valknut wrote: » Enlighten me as to how travellers are a race please?
Gatling wrote: » It will be a Garda check point like a car tax check point
Maudi wrote: » Maybe so..but..false checkpoints have been erected before on this island before..
bumper234 wrote: » So if you saw a garda checkpoint tomorrow you wouldn't stop?
firemansam4 wrote: » I would imagine the Guard would only need ask for an individuals name, then he would ask Mr social welfare officer to check if that said individual is a social welfare claimant, if the answer to that is yes and the said individual is lets say in a van or in working clothes or maybe has a car full of tools then he would be able to determine that there is a suspicion of welfare fraud, and on that basis the guard can start to question the said individual further on this. Also there seems to be a lot of people stating that this will be treating everybody like they are guilty until proven innocent. If that's true then is it not already the case then with random breath checks - does that mean we are all treated like we are all drunk drivers until proven innocent?
Call me Al wrote: » I really can't see how this is a practical use of the Gardai's time. Firstly I can't see how its legal for them to be setting up a check point for the purposes of social welfare fraud detection.
Call me Al wrote: » I really can't see how this is a practical use of the Gardai's time. Firstly I can't see how its legal for them to be setting up a check point for the purposes of social welfare fraud detection. Secondly surely there are more pressing matters for them in society right now. I was in the local garda station a few weeks ago and I for chatting to 2 other people there. They gad both been victims of a crime in our little village the previous day... An old lady had been scammed at the ATM at lunch time, and the other had walked in on two men raiding his house build for tools, scrap etc. In the latter case he called the Gardai immediately to be told that there was 1 garda available between the whole of Clonee and Dunboyne to attend. It took the garda over an hour to get out to the man who had made the call. Are the resources needed suddenly going to magic themselves out of thin air, or will they come from an already diminished pool?
valknut wrote: » How is talking about a community who's whole lifestyle is funded by unemployment benefits in a thread about social welfare fraud a nasty agenda. When you see cuts to old people the under 25's and the way they are going to investigate social welfare crime and not even mentioning travellers. If that makes me come across as a bad person with a nasty agenda, well then I'm proud to come across that way.
Hitchens wrote: » Ah, the old "I'll ask you again" retort of the well rattled :pac:
jameshayes wrote: » One of the leaks is SW fraud. This is now to be addressed to the extent which JB has set a target of OVER 700 million - this money saved is then available to be either re-used or absorbed into debt.
Hitchens wrote: » how is the target figure determined? does Joanie just pull it from somewhere like the bankers did.............or what?
old hippy wrote: » You can always start a thread to bash Travellers with, tar them all with the same brush. We've never had that on boards before.
old hippy wrote: » Ah, the old nothing to say but I'll say it anyway contribution.
valknut wrote: » No, this thread is sufficient enough thanks. Welfare fraud is a perfect topic to discuss travellers when they are the biggest community in the country to abuse receive it. Target the biggest abusers first target the rest after, simple as.
bumper234 wrote: » I cannot WAIT to see the evidence you have of this.......you do have evidence don't you?
Fred Swanson wrote: » This post has been deleted.
denlaw wrote: » Right you are, i heard estates and presumed such, its bloody hard enough getting out of our estate half the time, anyway , what a bloody stupid idea, most people doing nixers are painting, bit of small building work, out of the way stuff, keeping their heads down, they're not going round with a big "signing and working here" on their t-shirts and most likely not working in industrial estates..
valknut wrote: » Here you go, http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/travellers-suffer-84-unemployment-28821652.html and, http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/state-paid-out-130m-in-funding-to-travellers-26619606.html.
Yawns wrote: » Hard to do that because when they catch someone they declare the savings made to be that equal to what the claimant would have been claiming until they died basically. So if they caught a young person, aged say 20, claiming whilst working tomorrow, they would say the made a savings of circa 300k euro
bumper234 wrote: » Hmmmmmm well done. Both links say traveler's collect dole money but nowhere does it say they abuse the system. Any chance of evidence of abuse seeing as that's what you accused them of?
SEPT 23 1989 wrote: » sorry what planet do you live on? do you think they buy new cars ,vans and caravans etc out of 200.00 a week:pac: Let Burton's gang set up their check points 100 yards up the road from every halting site in the country and see what the state will save
