tobefrank321 wrote: » What I've gathered from this whole discussion is the standard of volunteer coaches in Dublin before 2002 and in other counties since 2002 has been really poor. I know the volunteer coaches give up their time but it really feels like they are just not improving or creating a lot of great footballers. I'd say the reason for this is unlike professional coaches they simply do not have the time to put into training, S&C and skills improvement. Professional coaching is where its at. The more you have the better you will be, its really that simple.
tritium wrote: » There’s apparently 300 across the country. About 70 in dublin so 230 spread around everywhere else. Seems like a lot so I’m wondering where they are that other counties aren’t getting any benefit. The GAA used to publish a breakdown but I haven’t been able to find it right now, but from memory outside of dublin some provinces did better than others on a per capita basis Edit: here’s an older doc with a breakdownhttps://www.gaa.ie/api/pdfs/image/upload/tstblikbtwvqfubdiwpe.pdf
awaywithyou wrote: » absolutely no way should coaches be made redundant.... i for one dont have a problem with the funding dublin gaa has access to from central council.. my issue is it is completely wrong for the parent company to be handing out money galore to one of its 32 counties... while giving the rest peanuts... that is not dublins fault... the other 31 counties would want to grow a backbone and let the GAA know that either they get the same funding per player or they are withdrawing their teams from competition.... it is completely completely wrong for central council to show favouritism to one of its memebers over the others.... The issue has nothing to do with dublin... the other 31 counties should be having a go at John Horan Tom Ryan etc... not John Costello
The Lost Sheep wrote: » dublins reign wont last and what exactly is competitive anyway?
Bambi wrote: » Name the clubs Name the counties Give the differences in finances
Bass Reeves wrote: » Funding per player is now no use. As I explained on a post about small club finances co-founding is not an options. Dublin GAA should be expected to fund there own coaches at this stage. 50-90% funding of coaches into schools and clubs should be targeted at the rest of the country for the next 10-years
tritium wrote: » Because they were in real danger of being lost to the GAA if something wasn’t done to develop the game amongst the kids in dublin
RoyalCelt wrote: » GAA was in more danger in Antrim and got no special treatment. Is it too hard to admit dublin got unfair funding which has resulted in a far better gaa outlook in your county compared to others? It's directly affecting results and will for decades to come.
Enquiring wrote: » Some clubs have 2 full time coaches and other positions overseeing it all, like a coaching director. There are many clubs in Dublin with the finance and set up that dwarfs a lot of counties.
ooter wrote: » Was geezer getting paid when he was at the wheel in Kildare?
ShyMets wrote: » So has anyone explained how splitting Dublin gets the likes of Waterford, Antrim & Leitrim closer to winning a provincial title
RoyalCelt wrote: » Has anybody explained how grossly over funding dublin and under funding everybody else for 2 decades gets anybody bar dublin closer to winning anything?
kilns wrote: » I wouldnt bother, that poster pulls things out of his arse and then avoids answering when pulled up on it
kilns wrote: » Got, thats the important word in your statement. They dont now. In fact your county has received substantial increases in funding, from 2017 to 2018 it roses 30% and now Meath receive more games development funding per child than Dublin. I am sure you now happy that the issue has been addressed in that regard
RoyalCelt wrote: » I'm raging that it wasn't addressed the day dublin originally got given this massive advantage about 15 years previous. The GAA murdered one of the biggest rivalries it had. Dublin v meath matches were epic. And we are still at a disadvantage to dublin in every way so the chances of ever closing the gap because we get more per head is tiny. I'm raging even more though that other counties are still forgotten by the GAA. I don't want meath and Kildare prioritised, I want everyone. And I want a spacial multi million project to save hurling pushed into other leinster counties. Huge potential to grow the sport but sadly we're not called Dublin.
Enquiring wrote: » You are still trying so hard to erase history but the 2 decades of funding cannot be ignored. Obviously because it gave Dublin a 2 decade head start and also because it led to an increase in titles won by Dublin which lead to increased sponsorship. 1.5 million in sponsorship in 2016 for example and it's gone up since then. This is why Dublin must be split, if only people within the GAA and Dublin GAA were interested in fair play from the start of this century. They weren't though so its left Usain this position.
tritium wrote: » This tired aul ****e again Funny at how ye all care about poor wee ulster all of a sudden. When you thought there was mileage in it it was all poor Leinster, how that that’s run out of gas it’s poor ulster and won’t someone think of the children. Pathetic really. Ulster at the start of the funding was actually consistently performing. From the figures I posed earlier you can see that 3 AI winning counties were in ulstersince the 90s which had become the only real bulwark to absolute Kerry domination- without tyrones influence Kerry would have had a 6 in a row at least and possibly an 8 in a row Since you care so much about poor wee ulster you’ll love this thoughhttps://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.sportsjoe.ie/amp/gaa/gaelfast-156749 The GAA looking to applying the lessons from the dublin plan to another large population centre. I can’t wait to have some of you on here in a few years whinging about how we need to split Antrim
kilns wrote: » So now that counties like Meath are being overfunded compared to Dublin, we should see Meath improving and becoming more competitive in the future right?
ClanofLams wrote: » The confidence this is repeatedly stated with by many on here is based on absolutely nothing. In fact, if one looks at the data posted earlier in the thread in terms of player numbers and the growing gap the last three championships reflect, the likelihood that Dublin's dominance will continue is very very high.
Enquiring wrote: » Ah another return poster. You dropped out earlier when you couldn't counter any facts raised. Can you help your buddy out with the post above in relation to the Dublin county board accounts?
RoyalCelt wrote: » No because we're not being over funded by 20 times what dublin get an for a 15 year period. We will also not get to play in Navan for most matches. We also don't have the playing numbers of dublin. The sponsorship potential or the resources afforded by being from the capital such as multiple universities. Glad you think we will though but just remember dublin fans get just as much fun from leinster as fans from other counties the only difference is you lot are still paying into watch that crap. Ultimately we are all losers here but keep digging those heals in because you're not getting the credit you feel your county deserves.
Enquiring wrote: » At least you admit your argument of poor Dublin desperately needing the funding was pure nonsense. Many other counties were more deserving. And you still havent learned the meaning of fair play. 2 decades of over funding for Dublin was wrong and a disgrace. You cant erase it, Dublin must be split.
Enquiring wrote: » Dublin received over 12.5 times the development funding Cork received. You didnt manage to find a reason to justify that as yet? Can you point out any other county getting this level of imbalanced funding?