Millem wrote: » I agree with you. Our school has most items crested!! I get him to change him straight away when he comes home. I buy two of everything anyway. 2 days in wears a tracksuit and 3 days uniform. The crested items were expensive (school jumper €30ish and pe jumper €25ish) but then I just bought the shirts and trousers in aldi and they were grand!!! I wouldn’t care buying 5 of every though if it meant he could go back to school!!! Not sure though if they will be doing pe next year?? My son’s school has a separate pe teacher. In my own school (secondary) we know what we are due to teach and pe is on the timetable
Deeec wrote: » I suppose my point is surely if kids wear a clean uniform/tracksuit every day its the same as clean ordinary clothes every day. Someone mentioned before kids are going to be wearing the same coat and shoes every day without washing so I don't know what it is achieving by having no uniform.
Lillyfae wrote: » The only thing I would be resistant to here is your spelling. Rant Alert As a teacher this is my biggest bugbear. The equating of spelling as somehow indicative of how educated or intelligent someone is. You see it all the time on boards - it’s the go to diss. I teach a lot of dyslexic children - I have a senior child this year who can not access text or spell cvc words. But that is what it is an inability to access text - he is a highly intelligent child with huge potential. Before anyone jumps on the well a teacher should have a high standard of spelling to do their job effectively rubbish - I teach my kids that it’s ok to make mistakes - everyone does what’s important is learning from them. Rant over ðŸ˜
KerryConnor wrote: » I think education in this country is very good dispite underfunding. Its not bells and whistle s (as we ve discovered) but then in normal circumstances it doesn't have to be. Nearly the simpler the better.
lulublue22 wrote: » Lillyfae wrote: » The only thing I would be resistant to here is your spelling. Rant Alert As a teacher this is my biggest bugbear. The equating of spelling as somehow indicative of how educated or intelligent someone is. You see it all the time on boards - it’s the go to diss. I teach a lot of dyslexic children - I have a senior child this year who can not access text or spell cvc words. But that is what it is an inability to access text - he is a highly intelligent child with huge potential. Before anyone jumps on the well a teacher should have a high standard of spelling to do there job effectively rubbish - I teach my kids that it’s ok to make mistakes - everyone does what’s important is learning from them. Rant over 😠Touché, and apologies to Khalessi.
Lillyfae wrote: » The only thing I would be resistant to here is your spelling. Rant Alert As a teacher this is my biggest bugbear. The equating of spelling as somehow indicative of how educated or intelligent someone is. You see it all the time on boards - it’s the go to diss. I teach a lot of dyslexic children - I have a senior child this year who can not access text or spell cvc words. But that is what it is an inability to access text - he is a highly intelligent child with huge potential. Before anyone jumps on the well a teacher should have a high standard of spelling to do there job effectively rubbish - I teach my kids that it’s ok to make mistakes - everyone does what’s important is learning from them. Rant over ðŸ˜
Lillyfae wrote: » I appreciate your point and definitely agree with you, KerryConnor, but I think you'll also agree with me that not everyone pulls their weight in the sector- and I'm not just talking about the teaching staff on the ground. I would not class toilet paper and soap as bells and whistles. I've said it before, every school in the country should be plug and play, teachers with devices that are linked to a school network which they put on a docking station when they get in to work in the morning. White boards and screens, not chalk and endless printing. Teachers buying pencils so that the children can colour ffs. Employ people who actually know what they're doing in Management, IT, facilities etc etc and run it properly rather than having someone who is a teaching graduate doing every conceivable job in the whole sector. And retire people who are supposed to retire and let the next generation come in!!
jlm29 wrote: » There’s a little company near me that puts the crests on plain jumpers and sweatshirts for €5 a crest. So I’ve ordered plain ones from next/dunnes and will get crests put on. Have found the sizing hit and miss with the ones that come from the uniform shop. And the quality not always great, so said I’d try it this way this year. Sorry for the off topic!
Icantthinkof1 wrote: » I know this thread is about school returning in September so apologies in advance but I’m curious will colleges return in September? I hope they don’t
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Money, money, money. Govt never see the point in funding our education sector properly.
