christy c wrote: » I'm fully up to date with the hand waving, thanks anyway.
McMurphy wrote: » Sorry, it's just who's engaging in it you're having difficulties with is it?
christy c wrote: » Not having difficulties at all.
Happyilylost wrote: » Memory issues to contend with also. Posted yesterday.https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/coronavirus-covid-19-recovery-plan Indoor activities involving larger number of individuals where social distancing can be maintained for individuals who do not share a household connection. Outdoor activities involving larger groups of less than 30 people during which it may be difficult to maintain social distancing but where contacts are brief (less than 10 minutes).
McMurphy wrote: » Evidently you are Christopher, you made a series of brainfart posts about handwaving, can you perhaps point to whom was engaging in it? I'll give you a fools pardon if you've misread posts btw. It's sh1t or get off the pot time.
joeguevara wrote: » Ok. This is my issue. I asked what Law Sinn Fein broke or indeed the individual from Sin Fein broke. I know that you have quoted specific rules, and thanks for taking the time to do so.
christy c wrote: » First post from yourself "Anyway, that was reported on back in 2013 - old news in other words."- nice bit of handwaving. What was that about brainfarts and fool's pardons?
McMurphy wrote: » The poster I replied to questioned why the IRA have been quiet on Buckley's breathalyser test. I replied that apart from them being disbanded for over twenty years, it was already in the public domain. Unless of course the poster was suggesting the Ra should regroup and issue a statement on an already 7 year old news article. **Whoosh** As I said - fools pardon has been issued. Now, any examples of this handwaving?
joeguevara wrote: » Ok. This is my issue. I asked what Law Sinn Fein broke or indeed the individual from Sin Fein broke. I know that you have quoted specific rules, and thanks for taking the time to do so. But it is unclear (and its not your fault) what the actual breach is and who would receive a fine. It appears to be the organiser of the event which in this case would be the family of the deceased and not the individuals themselves. Also, who is to say that the people from Sinn Fein leadership who are being denigrated are not within the first 30 people which is allowed and therefore they have not broken any 'rules'. The fact that there is no actual published law which can be tested, reviewed, see if its strict liability or a reasonable test etc means calling for resignations (not you)a strange scenario. It appears that the fines or 'penalty notices' as set out in the newspaper articles are for failing to follow the direction of the police officer rather than for any orgignal offence. So any report of reviewing footage to determine offences is posturing.
christy c wrote: » Whoosh, LOL. I have you an example of you handwaving the story away by saying it was old news. Seems you had your own whoosh moment.
maccored wrote: » my god - what kind of debating is that? no longer OPERATIONAL means THEY NO LONGER DO ANYTHING regardless if the name is still there or not. A name is a bunch of letters and pretty useless if the body it represents is no longer operational Theres time I wonder how some people can figure out how to open a door.
FrancieBrady wrote: » If the GAA, Soccer Club, Golf Club want to show their respect as a 'group' at a funeral...what do they do? The wear shirts and club tie. You can review photos of the state funeral to see recent examples of this.
Truthvader wrote: » As ever Francie you just don't get it. A state funeral for a brave member of the Guards who served this country proudly and selflessly in the Uniform of the Guards is not comparable to the funeral of a thug who was a member of a criminal gang. The comparison to a "club" is pitiful
FrancieBrady wrote: » How many people at that funeral in Belfast are off the opinion they were at the funeral of a 'thug' and a 'member of a criminal gang' ? If you don't accept the analogy of a 'club' then you haven't a hope of undetstanding. Perhaps one has already made ones mind up?
dundalkfc10 wrote: » We still talking about a funeral last week in Belfast.
rdwight wrote: » You seem a little confused, Bowie. Surprising since one thing we Irish consider ourselves experts on is funerals. Crematoriums are sometimes located in graveyards eg Mount Jerome and Glasnevin in Dublin. In some cases the main funeral service takes place in a church or chapel elsewhere and a short final service is conducted in the crematorium before, as you put it, the coffin goes behind a curtain. Since you don't seem to know what happens then, the answer is that the body is burned. In other cases, particularly for non-religious funerals, the entire service is conducted in the crematorium. The issue with Strorey funeral is that thousands of people went from the church to Milltown cemetery when the crematorium was in fact several miles in a different direction. Turning funerals into political circuses is a well established SF/IRA custom, but doing so in the middle of a pandemic is particularly crass.
Bowie wrote: » How is my saying I don't know and telling what I witnessed 'confused'? You wouldn't be trying to make it sound like something it isn't? You might not be use to straight talk. Now you proceed to tell me how funerals work sometimes backing up my descriptions. Cremations mean the body gets burned? You don't say? :rolleyes: So you didn't like there funeral because the traditional escorting of the coffin wasn't to your liking because of who the man was. So what? Desperate lads.
blanch152 wrote: » So what group were in uniform at the Storey funeral? We would recognise the colours of a GAA, Soccer or rugby club, so who were the men in white shirts representing?
blanch152 wrote: » Are you suggesting that Sinn Fein were allowed carry out the traditional escorting of the coffin during a pandemic when others were not allowed do that? One rule for Sinn Fein, one rule for ordinary people.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I said already I 'presume it was members of SF', and I have some evidence that it was SF members who were asked to turn out in black ties and white shirts. If you look for the text Colum Eastwood put into the public domain you will see that evidence. Now, to you and the others suggesting they were representing anybody else, please put up what evidence you have of that? Or is it the usual, hideous society you want us all to live in, where an allegation is enough to decide the guilt of selected people and party's?
Hamsterchops wrote: » But Storey was a member of said terrorist organisation, so it would would it not, be strange if they (the Provos) didn't appear is some form at his funeral. I mean, after all the effort he put into furthering their aims they must have been there in force somewhere, maybe 'hiding in plain sight' in the white shirts? Possibly?
Bowie wrote: » I believe they achieved enough to put down guns and turn to politics. So fair play if he helped with that. Likely there were numerous former IRA there. Are you criticising them for not forming an illegal armed guard?
Truthvader wrote: » Not killing at random in exchange for seizing power is not "fair play". It is a thug and a bully getting his own way Plus they reserve the right to kill you if they really want you dead - or to rob a bank or launder diesel etc if they need money.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Anything is possible. Could have been aliens there too. Depends on the level of proof you have though whether I believe you though. SF asked members to show up in B/W. I see nothing yet to change my view on that.
Truthvader wrote: » Good man Francie .The road goes on forever and the party never ends. Where's the "proof" Gerry was in the IRA, where's the "proof" Bobby robbed the Northern Bank, where's the "proof" Paul Quinn or Joe Rafferty were murdered by the IRA, where's the "proof" men in white shirts were not just Leeds United supporters on the rip in Belfast, where's the proof Daniel Kinahan has any connection to drugs at all - sorry wrong gang On it goes; but like your "Tiocfeadh ar la" sloganeering everyone knows what the budget uniformed presence at St Bobby's funeral really means and everyone knows what Sinn Fein mean when the "urge" people to give information to the PSNI or when your local community activist/ committed republican lets you know he would "appreciate it" if you could do or not do something. Play away on your "proof game" but try not to assume everyone else is a fool
FrancieBrady wrote: » So everyone...including Unionists, the British, the various monitoring bodies are looking at the 'RA, 1800 strong openly parading the streets of Belfast and doing nothing about it? Cool story.
