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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,799 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,197 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    A few Stv 90's would be better than tanks for our environment too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭engineerws


    Probably been discussed here already but interesting to see how much Ukraine media was reliant on usaid.

    I wonder will the narrative start to shift if not funded by usaid. Especially interesting as so many people have been accused of being Putin's puppets when in fact the entire Ukraine media seems to have been Biden's puppets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    I’ve been curious why each of these three amigos of Russia been showing so much “concern” in this and parallel thread about USAID and can’t come up with a theory about their identical fascination with the story



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,895 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Looks like biggest cauldron of the conflict is on it's way soon west of Kurakhove, Andriivka is about to fall in the next day or two. Hopefully they are allowed to retreat early this time and save themselves. Two rivers in the way also just like the Velyka Novosilka cauldron make even worse.

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    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,799 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Interesting thread, someone has documented orc losses on one of the supply roads to Pokrovsk. Dozens of wrecked Lada's, golf carts, and buggies litter the sides of the roads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭protexblue


    Quote:

    "From a Russian Supplyroad supposedly near Pokrovsk"

    ISW anyone?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭protexblue


    I think its safe to say at this remove "the sanctions don't work"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,025 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Dictatorial scum like Putin, all have the same MO.

    https://pressway.org.uk/news/297923-hungarian_pm_viktor_orban_cecretly_lives_in_a_ee45_million_castle

    I hope Assad's alright, gone awfully quiet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,197 ✭✭✭saabsaab




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭protexblue


    At this stage I think its safe to say they cut as much as they are willing to. Sanctions hurt the sanctioner as well.

    You think industrial Germany is thriving on a diet of horrendously expensive LPG?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,799 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Ukraine under scale assault tonight. Most drones appear to be shot down but another way incoming as well as ballistic missiles and Kalibr

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Indeed. For all the Kremlin bot talk of sanctions not hurting, they do seem to be oh so terribly eager to remind us of this, repeatedly and at length since they were introduced. Like the jilted lover swearing to all that will listen they never really cared. And who would buy that? Never mind that the Kremlin stipulates that removing sanctions, that they don't care about, that do nothing, are headlining any negotiations said Kremlin will enter into.

    Meanwhile; how's the Rouble doing? How's that 21% interest rate working out? How's the "official" 9+% inflation rate going? All good, nothing to see here. Sure the price of spuds an' all that like… Be grand.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,064 ✭✭✭macraignil


    putin's terrorist state has an inflation rate officially acknowledged by them to have reached almost 10% while their base interest rate have reached 21% in an effort to slow that inflation in consumer prices which are likely to actually be higher than the official figures that even putin accepts are a problem. Any economic stress on the rest of the world economy is paid for many times over by the greater chance of peace in Europe when putin's ability to wage a genocidal war of conquest are diminished. The fact putin fan boys continue to call for an end to sanctions is a clear sign that they are working as their blood stained rubles pay for less and less.

    https://kyivindependent.com/putin-acknowledges-inflation-as-key-challenge-for-russia/



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Ah. I do appreciate the classics. We haven't had the nazi stuff for a while.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    At this stage I think its safe to say they cut as much as they are willing to.

    What does that even mean? They have cut them as much as they are willing to. Which is to say not at all. In an effort to not prop up and ultimately end up with a belligerent authoritarian shithole closer to their border.

    But thanks for confirming what we all know. That Russia is essentially a big aggressive petrol pump being run by a doddery unelected narcissistic sociopath. A country that ceases to be useful on the world stage at all once their gas pipes are replaced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Sanctions aren't a "war on/war off" switch. They are punitive, work to relative degrees and are designed to hurt Russia and make life more difficult for them. For example, the frozen hundreds of billions has especially hurt and the interest payments are providing considerable funding for Ukraine and it's defense expenses.

    Sanctions do have a cost - naturally. However someone is invading your continent, you can't be doing business as normal.

    Germany and Europe would have been economically better off to keep getting cheap energy from Russia, but obviously that was a no-go. Painful in the short term, but had to be done, Europe can't be energy reliant on a dictator who is intent on invading/attacking Europe.

    It's like the Baltics who have been on Russia's grid since the 60's, it's been a long process but they've finally cut. It wasn't cheap but in the medium and long run it means they aren't reliant on the Hitler next door who has expressed desires to invade them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Also let me find that bingo card, just in case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    It's not exactly great what Trump says here. I know he says may or may not but it's wasn't 100% it won't be.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Do the people who in all honesty think that sanctions don't work actually understand how economics work?? Or are they just talking at a level so high and detached from reality that they may as well be orbiting the moon? Now if they have an alternative agenda in trying to make such claims, fine. But to actually believe that sanctions don't work…

    If anything the sanction noose should be tightened even more now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭Glenomra




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    If that’s the case then how do you explain this war dragging into the 4th year of Putin’s Three Day War?

    I am curious as to the mental gymnastics involved in trying to explain so much winning

    On todays episode of Trump says dumb ****, he sure as hell has a knack of staying at top of every news headline every day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 448 ✭✭The Ging and I


    On todays episode of Trump says dumb ****, he sure as hell has a knack of staying at top of every news headline every day

    I think thats his working plan, to head up all news in a lot of countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭protexblue


    That's a neat summation of a The Guardian Opinion piece I read about a year and a half ago: band of European brothers foresquare against the invading human wave.

    Whereas it appears that Russia is doing a pretty effective job at doing what an effective military ought to be doing: grinding down their opponents ability to present a resistance (whatever about folks mocking their not progressing on the (militarily insignificant) task of taking large swathes of land

    Hence my wondering about the efficacy of sanctions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭protexblue


    The thing about a petrol pump (aggressive ot otherwise) is that there is a world market for their product.

    Not to speak of being self sufficient in other raw materials such as to be difficult to affect with sanctions

    For my part, I'm not all that convinced by the 'the Russians are coming' narrative - a laughable notion and suspect that once they've achieved aims and the war is done, Europe will be quite happy to get the gas flowing again.

    Its one thing to be a lapdog to failed US corporate imperialism. Quite another to let your industry go down the toilet on the back of impractical and horrendously expensive energy from the US.

    Let's face it: pragmatism and winning elections will trump any interest in the wellbeing of a rump state that most all of us couldn't have pinned on a map before this conflict started.

    Its the economy, stupid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭ilkhanid




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,297 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Even aside from the negative economic effects, back in 2022 we were saying sanctions were needed so that Russians know there is a war.

    Shutting down Starbucks or McDonalds in Russia won't exactly bring hardship to anyone, neither will being banned from Olympics or World Cups.

    But it does make people aware that something's going on, not just a simple run-of-the-mill defensive Special Military Operation as Putin would have liked to present it. They will see the economy struggling and will know it is related to Putin's war. Sanctions are worth it for that alone.



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