Lillyfae wrote: » Distance learning is a module covered at University level. I studied it years ago and have since had continuous updating of my knowledge and skills on it. If it's not taught to teachers in training then the training is not fit for the purpose of getting children to third level.You took it as an adult at university level aimed at adults. It has to be further developed and adapted to be used to teach children. No one ever expected we would need it for a pandemic for primary school, but now we move forward. Not computer savvy? Today?? Not a valid excuse at all.Hence I made a point of saying so to the school, and also I felt the platform used was not condusive to learning. I also made a point of saying the learning support teacher was fabulous and very helpful. But I will say there are a number of teachers who are not computer savvy and didnt need to be as they have amazing skills in other areas and no one realsied a pandemic was coming. That's not innovation Khalessi, that's education. I don't even know what the bit in bold is supposed to mean.The innovation is how it is gone about, which is over and above what is in the curriculum, entering Young Scientists exhibition every year, winning national music competitions, investing and using STEM in innovative ways, using IT in interesting ways and have been doing so for nearly 20 years, the norm now but innovative when we did it. Encouraging children to see Maths through new eyes and learn it in new ways, implementing the daily mile programme which showed improvements in fitness, mental wellbeing, attention levels and discipline, and this is separate to pe. Implementing a pe at home programme to combat obesity and make fitness fun, getting all the family and community involved. Maths week, Science week, Wellbeing week, Culture week. That is innovation, not just education. I could go on but it is more than education and the important thing is the children love it. The highlighted part is a reference to the fact that unless a school gets on tv no one realises how they are being innovative. Well 90% of the time it's "The Department" won't do this or "The BoM" won't allow that. The problem is that some teachers on the thread are taking everything like it's their personal problem to solve. All you can do is teach, and take suggestions/ solutions/ issues to your manager. It is not your job to solve the education problem. You are not qualified to do this, nobody expects you to do this.Well if I or teachers are not qualified to do it and we work in the area of education then people on here who feel they can comment freely while not working in education are definiftely not qualified to comment on it. And teachers do teach while it is all going on. It might not be our job to solve the problems but there are a lot of non teachers on here who are critical of teachers and think we should be providing solutions and then criticise if they dont. I dont think teachers see it as their personal problem, I just think the same teachers on here answers questions as they are regular posters on the thread so it can look like that. The only thing I disagree with here is your spellingLovely. Thank you. The definition of constructive criticism seems very subjective at times, and this comment could come from either side of the argument to be fair. There is definitely right and wrong on both sides.
Lillyfae wrote: » Money for what? Supplies or professionals? Because I would bet that the professionals are pretty well funded.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Equipment, networking of schools, funding to train people in how to use them. This is all money. We aren't funded properly. Remember why do a lot of schools have to ask for voluntary contributions to cover basics.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Also prior to this crisis there had been huge resistance to moving things online and/or using electronic books. A very public example of this would be the secondary school in Ratoath and one in Claremorris that ended up on the front pages of the national papers with protests.
Lillyfae wrote: » Having professionals with the knowledge and skills to manage the money and the people would go a long way to solving this problem. I've heard of this but I'm not completely familiar, would appreciate a source so that I can form an opinion.
SusanC10 wrote: » Will Students and Teachers need to self-isolate for 14 days and not go to school if they go on abroad in the 2nd half of August ? Or mid-Term etc.
Deeec wrote: » I think no uniforms will just make it harder on families. My 9.5 yr old is very fashion conscious - school will become a fashion show. It is much cheaper ( primary school) to buy a few uniforms from dunnes than to buying expensive clothes to be the same as their friends. Its a ridiculous decision. Even the school tracksuit in my kids school is cheap to buy.
markodaly wrote: » FFS come off it, we are in the middle of a global pandemic and the fashion decisions of a 9-year-old should not decide the best way forward when it comes to making a decision. Sometimes, I pity the DoE when these are the submissions and suggestions they would be getting.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Manage what money? That's the issue that us teachers on here keep banging on about.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/principal-of-school-at-centre-of-ipad-row-defends-policy-on-digital-devices-1.3911135
wirelessdude01 wrote: » There is one example. Very easy to go find more if are so inclined.
khalessi wrote: » I disagree that there is resisitance to change. Change happens all the time in teaching, it is a career you have to be flexible in and up for change. Being resisitant to change is not pointing out where there are flaws in a plan or suggestions to help something happen, like say the reopening of schools, or saying finance is required, it is being honest and practical.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Think you'll find someone taking out loud of boards isn't actually a submission to the dept ��
BonsaiKitten wrote: » That's what the private schools seem to be saying to parents anyway. I don't know if public schools could enforce it without a directive from the Government.
iamwhoiam wrote: » Surely anyone that chooses to go abroad and need to isolate for 14 days would not be paid for those 14 days then ?
markodaly wrote: » I disagree that there is resisitance to change. Change happens all the time in teaching, it is a career you have to be flexible in and up for change. I disagree with you there. Irish teachers are very set in their ways, in my experience. To take one example, why do Irish teacher have so much more summer holidays than their UK, US, Australian, NZ and European counterparts. Secondary school students no longer have to go out to the farm and harvest the crop, the original reason to the long break, yet would Irish teachers be happy to revert to European norms? However, its understandable if you take a look at the usual demographic that makes up primary teachers. Female, white, Irish and rural would make up the vast vast majority of Irish primary teachers, which in no way shape or form, is a representation of the wider Irish community. The Irish language is the artificial barrier here, and primary teachers know only too well that with that there, they are on to a good one. No 'outsiders' can take their job. Its kinda a discussion for another day, but that would be another example.
IrishHomer wrote: » I can work from home and I have a flat/office at the rear or my home
