1990-ish ?? (they arrived mad late cos they were filming for Top Of The Pops earlier in the day and were delayed getting across to Ireland - I think that was the excuse anyway :confused:). Great gig, had to walk home along the railway tracks from Dun Laoghaire to Lansdowne cos they finished so late ... great days


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Out of curiosity is there a general consensus on where to start with the many side-projects that Faith No More members have been involved in?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    Malice wrote: »
    Out of curiosity is there a general consensus on where to start with the many side-projects that Faith No More members have been involved in?

    As Patton goes I would consider it an offence not to start with Mr Bungle since this was the band they "stole" him from and also the band he helped get a major label deal because of his work with FNM

    After that, you absolutely cannot miss Mondo Cane, a more recent project but utterly fantastic - and Fantomas, not least of all because of the inclusion of Dave Lombardo, needs to be heard

    After that I would say Tomahawk, Lovage, The Dillinger Escape Plan (of course just an EP as opposed to a side project) and Peeping Tom. Then I would listen to his voice work in Half Life. That should get you sorted.

    Also, check out Bordin on the US version of Who Wants to be a Millionaire...I won't spoil it...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 195 ✭✭missloulou


    I echo all the appreciation posted above.

    I have been a long time fan, managed to see them in the Point Depot in 1992, then Dalymount park in June 1993, nearly had to sell my first born for a ticket for the gig in the Olympia in 2009, but managed to get there, what a gig :) Each of these gigs were fantastic.

    Also went to Mike Patton's first Mondo Cane gig in Wroclaw Poland, there is no limit to that mans talent. Superb.

    I find it hard to admit that I think thats it for FNM this time round, just hope in another 10 years they come again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Nailz


    Malice wrote: »
    Out of curiosity is there a general consensus on where to start with the many side-projects that Faith No More members have been involved in?
    Basically all that Crüe pointed out, I especially love Mr. Bungle and Fantômas, if you topple them with as much love as I did you'll be able to delve further into the wackey woods of Avant Garde, and as a fan of John Zorn may I introduce you to the many collaborations with him spanning many records. He's recorded for John as a fellow musician and to fulfil Zorn's compositions under bands such as Moonchild (which also includes Mr. Bungle and Fantômas bassist Trevor Dunn, as well as an amazing drummer called Joey Baron), Naked City, Hemophiliac, Painkiller, Weirld Little Boy, Masada and John Zorn's "solo" albums (despite all the above practically being John Zorn solo albums. He also done many live performances with Zorn's improv band Cobra — as did other Bungle members Trey Spruance (who recorded KFAD with FNM, not touring), Trevor Dunn and Danny Heifetz — and Masada.

    And another interest fact is that John Zorn produced Mr. Bungle's very first studio album which is self titled, which got Patton and Zorn working on the long term. As I think you said before Malice, your were into Rap and Hip Hop, therefore I think you should check out General Patton & The Executioners, which is a very good Alternative Hip Hop side project. Also, another project to look out for is Crudo, which is between Patton and producer Dan the Automator, whom he worked with for Lovage, Peeping Tom among others — it hasn't even been released yet, but most people who cared aboutit still managed to hear it one way or the other! :)

    If you are interested at all in the Avant Garde stuff I would recommend going in and getting the Electronic Avant Garde album with Electronic Noice artist from Japan, Merzbow, who worked with Melt Banana as did Patton. Also on the AG front, his collaborations with Zu and Kaada is tops! Stuff with Björk is quite interesting too but he's only on four tracks about. Mike's solo stuff, especially Adult Themes For Voice and Mondo Cane are sweet pieces of music.

    But some of his film scores is great, Crank 2: High Voltage is my favourite, it's like action film Fantômas! Only hear A Perfect Place about three times, but it's intense from what I remember. He has a new one coming up soon and narrated a martial arts film with Mark Wahlberg in it, forget it's name, it was out in America at the beginning of this year. He's done the screams of the creatures in I Am Legend interestingly, and on the video game front he's done the infected voices on Left 4 Dead 1 & 2 and the Darkness. Probably missing a load but whatever! :)


    So, wanna hear the rest of the bands' side projects? :D I'll stop being an anorak, but in fairness, my sig is there for a reason. ;)


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,944 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    RayCon wrote: »
    Was only listening to the Real Thing the other day , saw them in the Top Hat, Dun Laoghaire 1990-ish ?? (they arrived mad late cos they were filming for Top Of The Pops earlier in the day and were delayed getting across to Ireland - I think that was the excuse anyway :confused:). Great gig, had to walk home along the railway tracks from Dun Laoghaire to Lansdowne cos they finished so late ... great days
    I was one of those who waited hours in the Top Hat for FNM.
    However, at least we knew they were held up as they were over there (and not doing what Axl is best at).

