iamwhoiam wrote: » I understood that up to 2nd class there is no social distancing and no pods within a class ?
History Queen wrote: » What obstacle did we put in the way? We didn't create Covid?!
Rodin wrote: » The demand to be covid-secure. Whatever that means...
Millem wrote: » Point number 4 from the guidelines mention pods and 1m distance between pods.
History Queen wrote: » So you don't know what it means but have decided it is an obstacle?
Rodin wrote: » Is that an official document? I identified four spelling/grammar mistakes in first few lines before I stopped.
khalessi wrote: » Maybe the person who typed it up has dylexia or hit a wrong key.
Rodin wrote: » Certainly didn't hit 'F7'.
Deleted User wrote: » It's amazing that everybody goes quiet when the mention of contact hours comes up.
khalessi wrote: » You're lovely can I be your friend?
Rodin wrote: » You may not.
Rodin wrote: » Because it is not a defined set of criteria, those criteria are impossible to meet. An obstacle indeed.
khalessi wrote: » Awwwww and you seem so lovely and compassionate towards others, It was when you resorted to spelling mistakes I thought Iwant to be friends with the petty person and try and get that chip off their shoulder. Turn that frown upside down. But seriously why so bitter?
Rodin wrote: » Not bitter at all. Forceful of opinion I would say.
History Queen wrote: » I've posted this aready but essentially this is the position of most teachers: Quick summary: Teachers want to go back to work in as normal a fashion as possible given the situation we are in Teachers want to go back to work in line with public health guidelines Teachers are not refusing to work Teachers are not looking for extra money for themselves but are looking for the Department to fund schools adequately so that they can follow public health advice Teachers have been working from March 12th up to the official school holidays Teachers and individual schools cannot and will not decide when and how schools will open, that is the remit of the Department of Education Many teachers are parents too and acutely aware of the childcare issues involved All other workplaces have increased health and safety measures in place depending on their circumstances, whether that be perspex screens/new work place protocols/social distancing/time limits/PPE etc. What exactly is your problem with this? I'm assuming this is what is meant by the term covid secure but I'm not sure.
Rodin wrote: » You may not. Someone too lazy to run a spelling/grammar check should not be giving advice on anything.
iamwhoiam wrote: » The Government made a huge mistake by not keeping schools open for frontline workers . In the UK they did and a rota of teachers and SNAs looked after the kids in the schools . It worked really well according to a friend of mine and the frontline workers could go to work knowing the children were looked after Frontline workers here were let down badly in this regard
[Deleted User] wrote: » It's amazing that everybody goes quiet when the mention of contact hours comes up.
Rodin wrote: » Unless there's a clear definition then there can be no meeting the standard. If the unions want something from government then they need to give a CLEAR set of terms... not waffle. No 'more this' and 'less that.'
khalessi wrote: » I would presume the person giving the advice did not type it up. Normally they dont, they have secretaries and possibly missed the spelling error. It happens in all walks of life. So don't be harsh.
s1ippy wrote: » AFAIK secondary schools have 8h per day where students attend, 5d pw so that's 40h each week for teachers on a full contract. They also have to do an additional 33h unpaid each year where the work will be outlined by the school management (not their own planning etc). Primary schools have 6h per day, 5d pw and Croke Park hours add on an additional 36h per year of course work and CPD assigned by management.
Rodin wrote: » So teachers have 40 hours contact time from Monday to Friday? I think you'll find they fall far short of that. I certainly was never in school from 9-5 Monday to Friday. Have things changed?
Dublingirl80 wrote: » If teachers refuse to work in a room without Distancing/ safety measures/ hygiene standards etc then the country will be in a much worse position. Personally I'd rather work somewhere with safety measures come September. What if every teacher who did not wish to work in these unsafe work conditions was granted unpaid health and safety leave? My guess is a good portion would be out. And good luck to all the posters here then they can train up and become a teacher if they think it's so great. They are more than welcome to join and there is plenty of space. Hope you enjoy working in the only workplace with no covid19 health ans safety measures in place.
s1ippy wrote: » I've no idea. How is this relevant to covid?
Rodin wrote: » So teachers have 40 hours contact time from Monday to Friday? I think you'll find they fall far short of that.
Rodin wrote: » Plenty of space? Not the impression I'm getting from the unions.
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