FrancieBrady wrote: » So everyone...including Unionists, the British, the various monitoring bodies are looking at the 'RA, 1800 strong openly parading the streets of Belfast and doing nothing about it? Cool story.
Mortelaro wrote: » It would be ridiculous to think there are 1800 Ra members in the North at this stage,they stopped recruiting in the mid 90's I'd say even you're not a member The 1800 stewards alone broke the rules by a factor of 60 But in good old Irish policing,the funeral wasn't stopped out of pragmatic respect for the dead Such a high profile funeral because of the numbers has to be investigated but Mon knows no charges will be laid Thats not a vindication The whole thing is an affront to 1000's of grieving who stuck to the rules though because they were told to by Michelle I'll have a random man take a selfie with his arm around me o neill that they had to She being hugged when 100's of grannies and grandads were dying alone An absolute disgrace
Spanish Eyes wrote: » This thread has 195 pages so far.They really haven't gone away and their apologists are a total disgrace. But they never recognised An Garda Siochana as being legitimate anyway. Remember your man Ferris bringing Garda killers home from Castlerea? The underbelly of SF will forever be associated with this kind of thing. It will never go away for the vast majority. And look at the calibre of some of the candidates elected this year also. The local SF Cumainn have a lot to answer for as has MLMD. Anyway, I await the backlash. But I don't care anymore. Hope the time in opposition works out for them all. Hurlers on the ditch as always, with a dark underbelly.
FrancieBrady wrote: » My question was very specifically about what the poster was claiming.
Mortelaro wrote: » Funerals aren't touched, they just get lip service Its just such a pity so many ordinary funerals stuck by the numbers rule resulting in more grief As Sinn Féin have shown, it was all for nothing
Mortelaro wrote: » Because I meant by coronavirus fines or police action regarding that,have you heard of any north or south? I haven't
Pkiernan wrote: » What about funerals for Gerry and Mary Lou's disappeared?
FrancieBrady wrote: » You answered my question about the RA by saying 'funerals aren't touched'. Why would you say that if you didn't think they were the IRA?
Mortelaro wrote: » I didn't say they were 'Ra Why are you saying I did? My comment was on numbers
FrancieBrady wrote: » So 1800 'RA men and women can turn up at a funetal and nobody does anything? GFA stays intact? You guys credibility just finally gave it's last sigh and departed. 1800 'RA. Just wow!
Truthvader wrote: » Good man Francie .The road goes on forever and the party never ends. Where's the "proof" Gerry was in the IRA, where's the "proof" Bobby robbed the Northern Bank, where's the "proof" Paul Quinn or Joe Rafferty were murdered by the IRA, where's the "proof" men in white shirts were not just Leeds United supporters on the rip in Belfast, where's the proof Daniel Kinahan has any connection to drugs at all - sorry wrong gang On it goes; but like your "Tiocfeadh ar la" sloganeering everyone knows what the budget uniformed presence at St Bobby's funeral really means and everyone knows what Sinn Fein mean when the "urge" people to give information to the PSNI or when your local community activist/ committed republican lets you know he would "appreciate it" if you could do or not do something. Play away on your "proof game" but try not to assume everyone else is a fool
FrancieBrady wrote: » Anything is possible. Could have been aliens there too. Depends on the level of proof you have though whether I believe you though. SF asked members to show up in B/W. I see nothing yet to change my view on that.
Hamsterchops wrote: » But Storey was a member of said terrorist organisation, so it would would it not, be strange if they (the Provos) didn't appear is some form at his funeral. I mean, after all the effort he put into furthering their aims they must have been there in force somewhere, maybe 'hiding in plain sight' in the white shirts? Possibly?
Truthvader wrote: » Not killing at random in exchange for seizing power is not "fair play". It is a thug and a bully getting his own way Plus they reserve the right to kill you if they really want you dead - or to rob a bank or launder diesel etc if they need money.
Bowie wrote: » I believe they achieved enough to put down guns and turn to politics. So fair play if he helped with that. Likely there were numerous former IRA there. Are you criticising them for not forming an illegal armed guard?
FrancieBrady wrote: » I said already I 'presume it was members of SF', and I have some evidence that it was SF members who were asked to turn out in black ties and white shirts. If you look for the text Colum Eastwood put into the public domain you will see that evidence. Now, to you and the others suggesting they were representing anybody else, please put up what evidence you have of that? Or is it the usual, hideous society you want us all to live in, where an allegation is enough to decide the guilt of selected people and party's?
blanch152 wrote: » So what group were in uniform at the Storey funeral? We would recognise the colours of a GAA, Soccer or rugby club, so who were the men in white shirts representing?
blanch152 wrote: » Are you suggesting that Sinn Fein were allowed carry out the traditional escorting of the coffin during a pandemic when others were not allowed do that? One rule for Sinn Fein, one rule for ordinary people.
Bowie wrote: » How is my saying I don't know and telling what I witnessed 'confused'? You wouldn't be trying to make it sound like something it isn't? You might not be use to straight talk. Now you proceed to tell me how funerals work sometimes backing up my descriptions. Cremations mean the body gets burned? You don't say? :rolleyes: So you didn't like there funeral because the traditional escorting of the coffin wasn't to your liking because of who the man was. So what? Desperate lads.
rdwight wrote: » You seem a little confused, Bowie. Surprising since one thing we Irish consider ourselves experts on is funerals. Crematoriums are sometimes located in graveyards eg Mount Jerome and Glasnevin in Dublin. In some cases the main funeral service takes place in a church or chapel elsewhere and a short final service is conducted in the crematorium before, as you put it, the coffin goes behind a curtain. Since you don't seem to know what happens then, the answer is that the body is burned. In other cases, particularly for non-religious funerals, the entire service is conducted in the crematorium. The issue with Strorey funeral is that thousands of people went from the church to Milltown cemetery when the crematorium was in fact several miles in a different direction. Turning funerals into political circuses is a well established SF/IRA custom, but doing so in the middle of a pandemic is particularly crass.
FrancieBrady wrote: » If the GAA, Soccer Club, Golf Club want to show their respect as a 'group' at a funeral...what do they do? The wear shirts and club tie. You can review photos of the state funeral to see recent examples of this.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » We still talking about a funeral last week in Belfast.