    I remember myself and my mates watching TOTP the next night and Mike Patton simulate a blow job with the mic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    I saw them in Dalymount Park in 93.Best live band I ever saw.I'd gone to Nirvana a few months before and thought that wouldn't be topped.For the occasion Nirvana was better.....for the show.....Faith No More were untouchable......I only went because they stepped in for Chili Peppers at the last minute.

    Highlight was the break in Midlife Crisis and Mike goes on a ramble about how good Jurassic Park is....then of course they smash straight back into the song....


  • Registered Users Posts: 763 ✭✭✭Nephilim Wolf


    Faith No More were/are great indeed. I still think that 'Angel Dust' is their finest hour though, and the other albums afterwards were not that great, but they had some killer songs here and there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭AnalogueKid


    Just saw them the once - at Slane supporting (and BLOWING AWAY) Guns N' Roses. Would've loved to have seen the Top Hat gig.

    Great to see the FNM love-fest!

    I've seen Patton in various guises since then - the man's a genius.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭AnalogueKid


    Faith No More were/are great indeed. I still think that 'Angel Dust' is their finest hour though, and the other albums afterwards were not that great, but they had some killer songs here and there.

    I always thought their albums got increasingly better and better. King for a Day and Album of the Year are my favourites. Each to their own


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    Highlight was the break in Midlife Crisis and Mike goes on a ramble about how good Jurassic Park is....then of course they smash straight back into the song....

    I would have LOVED to be there:eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Nailz


    Meant to post this last night with my big post but I thought it was packed enough. This is a class performance of Cuckoo For Caca in 1995 in London, but just look at Puffy, how can one hit the drums that hard but still manage to keep an awesome groove? Great drumming.



    "Take it from our drummer, Puff,
    Being good, it gets you stuff"


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,575 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Absolutely love this band. Only got into them after a mate gave me a loan of the Brixton gig on tape some time in '91. I was instantly converted and went out and bought The Real Thing and Introduce Yourself. I eagerly awaited their next album(Angel Dust) and couldn't wait to see them live at Slane. I was honestly left with my mouth on the floor after their set. I struggled to see how GN'R could top them and they couldn't. Awesome performance along with an amazing album in Angel Dust.

    Next stop was a solo show in November '92 at the Point with L7 in tow. On the day of the show they held a record signing in the Virgin Megastore. It was manic,every bit as mad as being at a gig. Eventually got through the throng and got to meet them and get my AD cassette inlay signed by them all. I remember being struck by how laid back and cool 'Big' Jim Martin was.:)

    The following year they filled in at Dalymount for the Red Hot Chilli Peppers at the Sunstroke festival. It was a scorcher(sunstroke indeed!) and FNM absolutely destroyed the place. Patton is one of rocks most mesmeric and underrated frontmen. He had everyone eating from the palm of his hand,even those who knew little or cared less for them. Amazing times.

    Personal favourites in terms of albums are The Real Thing,Angel Dust and King for a day...... Never got into AOTY despite trying to again a few years ago. I actually can't decide between AD and King for a Day,they're both amazing albums and a true representation of the kaleidoscope of music that is FNM.

    My favourite Patton project aside from FNM is Mr. Bungle. The first album in particular still gets a regular spin and is great for throwing on at a house party for the uninitiated. The looks on peoples faces when they hear 'The Girls of Porn' is priceless.:pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420


    lord lucan wrote: »
    My favourite Patton project aside from FNM is Mr. Bungle. The first album in particular still gets a regular spin and is great for throwing on at a house party for the uninitiated. The looks on peoples faces when they hear 'The Girls of Porn' is priceless.:pac:

    We got gushin' gonads, tingling tushes
    Hairy balls and hairy bushes
    S & M, whips and chains
    Pregnant ladies with menstrual pains
    We got hand jobs and nipple tweaks
    Finger bangs and slappin' cheeks
    We got rape, necro & both ways
    And lots of hung studs for all you gays
    We got incest & bestiality too
    We got Sade & the sweetest taboo
    We got girls who'll eat your pee and poo
    And guys who'd love to **** your shoe
    There's she-males, lezbos, & shaved beav
    And D-cup mamas with so much cleave
    Senior citizens who love to watch
    And sniff those skid marks from your crotch - yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!


    love it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭DeadSkin


    Excellent band - but lets not forget Big Jim Martin and of course Chuck Mosely ;).

    I first heard 'Epic' way way back in 1990, was blown away. Got a copy of 'The Real Thing' and loved it.
    While waiting for 'Angel Dust' to be released, I got my paws on 'Introduce Yourself' & 'We Care a Lot', liked both albums, but Patton just brings songs from those albums alive.

