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Fly me to the Moon - your 3rd travel Megathread - read OP

  • 01-06-2021 09:45PM
    #1
    Beasty
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    Anyone who does decide to take a trip to the Moon should understand they will be subject to Mandatory Hotel Quarantine on return. Also make sure your vaccine passport is up to date

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  • #2
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Jupiter or Mars..anyone?


  • #3
    Valhallapt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    speckle wrote: »
    Jupiter or Mars..anyone?

    But but the Martian variant....

    Trips to Mars were never banned, you can travel to Mars for essential reasons, no one is going to turn you around at the spaceport.

    You won’t get the 2K fine if your trip is for essential reasons, so the fine won’t prevent you going to Mars.


  • #4
    Ray Donovan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Ray Donovan


    So no Statutory Instrument as of yet to extend the €2,000 fine. Are we in the clear?


  • #5
    JojoLoca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭JojoLoca


    Ray Donovan wrote: »
    So no Statutory Instrument as of yet to extend the €2,000 fine. Are we in the clear?

    Nothing posted yet, so let’s hope


  • #6
    Feria40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Feria40


    JojoLoca wrote: »
    Nothing posted yet, so let’s hope

    Think it may be midnight tonight it expires..? Could yet be a last second job from Donnelly


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  • #7
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    I know people want it gone, I do too, but I just can't see them NOT extending it to the 19th July. Would be delighted to be wrong - not that I'll be travelling until we see just how easy it'll be once people start flying again - immigration delays etc.


  • #8
    Rosereynolds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 ✭Rosereynolds


    Ray Donovan wrote: »
    So no Statutory Instrument as of yet to extend the €2,000 fine. Are we in the clear?

    fingers and toes crossed


  • #9
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Ray Donovan wrote: »
    So no Statutory Instrument as of yet to extend the €2,000 fine. Are we in the clear?

    Don't get your hopes up, it's absolutely going to be extended until July, it'll likely expire at 23:59 on the 18th


  • #10
    Valhallapt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Don't get your hopes up, it's absolutely going to be extended until July, it'll likely expire at 23:59 on the 18th

    Do they have to renew before it expires, or can it be expired a few days then extended?


  • #11
    M_Murphy57
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    Do they have to renew before it expires, or can it be expired a few days then extended?

    Not sure, does it depend on the extension of his other super powers?


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  • #12
    faceman
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    Ray Donovan wrote: »
    So no Statutory Instrument as of yet to extend the €2,000 fine. Are we in the clear?

    The last time it was extended they did it on the expiry day so don’t get excited until this evening


  • #13
    Marcusm
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    faceman wrote: »
    The last time it was extended they did it on the expiry day so don’t get excited until this evening

    The prior SI was on the day before (9 May) although not effectively published until 10/5. We will have to wait until then end of today at least and possibly tomorrow before there is any sort of clarity.


  • #14
    naufragos123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭naufragos123


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Don't get your hopes up, it's absolutely going to be extended until July, it'll likely expire at 23:59 on the 18th

    How do you know that? Do you know something the rest of us don't?


  • #15
    northcider85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 ✭northcider85


    It's due for debate in the Dáil this evening at 6.30pm. As the Dáil schedule mentions "to conclude within 150 mins". Might be a late one so.
    I fully expect it to pass through unfortunately. Unless a group of senators / TD's band together to propose a specific amendment to the Garda powers about fines


  • #16
    Klonker
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Don't get your hopes up, it's absolutely going to be extended until July, it'll likely expire at 23:59 on the 18th

    I wouldn't be so sure. Its more than likely going to be extended but it's not a foregone conclusion.

    If it's extended to 18th July, then we'll be going from no non essential travel with a 2k fine in place for such travel and PCR tests before arrival, a do not travel advice, along with 14 day home quarentine or 5 day if get a follow up negative PCR test. To switch from this on the 18th July to the 19th July where there will be no non essential warning or fine in place, no advisory not to travel, no quarentine as long as have vaccine or PCR. The airports can't just switch on like that.

    It would make sense to gradually ease, remove fine now but still a no non essential travel and do not travel advice. Maybe drop quarentine for vaccinated people in a few weeks etc., so airports can get up to speed. Now just because it makes sense doesn't mean they'll do it but I wouldn't take it as definite it'll be extended. I wouldn't be surprised if the guards look for the fine to be removed too, it's taking up a lot of their resources for a law/fine that they are finding hard to enforce going by the article in the Independent.ie the other day, resources that they'd probably love to use in the city centre instead, especially after last weekend and the crowds gathering.

    Maybe I'm just trying to believe what I want to happen,flights booked mid June and going either way :D


  • #17
    Tazz T
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    But but the Martian variant....

    Trips to Mars were never banned, you can travel to Mars for essential reasons, no one is going to turn you around at the spaceport.

    You won’t get the 2K fine if your trip is for essential reasons, so the fine won’t prevent you going to Mars.


    I note the Independent is now calling one of the the Indian variants, the 'Delta' variant. That now officially makes it a 'scariant'. I'd expect more of these names, becoming increasingly more terrifying as numbers drop. DublinLive will have a field day: 'Reopening under threat at Delta death variant doubles in a week. Dublin doomed.'


  • #18
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tazz T wrote: »
    I note the Independent is now calling one of the the Indian variants, the 'Delta' variant. That now officially makes it a 'scariant'. I'd expect more of these names, becoming increasingly more terrifying as numbers drop. DublinLive will have a field day: 'Reopening under threat at Delta death variant doubles in a week. Dublin doomed.'

