[Deleted User] wrote: » Yes it is women who are affected, I am on another uk site mumsnet and there is major concern from a lot of the women on there. Not hysteria but links to media etc that show that these clots appear in women of my age group so it would mean it would be a lot more likely for me than a man or older woman. I completely get that I will be near the end of the queue if I don't take it, I am not an antivaxer, I have been actively seeking it out for my husband and father, I get the flu vaccine every year, but this is really concerning me. I also fear I will get it Friday and our government will then do a u-turn and only use it in the older age groups.
JTMan wrote: » Interesting that in the US the one shot J&J jab has become the preferred shot for the homeless. Attempts to give Moderna or Pfizer to the homeless resulted in those giving the vaccines unable to find the person for the second dose over 40% of the time so J&J is now the preferred shot. Maybe the Irish government could learn from this, and whenever they are planning to do street vaccines (I guess at a later stage?) then maybe it should be the J&J jab that is given.
Deleted User wrote: » I just think it's a potentially very dangerous road to go down. Our ancient liberties contingent on displaying an app to do everyday activities and to take part in society. There is also the potential for it to morph into a social credit system. I find what's going on in Israel to be horrifying. A two-tiered society. Seats in restaurants for the vaccinated only, the unvaccinated cut off from society. Once the government can coerce people into taking a medical treatment the people cease to be free. Once there is sufficient herd immunity in the population then normal life should resume. No coercion, no threats of exclusion from activities and public places. I would have no problem with vaccination being required for international travel. That's the case already for yellow fever, for example.
Chris_5339762 wrote: » Update: Talking to a family friend who uses the same GP practice, he is 77 and hasn't had his first dose yet, he's also been told two weeks before there is any delivery to the practice at all. So my 73 and 74 year old parents, at a wild guess, will now be at the end of April, despite all the promises about "first dose before mid April". This is a big GPs practice by the way, nothing out of the ordinary.
charlie14 wrote: » I do not see how it infringing on anyone`s civil liberties to avail of a vaccine that in the last year has killed 2.85 million worldwide, when it doesn`t to do the same for something like yellow fever that kills on average 30 thousand a year. Far as I`m concerned your civil liberties do not extend in you putting the rest of society at risk. Especially when the civil liberties of the rest of society have been put on hold to achieve herd immunity by means of vaccination. If someone does not wish to avail of a vaccine for whatever reason, then I do not see why they should expect to partake of the liberties made possible by the vast majority that have, without, at the very least, having an up to date negative test result.
maestroamado wrote: » I assume the HSE are in charge of people requesting vaccine but i may be wrong. How can people jump queue if this is managed properly.
Marhay70 wrote: » No matter who is requesting it, it's the person who takes up the request who is dishonest.
maestroamado wrote: » I read an article today where Paul Reid said that people jumping the queue was "regrettable" was the word he used. Who is responsible for this, is it him or the minister...
lbj666 wrote: » With civil liberties I am more concerned about how to get the surveillance license off all the curtain twitchers once this is over.
timsey tiger wrote: » I find it hard to believe that nobody is calling for disiplinary action. I'd imagine a step back of 3 or 4 increments would be appropriate or maybe demotions. For the queue jumpers that is, the HSE should be allowed assume that its employees are honourable.
Water John wrote: » Everyone is annoyed with queue jumpers, for two reasons. Firstly, the obvious one and the second is it giving oxygen to the anti brigade. However the total number seems 200 out of 1M vaccines, so propotionality in the response.
maestroamado wrote: » Where did you get the figure of 200, it was going on everywhere in the country.
Dickie10 wrote: » how many were vaccineated today?
firemansam4 wrote: » Again I would like to know the source of these links causing such concern? It is a worry that such sites are causing people to fear taking the vaccine. The chances of you being in a motor collision would be far higher than the events being reported, do you still have the same fear stepping into a car or onto a bus or something? Yet the chances of catching covid and suffering long term health problems or even death from it are much more likely and it would be a shame if many women decide to take there chances with covid over the risk of very rare blood clotting risks that are being reported.
JPup wrote: » To be fair. It’s not like it’s a few random websites and forums spreading fear here. The blood clot issue does seem to affect women of child bearing age almost exclusively and several European countries including Germany and France are advising women in that age category not to take it. I think in this case since the lady posting here has asthma and is therefore high risk, it makes sense to go ahead with it even if it is the AstraZeneca vaccine being offered. But I would recommend discussing your concerns on the day with the doctor on duty.
Micky 32 wrote: » I personally know a couple who jumped the Q due to vaccines “left over”.
maestroamado wrote: » I personally know quite a few HSE admin staff who have had vaccine....
ACitizenErased wrote: » The complaining about workers essential to the operation of our health service getting the vaccine before anyone else is beyond old at this stage
theguzman wrote: » The only thing HSE admin workers are good at is draining funds out of the healthcare system, the vast majority of them should be fired.
Van.Bosch wrote: » Honest question - do you think a HSE worker who 100% works from home should get the vaccine (cohort 2) ahead of someone in cohort 4 for example?
Gael23 wrote: » What’s the difference between groups 4 and 5 on the priority life?
eagle eye wrote: » It's a big concern for women. It'd make sense to offer them the Pfizer vaccine just for peace of mind.
