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How many people on Boards have a mask and if so are you wearing them for essential trips? And this late in the day where can you get one that is going to be half decent and not from a suspect seller who could have done anything to it?

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dwayneshintzy

GT89 wrote: »

No they didn't stop the virus spreading in China. If masks are so effective then Covid would have been contained in China

Masks are one measure to help slow spread. They do not stop spread entirely, nobody has claimed that as far as I can see.

Mask usage also universal in Hong Kong, Macau, South Korea and Taiwan.

Away With The Fairies

GT89 wrote: »

No they didn't stop the virus spreading in China. If masks are so effective then Covid would have been contained in China

Do you have any idea how this virus spreads?

People are infectious before showing symptoms.

Get on a plane when you're infected without knowing and that's how it's been spread from country to country.

Overheal

i_surge wrote: »

What concerns me is the ubiquity of papery surgical masks which are fairly ****. Low standards abound.

You embarrass yourself.

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odyssey06

GT89 wrote: »

No they didn't stop the virus spreading in China. If masks are so effective then Covid would have been contained in China

When you look at the total deaths for China...
And then for Ireland.

Pretty clear that masks are very effective.

Very effective doesnt mean stopping 100 percent so your strawman is burned there.
And the virus had already left China before masks were mandatory so your post is burned there too.

screamer

GT89 wrote: »

No masks in Sweden and society has not collapsed like some suggested it would. If no masks is good enough for Sweden then it should be good enough for Ireland.

Sweden has a far more compliant population than we have....... they take the advise of their government in good faith and with things like covid believe the powers that be know best. Don’t think that’d work here....... I can’t imagine why

Overheal

GT89 wrote: »

No they didn't stop the virus spreading in China. If masks are so effective then Covid would have been contained in China

Do you have evidence everyone in Wuhan was wearing masks even before the government revealed the virus was already spreading through the community?

Talking out of your hole.

i_surge

Overheal wrote: »

You embarrass yourself.

I accept your point fully but I'm pushing for a maximalist approach to getting the virus to F off.

EagererBeaver

Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »

Masks were introduced because people were dying not because of cases. Please tell me your not one of those people who lives in Barcelona and thinks they own the place?

I'm one of those people who lives in Barcelona who follows the law of the land which, here, means wearing a mask in all public places.

Arghus

This thread is demented.

Just be a sound person, wear a mask.

Away With The Fairies

Overheal wrote: »

You embarrass yourself.

Just looking at this picture, and I wonder would viral load have anything to do with less people dying now? As in masks have been helping because people aren't getting as much virus in them?

[Deleted User]

i_surge wrote: »

Which turned out to be a tragic error.

The countries that didn't spread misinformation about masks and encouraged people that homemade was better than nothing, fared better so far.

Such as Finland and Norway for example. Or even New Zealand

Face masks as a supplementary tool in addition to social distancing and Track and trace are useful as we have more and more interactions where we cannot distance. But it’s by far and a way a lower impact than the other measures. In lockdown masks are not very useful as social interactions outside your own group are very rare. This is evidenced by both the successful suppression of the virus n multiple countries without mandatory face masks, and in the lack of a significant outbreak associated with a supermarket from March through May, when it was the only place most people were really interacting frequently outside household groups

Overheal

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Just looking at this picture, and I wonder would viral load have anything to do with less people dying now? As in masks have been helping because people aren't getting as much virus in them?

Seems to make layman sense, your body has to fight off a smaller initial infection and exponential growth is not as virulent.

GT89

Arghus wrote: »

This thread is demented.

Just be a sound person, wear a mask.

Ok Karen

weldoninhio

Court in Strasbourg has overturned the city’s decision to force people to wear masks in public.

Arghus

GT89 wrote: »

Ok Karen

Wanting to do whatever you want, because it inconveniences you to do otherwise, at the potential expense of others, is the epitome of "Karen" behaviour I'm afraid.

joeguevara

weldoninhio wrote: »

Court in Strasbourg has overturned the city’s decision to force people to wear masks in public.

I would be interested in reading this (this is not a prove it post). I tried searching for an article but couldn’t find one. Would you be able to send it or post it.

Neil3030

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Just looking at this picture, and I wonder would viral load have anything to do with less people dying now? As in masks have been helping because people aren't getting as much virus in them?

Overheal wrote: »

Seems to make layman sense, your body has to fight off a smaller initial infection and exponential growth is not as virulent.

I posted this on another thread, but there's a pretty good study either just out, or soon to be published, conducted with the Swiss Army.

They tested two Army units who never had any contact with one another. Fairly safe to assume they both had very similar routines, lifestyles, daily activities etc.

On March 11th a positive case of symptomatic Covid19 was reported in Unit 1, which led the army to imposed strict rules about social distancing and handwashing for all units. March 31st they tested a small sample of Unit 2 and found no positive cases. So the basic idea here is that the virus was spreading around Unit 1 before the social distancing/hygiene rules were brought in, but Unit 2 was clean.

Fast forward a couple of weeks (April 14th) and they tested samples from both Units: in Unit 1, 62% came back positive, while in Unit 2, 14% came back positive. These were all asymptomatic, so traces of virus (i.e., Sars-Cov2) but not the illness (Covid-19). So two developments: (a) virus now spreading fairly strongly in Unit 1, and (b) virus now present in Unit 2, but lower presence.

