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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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is_that_so

Widescreen wrote: »

You see, we accept slack performance in this country, that is why less than a hundred thousand people have had a vaccine in two months!
And supply HAS been sitting around at times, especially recently when the issue between getting either Astra or Pfizer came up.

Aah shur, we'll get the vaccines done soon enough anyway!

I understand it's a matter of deep regret in government that you weren't called on to run it!

Polar101

Widescreen wrote: »

It's fantastic to see vaccines being administered, it's just so disappointing that it has been so slow in comparison to UK. Can't believe the lack of urgency shown by the people we have to look up to here.

I'm just surprised how well people buy in to the UK propaganda - it doesn't particularly matter what they're doing with their vaccinations. We'll get ours done at our speed, which will be pretty fast once there's enough vaccines available.

Anyone want to bet that most of Europe will be done (roughly) at the same time?

ceegee

Widescreen wrote: »

You see, we accept slack performance in this country, that is why less than a hundred thousand people have had a vaccine in two months!
And supply HAS been sitting around at times, especially recently when the issue between getting either Astra or Pfizer came up.

Aah shur, we'll get the vaccines done soon enough anyway!

Judging by your less than a 100k comment, it seems you are judging Irish numbers by people who have had both doses. Any reason you aren't judging the UK numbers by the same metric?

[Deleted User]

Widescreen wrote: »

You see, we accept slack performance in this country, that is why less than a hundred thousand people have had a vaccine in two months!
And supply HAS been sitting around at times, especially recently when the issue between getting either Astra or Pfizer came up.

Aah shur, we'll get the vaccines done soon enough anyway!

Oh FFS

ixoy

Polar101 wrote: »

Anyone want to bet that most of Europe will be done (roughly) at the same time?

Broadly. If current vaccination rates continue, Ireland will actually be done before the likes of Germany and France.

brickster69

El Weirdo wrote: »

Yep.

And you know what other graph we're behind the UK on? Deaths.

All these people banging on about how great the Brits are doing with the vaccines all seem to have forgotten what a shit show they presided over for the previous 12 months.

Oh come on. Do you really think if Ireland had a 2.5 times bigger land area and 14 times bigger population everything would of gone far better. Might not of gone worse granted.

josip

brickster69 wrote: »

Get jabbing Ireland

https://twitter.com/TAW_Design/status/1360753278766772230

Although it's a valid question by Paxton, the graph he tweeted is totally disingenuous.
It measures total doses, not percentage of population, completely ignoring the fact that the UK is many times bigger than Ireland.

Meanwhile here's Jeremy PaxMAN (thanks lbj666

)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwlsd8RAoqI

brickster69

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Whilst we are currently behind the UK, it is just a tad disingenuous to use a graph that has not been adjusted for population.

You are right, sorry about that. Not intended.

https://twitter.com/TAW_Design/status/1361615959014916098

lbj666

josip wrote: »

Although it's a valid question by Paxton, the graph he tweeted is totally disingenuous.
It measures total doses, not percentage of population, completely ignoring the fact that the UK is many times bigger than Ireland.

How far he's fallen since his peak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwlsd8RAoqI

Paxton and Paxman are different people.

And I think this was his peak

josip

lbj666 wrote: »

Paxton and Paxman are different people.

And I think this was his peak

Phew, thanks for pointing out that blunder

I'll leave the Michael Howard clip there, cheers me up to watch

IRISHSPORTSGUY

What's with all the pointless UK vaccination comparisons? The annoying thing is people are so absorbed in British media in this country that the average John & Mary from Ballinasloe will think it's all the Irish government's fault for the EU being so constrained with supply.

Russman

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

What's with all the pointless UK vaccination comparisons? The annoying thing is people are so absorbed in British media in this country that the average John & Mary from Ballinasloe will think it's all the Irish government's fault for the EU being so constrained with supply.

I can't thank this post enough. Who gives a flying fcuk what the UK are doing ? Might as well compare with the Ivory Coast for all the relevance it has.

is_that_so

Russman wrote: »

I can't thank this post enough. Who gives a flying fcuk what the UK are doing ? Might as well compare with the Ivory Coast for all the relevance it has.

TBF it will deliver data for mass vaccinations with AZ, otherwise it's just a country adopting a particular vaccination approach.

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El Weirdo wrote: »

Yep.

And you know what other graph we're behind the UK on? Deaths.

All these people banging on about how great the Brits are doing with the vaccines all seem to have forgotten what a shit show they presided over for the previous 12 months.

That is irrelevant to a vaccine discussion though. The UK is doing better than Ireland on vaccine rollouts, that is a fact. Why do people have to try and argue it?

We know why they're doing better and its largely out of our control, but that doesn't mean we have to downplay their success.

