Replacing previous thread which has continuing page count issues.
Previous Thread
Previous Original Thread:
Threabanned posters:
brickstser69
slay55
mulbot
No, they've literally stated many times, remember the guy Boris Johnson, yea? He repeatedly said it
Unusual to see Putin under a fair bit of pressure. Europe and Ukraine issued him with an ultimatum yesterday and he then had to issue a live statement to the media in the middle of the night Moscow time. That doesn't sound like someone who is controlling the narrative or who 'holds all the cards'.
No, that's not the EU Leaders plan, that'd Putins plan, and he doesn't give a damn if he has to kill every last Russian to do it! From Timothy Snyder:-
https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxOpk0OoOotKDLhjWFIJsfXwk27hEf3-X_
And here's Alexander Dugin's
A lot seem to be older middle-aged who signed up for the vodka.
"the same guys who advised to fight to the last Ukrainian. "
Do you have any evidence that these "same guys" exist or is it part of your delusional outlook on the world?
Of course, but the main theme of my response there was that we shouldn’t be looking at the death of a million Russians as something to cheer about. I for example want Ukraine to succeed in their defence and for them to defeat the Russian Federation in this war, but that doesn’t mean that I want to dance on the mass graves of the Russian soldiers.
Violence may be nessisary to defend our freedoms from those who want to take them away, but that doesn’t mean that it has to cost us our humanity. Nor should it shouldn’t cost them 1 million dead (and the Ukrainians), when it’s the fate of only one man which might solve a lot of their problems…and ours.
No i was talking about the European "leaders", the guys who think they can defeat Russia, the same guys who advised to fight to the last Ukrainian.
You're wring in your presumption of what I meant, the comment another poster wrote was about "everyone knows Putin wants to build a bridge" it's not a literal bridge, but you know that, I'm asking where "everyone knows" about this information
As reported on the news this morning, he's willing to enter talks to discuss the underlying causes of the conflict, as he sees them. In other words to discuss the capitulation of Ukraine. **** that.
It would be extremely naive to assume that the majority of those 1m Russsian war casualties were just innocents duped by Putin. At least 3/4 of those sent to the front lines were violent criminals from prisons all over the Federation - I wouldn't be too quick to shed a tear for those guys.
Putin has said he's willing to enter talks with Ukraine, so that's a positive
Only if he's willing to offer meaningful compromises, which there's no sign of as yet. If his true game is to keep pushing ahead on the battlefield as long as he is making even marginal gains, the talks serve no worthwhile purpose for anybody else….
You're being deliberately obtuse.
A 'landbridge' and a bridge built to connect two pieces of land are two different things.
But, you knew that anyway.
You have to laugh, "the EU warmongers" I think you mean the russian warmongers.
Ukraine as far as I can see want a ceasefire to stop being attacked in an illegal invasion by putin's terrorists on their quest to build a bigger russian empire. I don't see any sign that putin's terrorists are in control in Ukraine and as well as killing thousands of Ukrainians and making millions of them homeless the losses in putin's terrorist forces are very significant:
If putin were not such a deranged psychopath with authoritarian rule over his empire a ceasefire and withdrawal back to internationally agreed borders would have already happened.
I’m thinking, even with NATO membership you will need a hardened border to discourage or at least slow down an attempted attack with heavy armor or tanks (assuming the Russians have enough working examples to spare). Much better in terms of tactics if a NATO counter-attack can happen before the Russians manage to take major towns or cities. The heavy boundries would help with that.
I know what it is and it's significance but where is the information that Putin wants to build a bridge?
Google "Suwałki Gap" and you'll have your answer.
They are controlling the situation for the most part in Ukraine, the Western, or more accurately, the EU warmongers are in panic mode, do you think if Ukraine were beating Russia that they'd be calling for a ceasefire?
"they're in control"
What do you mean by this statement?
putin could not even get his terrorists to stop attacking Ukraine for his self declared three day victory day parade ceasefire.
Meanwhile Ukraine continues its own efforts to destroy putin's terrorist war industry.
The thing is though, they aren't in a position to demand Russia do anything, Russia isn't going to be dictated to, especially because they're in control, but Putin has said he's willing to enter talks with Ukraine, so that's a positive
Putin doesn’t want peace, proof # 999
When you say its no secret he wants a land bridge, where do you find this information?
NATO is here today, but there are no guarantee it's there tomorrow. Countries have to operate on that principle.
Lithuania is a number one target for Putin as it's no secret he wants a land-bridge to Kalingrad from Belarus (which leaks have shown Russia plans to absorb in the next 10 years)
Putin would only need a 65 kilometre strip (the Suwalki gap) to cut off the Baltics from the rest of Europe.
Putin knows his country is falling apart but he will stubbornly try to appear strong until the last shack in Russia falls down.
As a NATO member surprised they feel the need to go to those lengths.
He's agreed to a ceasefire talk, but in Dimloma talk it's not a ceasefire talk ,but it's ceasefire talks,
Well if you take the word of Russian's over European and US intelligence…. there's not much I can say. Just who is saying there's North Korean troops fighting in Ukraine, apart from the OP?
We were told months ago there was no North Korean troops fighting in Kursk🤷♂️
I think Putin was desperately hoping Xi would somehow save him after their meeting. That hasn't happened.
Oil prices and the global economy are about to take a tumble due to the orange moron in chief. Plus with some US weapons starting to appear since Trump has swung a little more pro Ukraine recently. Putin is probably feeling a lot of pressure to at least seem like he's open to something.
European leaders have come out (plus the US I believe) and said they'll double down on military aid if no ceasefire agreed to by the 12th.
Now Putin says talks (note not a ceasefire) can happen. It's a delay tactic. He's absolutely desperate not to have a stop in the fighting. If ever there was a demonstration that Putin has no interest in actual peace this is it.
I don't believe there's any North Korean's actually fighting on Ukrainian soil? Been fighting in Russia (Kursk), but not actually in Ukraine.
