irishgeo wrote: » Honestly when people get it into their heads we can't be speed it because we don't have any vaccines. people bitching about we need to buy outside the EU deal. We need 8 million doses. That's a small city is some countries like Germany. How much of a premium would we have to pay. There is no guarantee we would get our doses any quicker. If we did that people would still bitching because we would be wasting money or why aren't we in the EU who are getting there first. The 2nd doses need to be done sometime. Sure let's a variant in against a half vaccinated population. So it can learn to mutate against non fully vaccinated immune system. Then it's back to square 1.
Knex* wrote: » So they're purely going on number of jabs in arms, not individuals with first or second dose? Seems a bit weird to have the vaccine as the primary entity, and not the human. Now I'm confused If so, apologies SM. I'm off the mark it seems!
Deleted User wrote: » Stolen from another thread but looks like the UK have sourced 10m AZ doses from India.https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/10-million-doses-from-india-wont-impact-poor-nations-vaccine-access-says-uk-221497#.YEOJe5OWBOQ.twitter Not sure if they're pulling a bit of a stroke or not, but certainly a bit underhand considering Indian production was meant to be low or middle income countries. They'll do whatever they can to meet vaccine targets it seems.
cameramonkey wrote: » How come Micky Martin has more recent numbers for vaccinations than have been announced by the HSE? Is it a leak designed to give Mickeys poor poll ratings a boost. This information should not be used for political gain for one party it should be published by the relevant authorities. i suppose he had to get the leak out before Leo.
hynesie08 wrote: » You know we're actually getting the vaccine distribution right when this is what people have to complain about......
Tippbhoy1 wrote: » Israel are leading the whole world. Is this the mentality we are dealing with, if Ireland doesn’t have the most vaccines of anywhere, we are doing ****. Israel is a complete outlier, they are practically a military state. They have deep pockets and strong American support. They sold the data of all their citizens to support this. We couldn’t do that even if we wanted to.
ceegee wrote: » If the Taoiseach didn't have more recent numbers than the published figures it would be gross incompetence. There's a 2 day delay on the published figures, of course the government would be getting updated on the current totals
cameramonkey wrote: » So if they have the data why do they take two days to release it? Why not publish what they have in the same way they do with hospital numbers and positive test numbers?
Melanchthon wrote: » I am sick of these type of dismissive responses , Ireland does lead the world , unfortunately it leads the world in longest and most severe lockdowns. Literally anywhere else in the world and me and many many others would be able to work at the minute. Ireland is a outlier for the bad stuff why shouldn't we be demanding that we are an outlier on the good as well.
Micky 32 wrote: » Fergal Bowers : “” It may not feel like it but we are in a very different place now, compared to a year ago. At that time, much less was understood about coronavirus and in many ways we were heading into the dark and the unknown. We are now in early spring and the season of light and renewal. We are much better armed, with a vast amount of medical and scientific knowledge and the new weapon of vaccination. It should inject us all with a new sense of hope and that maybe, an end is in sight.“”
chrisbonnie wrote: » with the Sputnik V getting a rolling review from the EMA does anyone actually believe the EMA will authorise it for use within the block? Im still sceptical on the politics behind it, not so much the vaccine, but id be shocked if the EU agreed to line the pockets of Putin, just so they could "save face"
eoinbn wrote: » That is economic thinking that has gotten the EU into this bind. The cost premium would be insignificant in the greater scheme. We are paying about €4 for the two doses of AZ but we are paying GP's €60 to administer the doses. The vaccines are basically close enough to free at the current price. Even the more expensive vaccine aren't expensive when compared to the cost of lockdowns. Ireland is burning through €1.5bn a month. If the EU made an investment of a fraction of that size into production for each of the chosen vaccines then we would likely be exporting vaccines by the summer and not begging developing countries to supply us with vaccines. We are a global laughing stock.
IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: » https://www.google.ie/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN2AT1J0
brickster69 wrote: » With all these other big EU countries approving AZ for use in older people does anyone think it might be time to bite the bullet and do likewise ?
User142 wrote: » I wonder will we reach out now to the Brits and look for their excess doses now. I hope so. Free travel within the CTA this Summer would be lovely.
Dickie10 wrote: » when would people be happy that things open? would early june be ok for most?
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