    I have no idea what this post means but variants are now being named after the letters of the Greek alphabet.


  • #19
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Tazz T wrote: »
    I note the Independent is now calling one of the the Indian variants, the 'Delta' variant. That now officially makes it a 'scariant'. I'd expect more of these names, becoming increasingly more terrifying as numbers drop. DublinLive will have a field day: 'Reopening under threat at Delta death variant doubles in a week. Dublin doomed.'


    Imagine DublinLive foaming at the mouth once we get to the Omega variant. They'll combust :pac:


  • #20
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Feria40 wrote: »
    Think it may be midnight tonight it expires..? Could yet be a last second job from Donnelly

    Last time it didn't show up online until the afternoon but he had signed it that morning.


  • #21
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    naufragos123 wrote: »
    How do you know that? Do you know something the rest of us don't?

    Why do people get so uptight about this opinion? The user, has expressed an opinion. An opinion based on the statements made by those in power.

    The government knows full well that if they drop the fine, the gates are open.


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  • #22
    [Deleted User]
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    Klonker wrote: »
    I wouldn't be so sure. Its more than likely going to be extended but it's not a foregone conclusion.

    If it's extended to 18th July, then we'll be going from no non essential travel with a 2k fine in place for such travel and PCR tests before arrival, a do not travel advice, along with 14 day home quarentine or 5 day if get a follow up negative PCR test. To switch from this on the 18th July to the 19th July where there will be no non essential warning or fine in place, no advisory not to travel, no quarentine as long as have vaccine or PCR. The airports can't just switch on like that.

    It would make sense to gradually ease, remove fine now but still a no non essential travel and do not travel advice. Maybe drop quarentine for vaccinated people in a few weeks etc., so airports can get up to speed. Now just because it makes sense doesn't mean they'll do it but I wouldn't take it as definite it'll be extended. I wouldn't be surprised if the guards look for the fine to be removed too, it's taking up a lot of their resources for a law/fine that they are finding hard to enforce going by the article in the Independent.ie the other day, resources that they'd probably love to use in the city centre instead, especially after last weekend and the crowds gathering.

    Maybe I'm just trying to believe what I want to happen,flights booked mid June and going either way :D

    There's logic in this approach but the Gardai won't ask for anything. Drew will just say it's fine, no issues at all and continue as is.

    The airport should be getting ready as it is, they have a date for full operations to resume and the airport has gotten busier since the local restrictions ended anyway.

    It would be great for me if they do drop the quarantine for vaccinated people and I'm hoping that does happen but as that's for incoming flights, I don't see it being linked to the fine.


  • #23
    stephenjmcd
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    naufragos123 wrote: »
    How do you know that? Do you know something the rest of us don't?

    Pretty self explanatory really, non essential travel is penciled in from 19th July, therefore the barriers that impede non essential travel would likely stay in place until then. Wouldn't make sense to me to say 19th July then drop the barriers that impede it in June


  • #24
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just had to wind up the refund arrangements for a much looked-forward to voyage from Alaska to Japan via Aleutian Islands and Russian Far East. The only way I'm comforting myself is by realising I'll have plenty more money back in my pocket. But nowhere to spend it, outside of wasting it on some ludicrously overpriced place in Ireland.


  • #25
    Tazz T
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Pretty self explanatory really, non essential travel is penciled in from 19th July, therefore the barriers that impede non essential travel would likely stay in place until then.

    But it expires at midnight, so theoretically you could hop on the Ryanair 6.15 to Barcelona in the morning while Donnelly is still in his scratcher and not be subject to a fine.


  • #26
    DSN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭DSN


    Is anyone actually getting fined these days curious to know this & have many (any) actually paid it?


  • #27
    LeeroyJ.
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    Loads of people already got vaccinated and from what I've gathered the HSE will be issuing the Green Cert for travel. Has anyone found out how people that already received the vaccine will be able to obtain the Cert?


  • #28
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Just had to wind up the refund arrangements for a much looked-forward to voyage from Alaska to Japan via Aleutian Islands and Russian Far East. The only way I'm comforting myself is by realising I'll have plenty more money back in my pocket. But nowhere to spend it, outside of wasting it on some ludicrously overpriced place in Ireland.

    Cool journey itinary... was it to be by independantly by boat/plane or cruise? Ive friends from Alaska...links via studying to Japan and have always wanted to visit the wilds of Russia even before watching the two on motorbikes...the long way around. Hard luck... try maybe to spend the time/money planning an even more spectacular trip for next time.


  • #29
    Fils
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Fils


    LeeroyJ. wrote: »
    Loads of people already got vaccinated and from what I've gathered the HSE will be issuing the Green Cert for travel. Has anyone found out how people that already received the vaccine will be able to obtain the Cert?

    They are setting up a department to deal with this, ngct.


  • #30
    kickmark19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭kickmark19


    I am booked to fly Mexico -> Lisbon -> Dublin on July 18th. Is there any benefit in me pushing the flight back a day and arriving on July 19th instead? I have no issue doing at home quarantine for 5 days + test, just curious about my options.


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  • #31
    [Deleted User]
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    Tazz T wrote: »
    But it expires at midnight, so theoretically you could hop on the Ryanair 6.15 to Barcelona in the morning while Donnelly is still in his scratcher and not be subject to a fine.

    It will be restored before midnight unless he messes up. He can extend by a week now


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