Fastforward another 2-ish weeks (May 3rd), Unit 1 went on to develop 102 cases of the actual ILLNESS (Covid-19), while Unit 2 didn't see a single case.

They conclude: Social distancing and good hygiene reduces not only the risk that you get the VIRUS, but ALSO reduces the risk of you getting a serious case of the ILLNESS if you do catch it.

Until now the consensus was that the severity of the disease largely related to underlying health conditions and age. But what this Army study shows quite compellingly is that there is also a link between the amount of virus you are exposed to, and the severity of your illness. Anecdotally, this is also supported by the alarming number of otherwise young, healthy medical professionals dying from Covid 19, especially early on in the pandemic when they were probably not taking near the adequate measures with regard to exposure to the virus.

And you are absolutely right, the way we track this is by following the death rate, as masks, social distancing and good hygiene become more commonplace. Case increase, but a flattened fatality rate points to people getting the virus, but via reduced viral exposure, and resulting in less severe symptoms, if any.

Tork

joeguevara wrote: »

I would be interested in reading this (this is not a prove it post). I tried searching for an article but couldn’t find one. Would you be able to send it or post it.

The only link I can find (I went onto Twitter) is this French website https://qactus.fr/2020/08/03/q-scoop-le-juge-des-referes-condamne-la-ville-de-strasbourg/ It's connected to QAnon who wouldn't be what you'd call a reputable news source

alentejo

I hope that when the time comes that it is safe to ditch the masks, the government and health authorities will publicly campaign (be it be advertising etc) that people can go to public places and are safe to do so without masks.

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alentejo wrote: »

I hope that when the time comes that it is safe to ditch the masks, the government and health authorities will publicly campaign (be it be advertising etc) that people can go to public places and are safe to do so without masks.

You will find a portion of people will wear masks for a long time after this is over. It’s what happened in the Far East after Asian flu. And what harm are they doing if they do.

joeguevara

Tork wrote: »

The only link I can find (I went onto Twitter) is this French website https://qactus.fr/2020/08/03/q-scoop-le-juge-des-referes-condamne-la-ville-de-strasbourg/ It's connected to QAnon who wouldn't be what you'd call a reputable news source

I wonder is the poster mistakenly taking a 2017 ECHR decision connected to wearing burquas and niqabs in public? I don’t want to presume this and they should be given the opportunity to clarify.

John O.Groats

alentejo wrote: »

I hope that when the time comes that it is safe to ditch the masks, the government and health authorities will publicly campaign (be it be advertising etc) that people can go to public places and are safe to do so without masks.

TBH I think that advice may never be given or at least not for a long time to come. Just like the smoking ban, the drink driving laws etc etc mask wearing is going to be part of the new normal folks. Best to accept it.

Away With The Fairies

Very interesting study on the army in the post above.

Neil3030

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Very interesting study on the army in the post above.

Full article is here

alentejo

joeguevara wrote: »

I wonder is the poster mistakenly taking a 2017 ECHR decision connected to wearing burquas and niqabs in public? I don’t want to presume this and they should be given the opportunity to clarify.

I just think society will at some stage require to get back to normal. Masks are not normal. People may wear them for years after covid. The longer this goes on, the longer it will take for society to readjust.

Ps if people want to wear burquas, off with them (as long as it's their choice)

joeguevara

alentejo wrote: »

I just think society will at some stage require to get back to normal. Masks are not normal. People may wear them for years after covid. The longer this goes on, the longer it will take for society to readjust.

Ps if people want to wear burquas, off with them (as long as it's their choice)

I was posting above in relation to a poster who says a Strasbourg court has reversed a decision on wearing masks in public and made it look like it is in reference to current situation.

[Deleted User]

joeguevara wrote: »

I was posting above in relation to a poster who says a Strasbourg court has reversed a decision on wearing masks in public and made it look like it is in reference to current situation.

How is it being handled in those countries that have laws on face coverings in public preceeding COVID. Are there places with conflicting laws both preventing and requiring the use use of face coverings in public?

McGiver

robinph wrote: »

Scotland has been wearing masks for several weeks now, but today Aberdeen is being locked down again to a certain level due to a spike in cases.

Is this spike in cases caused by:
a) people wearing masks
b) people hanging out in bars
c) pirates/ the spaghetti monster

The C is correct!

Har har har!

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

Let's hope they have signs outside the shops.

No mask, No entry, No service.

and

someone to police it...... Not just Mary saying "OK I will let you in this time". The first bit of power that the downtrodden Mary has ever had in her life. She feels good.

Yeah let’s hope they do the same when our COVID test apps come in and then you’ve to prove you’ve gotten the vaccine.

No vaccine, no shops, no food.

joeguevara

Deleted User wrote: »

How is it being handled in those countries that have laws on face coverings in public preceeding COVID. Are there places with conflicting laws both preventing and requiring the use use of face coverings in public?

I was just reading about that as it occurred to me that it was not raised here. The cases that banned particular face coverings was where they made the person completely unidentifiable. So Covid like masks don’t appear to fall under this as half face masks were exempted. I do wonder why it isn’t a more frequent argument though.

And in most countries where bans are in place the legislation allows for exemptions based on the common good, presumably for a scenario like this.