    Saw them at the Point back in '92 & yes lord lucan speaks the truth, outside Virgin was mayhem. I remember running down a side road and seeing the guys jumping into a car afterwards - kids jumping on cars trying to catch them!!

    Sunstroke was amazing, but the Olympia gig in 2009, best gig ever. I was like a teenager all giddy waiting for them to come on. It was like everyone there were best mates from years ago jumping round like lunatics. Fantastic vibe about the place.
    'As the Worm Turns' being the highlight that night.

    'Album of the Year' is possibly the least album I like, including the days of Mosely. Couple of decent tracks on it, but overall not a fan of it.

    You can't beat this band live, they all have their 'thing'. Ever see 'Video Croissant'? After the video to 'Falling to Pieces' there is a 90 second clip of each member playing another member in video, funny stuff.
    Would love to get a copy of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    One of my favourite bands and although the 2 albums after he left were excellent, the band weren't the same without Big Jim. The sound of his guitars, his presence on stage, the fact that the rest of the band hated him etc. all combined to make them much more brilliant with him in the band.

    I would have loved it if the reunion had included him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Nailz


    One of my favourite bands and although the 2 albums after he left were excellent, the band weren't the same without Big Jim. The sound of his guitars, his presence on stage, the fact that the rest of the band hated him etc. all combined to make them much more brilliant with him in the band.

    I would have loved it if the reunion had included him.
    I never ever noticed much of stage presence at all with Martin, he was generally just a 'stand here' guitarist, looked cool albeit. And you know that he probably only recorded about 2 songs on Angel Dust, right? He only contributed writing to one of them anyway, Billy played guitar on the rest. So he only really ever contributed to The Real Thing, Introduce Yourself and We Care A Lot. So no, Jim wasn't that important. In fact that leaves two of my favourite albums without contribution from Big Jim, Angel Dust and King For A Day Fool For A Lifetime — which Trey Spruance of Mr. Bungle recorded on, and was great, and toured the album with Dean Menta, now with Sparks, whom was 100 times more energetic than Martin.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,944 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I met Jim around 1993 on Dame St when I was heading to the Trinity Ball. Thre had been speculation (and denials) that FNM were playing and meeting him meant (to me) that they were playing. I was so disappointed that the denials were true.

    He had just been strolling down Dame St with his usual red glasses and a second pair of shades in front of them (i.e. two pairs at once).

    Still Therapy? who were my fav band then were playing and they were excellent!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,575 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    If i get a chance i'll try and upload a short piece i have on VHS of FNM. It was an MTV special following GN'R at Prague in '92 but included interviews and some footage of the support bands,namely FNM and Soundgarden.

    Edit: Someone saved me the bother.:)



    Ooooooohhhhhh,Vanessa Warwick.:o


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Nailz


    Saw that video a few time, they're gas craic in interviews, and Vanessa had interviewed them 2/3 times at least, miss her on MTV, that's when they were covering good **** like that.

    And Roddy's loving Queen there. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭teekayd25


    Like a few others I have a brother to thank for getting me into them, along with seeing them perform "Digging The Grave" on Top of the Pops a couple of years later. :eek:

    Wanted the single bad, lived miles from a record shop so asked a mate to get it while he was on a day trip to Cork . . . they didn't have it anywhere :mad: (apparently :D) but eventually managed to pick up the album.

    Don't listen to them anywhere near as much as I should these days but I would say they are definitely my favourite US band by some distance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,959 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Billy Gould has been an inspiration to me as a bassist - I'm really in to the murky areas where rock & funk cross over, and he's one of the pioneers there. He fooled me for a long while, too - much of what I thought was thumb-style (slapping) is actually plectrum e.g. Land Of Sunshine.

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Nailz


    bnt wrote: »
    Billy Gould has been an inspiration to me as a bassist - I'm really in to the murky areas where rock & funk cross over, and he's one of the pioneers there. He fooled me for a long while, too - much of what I thought was thumb-style (slapping) is actually plectrum e.g. Land Of Sunshine.

    He used either/or to be honest, there's plenty of times I've seen him use an aggressive finger plucking style to play Land Of Sunshine, it's primarily his sound which is a massive part of his playing method, his tone is so hard to pinpoint, I spent my fair share of cash to achieve something close to it, stuff like Peavey cabs, heads, drivers, alternative strings, etc. I love his work personally, he's the key man behind the bands sound, Mike and Puffy and Roddy all said there's no band without him, he's the main force behind most songs too, Mike said he's the go-to-guy to make things sound 'big'. My favourite member of the bad, despite being a big of a Pattonhead.


    Edit: Also, Happy belated Birthday to the very man, Billy Gould, an outstanding bass player, the person whom inspired me into bass playing! His birthday was yesterday, he's 48 now, wow!


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