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How many people on Boards have a mask and if so are you wearing them for essential trips? And this late in the day where can you get one that is going to be half decent and not from a suspect seller who could have done anything to it?

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Away With The Fairies

polesheep wrote: »

And where would a person who thinks like this stop?

And where would someone like you start?

Here's a comment that was on twitter... Someone going through cancer treatment asking you to wear a mask.

I bet you still don't care.

xhomelezz

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

Why weren't we urged to wear them three months ago then?

You can thank all the clowns in charge who did everything to avoid over 1700 dead peeps in 5 million population, great result isn't it. Plus you can thank all the cry babies complaining about restrictions and freedom, all the clowns saying I won't wear one, cuz I don't give a ... Anyway masks are not life saver on it's own, but we should put it together with all other important measures. Maybe country would be open much faster to avoid all other impacts. Yet we still arguing here on masks. Kills me, seriously. Any country who implemented them in early stage does far better. We'll be facing local outbreaks and spikes, as we can see in countries which eased up restrictions earlier, so to control and suppres them, masks should be implemented. Don't forget how easy health system can get fcked up here.

Seanergy

Simply recommending the use of masks has now clearly been shown to be insufficient, especially given earlier communications from health authorities that advised against mask use or left the matter to personal choice. If you look around the world, it seems the only way to do it in a country where masking is not a pre-existing cultural norm is to make them mandatory.

Juwwi

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

No one has an agenda to make masks mandatory forever. We're in a pandemic, masks help. And yes you do have a desire to infect others with your refusal to wear a mask.

I wouldn't bother feeding the trolls , anti masks ,anti vaccines , anti government , anti RTE ,, there has been an influx of these posters most nearly all new members joined up since April /May with an agenda .

Away With The Fairies

Juwwi wrote: »

I wouldn't bother feeding the trolls , anti masks ,anti vaccines , anti government , anti RTE ,, there has been an influx of these posters most nearly all new members joined up since April /May with an agenda .

There's no agenda, just protect each other. I don't want to catch it and you don't either, so both of us wearing a mask, we protect each other. I don't understand how that is now seen as an agenda.

Hrududu

polesheep wrote: »

I asked because I believe that there is an agenda with some people to make mask wearing mandatory in certain situations indefinitely. I have no desire to infect others.

Genuinely curious about what you mean. What would the agenda be? Companies that sell masks pushing this to make more money if they’re mandatory? Something else?

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stephenjmcd wrote: »

Did you wear a mask to protect others out of the kindness of your heart before covid?

I'm going to pre-empt your reply as being no, so when there's a vaccine and its rolled out you'll keep wearing one to protect people from head colds ?

I'm sorry but its impossible to take that seriously. When a suitable treatment and or vaccine is developed mask wearing won't be a thing

I did when I was sick and coughing a lot in December. It was only for one day before I was bedbound for four. Guess I've lived in Asia so long that some of that social responsibility nonsense rubbed off on me.

MadYaker

polesheep wrote: »

That was certainly one of the failures. Wearing a mask in a healthcare setting, however, cannot be compared to mandatory mask wearing in general society.

So they just magically stop working outside hospitals?

Masks will be more important than ever now as things start to open up and there’s less social distancing.

Pablo Escobar

Hrududu wrote: »

Genuinely curious about what you mean. What would the agenda be? Companies that sell masks pushing this to make more money if they’re mandatory? Something else?

The “agenda” usually crumbles when you request detail around it.

ExMachina1000

Juwwi wrote: »

I wouldn't bother feeding the trolls , anti masks ,anti vaccines , anti government , anti RTE ,, there has been an influx of these posters most nearly all new members joined up since April /May with an agenda .

People are entitled to their own views and opinions without someone rando preaching down to them or giving personal abuse.

Check your lane. That's out of order

Pablo Escobar

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

People are entitled to their own views and opinions without someone rando preaching down to them or giving personal abuse.

Check your lane. That's out of order

But opinions should never trump facts. Allowing opinions as much validity as facts has caused a little more than a few problems in recent years.

ExMachina1000

Pablo Escobar wrote: »

But opinions should never trump facts. Allowing opinions as much validity as facts has caused a little more than a few problems in recent years.

Anti gov ,anti rte?

What facts are these ?

"Allowing opinions " talk is a slippery slope. You don't get to decide friend.

Pablo Escobar

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Anti gov ,anti rte?

What facts are these ?

"Allowing opinions " talk is a slippery slope. You don't get to decide friend.

No idea what your first line is about.

The “facts” would clearly be dependent on the topic. It doesn’t change that they shouldn’t be trumped by opinions.

I do get to decide what I allow, which was my point. If people think critically, they deny a platform for alternative “facts”.

seefin

If use filter in cloth mask will they also protect the wearer? Whats the best and cheapest idea for filter? Might be answered further back but can't plough through the whole thread

ExMachina1000

Pablo Escobar wrote: »

No idea what your first line is about.