The gap is definitely going to be bigger than 3 or 4 weeks too

Russman wrote: »

I can't thank this post enough. Who gives a flying fcuk what the UK are doing ? Might as well compare with the Ivory Coast for all the relevance it has.

What nonsense. We share an Island with them, its massively relevant.

Melanchthon

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

What's with all the pointless UK vaccination comparisons? The annoying thing is people are so absorbed in British media in this country that the average John & Mary from Ballinasloe will think it's all the Irish government's fault for the EU being so constrained with supply.

We had months and months of UK comparisons when the UK and England in particular was being hit hard, we had opinion pieces where the way the UK was going solo rather than part of the EU plan was going to end in disaster for their vaccination program, we had an intense focus on how northern Ireland was doing particularly when the government was trying to divert attention away from itself down here.

Good recent enough example is M.Martin saying Northern Ireland wasn't sequencing to detect variants which was a blatant lie but fitted the partner of diverting attention to focus on failures elsewhere.

So of course after all this there is going to be a focus on the UK vaccination effort or is it only ok to pay attention when it makes FF/FG look good.

CrowdedHouse

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1361654751490957317?s=20

ixoy

Melanchthon wrote: »

So of course after all this there is going to be a focus on the UK vaccination effort or is it only ok to pay attention when it makes FF/FG look good.

So far, our vaccination efforts - the parts we have control over - do make us look pretty good.

Le Bruise

Yevon wrote: »

What reason is there for Seven Oaks to come out and say this publicly? Contact the person you were dealing with in the HSE and sort it out ffs.

Free publicity (and a little faux outrage) I would say.

MerlinSouthDub

Le Bruise wrote: »

Free publicity (and a little faux outrage) I would say.

And trying to look for a higher fee, no doubt.

Russman

is_that_so wrote: »

TBF it will deliver data for mass vaccinations with AZ, otherwise it's just a country adopting a particular vaccination approach.

Ohh I agree, its just that it seems like every second post on what was a very informative thread has become UK this, UK that, bla, bla. Its apples and oranges on a host of levels.

is_that_so

Le Bruise wrote: »

Free publicity (and a little faux outrage) I would say.

Nah, it's really evidence that the new untried system is botched, a disaster, not fit for purpose etc.!

mick087

El Weirdo wrote: »

Yep.

And you know what other graph we're behind the UK on? Deaths.

All these people banging on about how great the Brits are doing with the vaccines all seem to have forgotten what a shit show they presided over for the previous 12 months.

I very much doubt anyone in any country will forget the previous 12 months or for that matter the next 12 months.

The death rate in the UK is appalling so to in France Italy and Spain.

Lets not let our government point fingers at other countries death rates being higher to justify our own death rates.
Most countries have failed its citizens and we need to know why the poorest have suffered the most.

Widescreen

ceegee wrote: »

Judging by your less than a 100k comment, it seems you are judging Irish numbers by people who have had both doses. Any reason you aren't judging the UK numbers by the same metric?

Sorry I meant two hundred thousand.

ACitizenErased

Widescreen wrote: »

At least by the responses here everyone is happy with the laid back ,chilled approach of the country. There's no rush really I guess, if we get the vaccine before we get the virus, sure that'll be grand!

You clearly haven't read any of the responses

iguana

Sitting outside my 90yr old grandmother’s GP waiting for her to come out after her vaccine. There is an absolute slew of elderly people coming in and out. It’s actually making me really tearful.

Unfortunately the Guards are also here, clearly to make sure no nutters turn up to protest/cause disruption. (Not unfortunate that they are here obviously, just that it’s necessary!)

hmmm

Yevon wrote: »

What reason is there for Seven Oaks to come out and say this publicly? Contact the person you were dealing with in the HSE and sort it out ffs.

It was actually Seven Oaks Total Landscaping.

iamwhoiam

iguana wrote: »

Sitting outside my 90yr old grandmother’s GP waiting for her to come out after her vaccine. There is an absolute slew of elderly people coming in and out. It’s actually making me really tearful.

Unfortunately the Guards are also here, clearly to make sure no nutters turn up to protest/cause disruption. (Not unfortunate that they are here obviously, just that it’s necessary!)

Delighted for your grandmother !

This made me tearful today

https://m.independent.ie/news/unbridled-joy-from-patients-as-gps-start-to-roll-out-the-covid-19-vaccine-40098411.html

ceegee

J&J application received by EMA. Hopefully won't be too long to approve

Cork2021

I know it been posted already but fûck it!!!!

GET IN THERE!!!

https://twitter.com/ema_news/status/1361698219764445184?s=21

Cork2021

Also this!!

https://twitter.com/coronavirusgoo1/status/1361694630983720966?s=21

And this

https://twitter.com/coronavirusgoo1/status/1361688668059099141?s=21