VinylJunkie wrote: » Dat flinch doe
Davei141 wrote: » Flinching means nothing in a stare down. Just cause Conor jumped doesn't mean he was scared.
VinylJunkie wrote: » What do you think about this now? In my eyes this was the start of the end, he showed a mental weakness here.
sonofenoch wrote: » Nah that 1st punch Diaz landed middle 2nd round rocked McGregor in a way all the punches he landed didn't
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » For me it was this big left that was the beginning of the end
Martypants1 wrote: » Conor keeps mentioning when the history books are written but there'll be nothing about UFC in it and even less about Conor McGregor.
Gamebred wrote: » Faber Mendes and Kampmann and the rest of team alpha fail are a garbage team absolutely stupid suggestion,a camp of 5ft nothing midgets aint gonna help him do nothing.
Myrddin wrote: » Agreed, that for me was the end of the fight. Being gassed, does it compromise your ability to weather hits like that?
callaway92 wrote: » Yes, 3 garbage fighters. 2 who are top 5 in their divisions and Kampmann (retired now) a longtime top 10 welterweight. All class to watch too. Good man
Martypants1 wrote: » Wouldn't have flinched at FW. McGregor is used to fighting midgets but when someone his own size came along he was put away.
mdwexford wrote: » Lolol, best one yet. So angry over that money. Must hurt so bad.
ceecee14 wrote: » If they fought again I think Conor would either beat him on points or knock him out late on
Gamebred wrote: » Diaz is the better fighter on the evidence Ive seen,I think he'd be fitter and much harder fight at 155 Conor would have to change his hole game plan to a point scoring round stealing kinda game to beat him,its not impossible but not easy either, He was not overly troubled by much of Conors shots,he is not really one punch ko'able I remember Benson put him down with a right hook and he recovered from it,same with thompsons tko off him he took that shin to head and didnt even drop somehow he had to land a heap more strikes to get the tko.
VisibleGorilla wrote: » What could ever make you think this? Diaz out boxed Conor... without his left hand he has nothing. How do you think Conor would go the distance when he gassed in the 1st round here, gassed in the 2nd against Mendes and has never even fought a 5 round fight. Diaz has Conor beat in every aspect, striking, ground game, cardio, mentality.
TheNap wrote: » Conor is a striker . Has always been . He has done it since he started MMA and carried it into the UFC . I find it bizzare that John Kavanagh has took all the credit for his rise and not Owen Roddy. Why was JK giving his advice on what combos to throw . Why isnt Owen Roddy doing this ? I find it strange
John_D80 wrote: » Never thought I'd be extolling Conor's virtues to Gamebred of all people. Strange days!! Conor is far and away the better and more complete fighter of the two. I'm a huge fan of both guys and have loved watching Nate fight since he first appeared on TUF 5 but Conor was easily the main architect of his own demise. I definitely agree that if he was hunting points instead of a TKO he would have done better. It was Conor's total lack of gameplan that led to his defeat more than anything else. A calculated gameplan could have seen Conor decimate Diaz slowly over the course of 3 or four rounds and there is no doubt in my mind that if he had been patient he could have gotten the legit stoppage that he was hunting so furiously, too early on. McGregor believed too much in his own hype and just didn't give Diaz the respect that he deserved. Where I disagree with you though is that IMO Conor remains the better all-round fighter of the two. A rematch (at any weight) would be a very different fight and very different result.
TheNap wrote: » Conor is a striker . Has always been . He has done it since he started MMA and carried it into the UFC . I find it bizzare that John Kavanagh has took all the credit for his rise and not Owen Roddy. Why was JK giving his advice on what combos to throw . Why isnt Owen Roddy doing this ? Because John kavanagh is his coach and what's the point in having 3 or voices coming from your corner? And just to point out jk was a coach/trainer/instructor ever before Owen Roddy stepped into an mma gym. Roddy joined kavanaghs gym and learned his trade, therefore the only voice worth listening to in mcgregors corner is jk And that's nothing against Owen he is an excellent fighter himself and now a proven trainer
kingcharles82 wrote: » TheNap wrote: » Conor is a striker . Has always been . He has done it since he started MMA and carried it into the UFC . I find it bizzare that John Kavanagh has took all the credit for his rise and not Owen Roddy. Why was JK giving his advice on what combos to throw . Why isnt Owen Roddy doing this ? Because John kavanagh is his coach and what's the point in having 3 or voices coming from your corner? And just to point out jk was a coach/trainer/instructor ever before Owen Roddy stepped into an mma gym. Roddy joined kavanaghs gym and learned his trade, therefore the only voice worth listening to in mcgregors corner is jk And that's nothing against Owen he is an excellent fighter himself and now a proven trainer JKs backround is BJJ . Conor never uses it when he's fighting at all . So have a BJJ expert in his corner ? Why not have someone who is an expert in what he actually uses ?
Gamebred wrote: » You can say that a rematch is a different result but you have to remember Diaz hadnt a proper camp for his,so not only does Conor have to improve to beat that version of diaz its likely Diaz will be improved too with serious hard training done, Conor had no answer for his reach imo,and boxing in general and I do agree he loaded up and gassed but you cant discredit Nates win I think he was playing possom a bit too,
kingcharles82 wrote: » TheNap wrote: » Conor is a striker . Has always been . He has done it since he started MMA and carried it into the UFC . I find it bizzare that John Kavanagh has took all the credit for his rise and not Owen Roddy. Why was JK giving his advice on what combos to throw . Why isnt Owen Roddy doing this ? Because John kavanagh is his coach and what's the point in having 3 or voices coming from your corner? And just to point out jk was a coach/trainer/instructor ever before Owen Roddy stepped into an mma gym. Roddy joined kavanaghs gym and learned his trade, therefore the only voice worth listening to in mcgregors corner is jk And that's nothing against Owen he is an excellent fighter himself and now a proven trainer I may very well be wrong here but is JK not jiu-jitsu only? Surely if Roddy is there he should be shouting instructions regarding stand up and JK when it goes to the ground? However all this pales in significance to the fact that Ido Portal was in his corner. I mean what the hell?
John_D80 wrote: » So sick of you coming in here slating Conor.
TheNap wrote: » JKs backround is BJJ . Conor never uses it when he's fighting at all . So have a BJJ expert in his corner ? Why not have someone who is an expert in what he actually uses ?