The “facts” would clearly be dependent on the topic. It doesn’t change that they shouldn’t be trumped by opinions.

I do get to decide what I allow, which was my point. If people think critically, they deny a platform for alternative “facts”.

You don't have to listen of course. But you don't get to decide what people think,type or say.

ShyMets

Just go back form my local Super Value and was pleasantly surprised by the amount of people wearing masks/face coverings.

Probably about 50%

Seanergy

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What does a mask do? Blocks respiratory droplets coming from your mouth and throat.

Two simple demos:

First, I sneezed, sang, talked & coughed toward an agar culture plate with or without a mask. Bacteria colonies show where droplets landed. A mask blocks virtually all of them.

What about keeping your distance?

Second demo: I set open bacteria culture plates 2, 4 and 6 feet away and coughed (hard) for ~15s. I repeated this without a mask.

As seen by number of bacteria colonies, droplets mostly landed <6 ft, but a mask blocked nearly all of them.

Boggles

Seanergy you are wasting your time with your pesky science.

We have reached the argument of 'Meee Fredums' when it comes to people not wearing a mask.

railer201

ShyMets wrote: »

Just go back form my local Super Value and was pleasantly surprised by the amount of people wearing masks/face coverings.

Probably about 50%

The majority wearing them in Dunne's stores the other day. Without out a vaccine it seems with mask wearing we've reached the 'Last Chance Saloon' but it will work if everyone buys into it.

railer201

seefin wrote: »

If use filter in cloth mask will they also protect the wearer? Whats the best and cheapest idea for filter? Might be answered further back but can't plough through the whole thread

Posts 1 - 1000 probably the most relevant, use the search function with words like 'filter' 'meltblown' 'cotton' 'brushed'. The noise and general messing started after post 1000. There really is some valuable information, tests, data etc., early on in this thread.

Seanergy

Boggles wrote: »

Seanergy you are wasting your time with your pesky science.

We have reached the argument of 'Meee Fredums' when it comes to people not wearing a mask.

Your so right, how's 'Meee Fredums' gunna get anything from an Agar culture plate.

Droplet spread from saying 'do you have an peppper' over a pint of the black stuff at the bar for your 9 euro dinner.

Stark

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

People are entitled to their own views and opinions without someone rando preaching down to them or giving personal abuse.

Check your lane. That's out of order

Oh here we go with "muh freedum of speech first amendment rights, you're not alllowed disagree with mah sacred opinions!".

ExMachina1000

Stark wrote: »

Oh here we go with "muh freedum of speech first amendment rights, you're not alllowed disagree with mah sacred opinions!".

That's the United states of America you are thinking of.

Different country, different culture,different constitution.

My post said no such thing.

Elmer Blooker

Seanergy wrote: »

As seen by number of bacteria colonies, droplets mostly landed <6 ft, but a mask blocked nearly all of them.

But then the mask is covered in bacteria? How can microscopic bacteria be 'blocked'?

polesheep

Hrududu wrote: »

Genuinely curious about what you mean. What would the agenda be? Companies that sell masks pushing this to make more money if they’re mandatory? Something else?

There are vulnerable people and hypochondriacs who have lobbied for mask wearing before Covid-19 arrived. They see this as an opportunity to push for their cause. I know it's a very small group of people, but the tail has been wagging the dog throughout all of this.

polesheep

MadYaker wrote: »

So they just magically stop working outside hospitals?

Masks will be more important than ever now as things start to open up and there’s less social distancing.

Different settings require different measures.

polesheep

Pablo Escobar wrote: »

The “agenda” usually crumbles when you request detail around it.

Patience is a virtue. Not everyone sits up all night on the Internet.

railer201

Seanergy wrote: »

Your so right, how's 'Meee Fredums' gunna get anything from an Agar culture plate.

Droplet spread from saying 'do you have an peppper' over a pint of the black stuff at the bar for your 9 euro dinner.

When the 'logic sets in' the social distancing will be out the window, and masks won't work in a pub setting for obvious reasons ! I'd be inclined to bring my own pint glass, or better still those tankards with the hinged lids.

polesheep

Pablo Escobar wrote: »

No idea what your first line is about.

The “facts” would clearly be dependent on the topic. It doesn’t change that they shouldn’t be trumped by opinions.

I do get to decide what I allow, which was my point. If people think critically, they deny a platform for alternative “facts”.

I see a lot of opinions on the forum, which I would expect to see. I don't see a lot of alternative facts. Are you saying that people should not express an opinion on an Internet forum designed for that very thing?

polesheep

ShyMets wrote: »

Just go back form my local Super Value and was pleasantly surprised by the amount of people wearing masks/face coverings.

Probably about 50%

I just got back from Aldi and it was no more than about 20%. One man outside who was wearing a mask gave me €2 for my trolley as I was leaving it back. That was the first time that has happened since Covid-19 began.