eviltwin wrote: » I think sometimes that is the right decision, sometimes we have to accept the greater good of society is more important that what we would personally choose or want for ourselves.
lazygal wrote: » No, I'm saying that I don't understand why you want to deny all women in Ireland the right to access abortion. You said you have 'no idea' what women in Ireland with crisis pregnancies would do if they couldn't go 'next door'. Have you thought about that at all? What would your partner, or sister, or mother, or friend, or cousin, or colleague do if she had a crisis pregnancy and couldn't go next door? It's not about 'believing in' something, its about why you think no one should be able to avail of something because you don't think its right.
Aineoil wrote: » OMG, greater good of society? I don't want to be part of society if that what it's about.....Who decides "the greater good of society"? I want a desert island.....
Galwayguy35 wrote: » Lets be realistic, I'm giving a personal opinion, it won't deny anyone anything I think we all know that. All my immediate family, male and female are on the same page as me on this so it wouldn't be an issue. I simply said i wouldn't like to see liberal abortion coming in here, but if a majority voted for it obviously would accept the will of the people. Thats not being unreasonable now is it?
lazygal wrote: » Really? Everyone you know has exactly the same views on abortion as you? I'm very prochoice - but I know not everyone in my social circles is, some would be very opposed to the recent legislation. You said you'd vote against a more liberal regime - which, as has been pointed out, would impose your views if your vote meant abortion wasn't available to women. I still await your response to what women in Ireland with crisis pregnancies do when 'next door' isn't an option.
Aineoil wrote: » It must be nearly 20 years ago, and I had the same view point as you do now. Two ladies in their 40's at the time made a point to me you are in favour of abortion or not. It made me think. You cannot legislate for abortion - they said, you either want it or you don't. At the time I thought they were wrong.....but after being alive for 47 years I have had to re-think things. Nothing is simple. Just because abortion could be an option in Ireland, I don't think people would rush into it? It's like the divorce issue
Galwayguy35 wrote: » Thats how a vote works, you either vote for or against, and one side wins, its that simple. I told you before i don't have the answer, do you want me to say I think we should bring in liberal abortion?
eviltwin wrote: » so do you ever give a thought to those women who don't have the ability to the uk?
Aineoil wrote: » But we do have liberal abortion - it's called go to England
Galwayguy35 wrote: » Yes all my family have the same view as me, does it surprise you that my sisters are pro life?
Galwayguy35 wrote: » Yes i do,
eviltwin wrote: » Well then I have to ask, what are your thoughts? Cause if you would still vote against abortion because you personally don't like the idea knowing you are leaving those women in a terrible position then I have to wonder do you feel bad about that?
Galwayguy35 wrote: » Yes its a horrible situation to be in but I still would never vote for killing an unborn life.
lazygal wrote: » What about women in crisis pregnancies, what should they do?
eviltwin wrote: » In all cases ie rape, abnormalities etc
Galwayguy35 wrote: » They will do what they have always done, take the boat or decide to keep it.
Galwayguy35 wrote: » Your idea that the Brits will ban Irish women going over will never happen.
Galwayguy35 wrote: » They will do what they have always done, take the boat or decide to keep it. Your idea that the Brits will ban Irish women going over will never happen.
homemadecider wrote: » So you're not actually against abortion, seeing as how you're quite happy for women to "take the boat"... you're just against abortion in the Republic of Ireland???
lazygal wrote: » And those who can't travel, what do they do? What if they decide not to keep 'it' but can't travel, what options do they have?
Galwayguy35 wrote: » Another one putting words in my mouth, its nothing to do with me what they do, if there was a vote here on it i just wouldnt vote for it.