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How many people on Boards have a mask and if so are you wearing them for essential trips? And this late in the day where can you get one that is going to be half decent and not from a suspect seller who could have done anything to it?

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Away With The Fairies

watlantic wrote: »

Mask drinking next:
https://www.facebook.com/irishtv/videos/674659986722028/

Ways around everything, so much easier than slipping it up and down the face.

Ficheall

weldoninhio wrote: »

No mask for me. Doubt i'll need it, but a colleague has said they'll do me a letter stating that I cannot wear a mask as I find restricts my breathing and causes panic attacks.

Does that mean you work in a medical setting? Because that is concerning.

odyssey06

weldoninhio wrote: »

No mask for me. Doubt i'll need it, but a colleague has said they'll do me a letter stating that I cannot wear a mask as I find restricts my breathing and causes panic attacks.

Your colleague should be struck off.

Arrival

polesheep wrote: »

I am not selfish. For months I have restricted my life for the benefit of others. However, the general population cannot be restricted forever. The only way vulnerable people can live a full life is with a vaccine and you cannot expect those who are not vulnerable to live restricted lives until one is found. If you are vulnerable take good care of yourself, but I am no longer willing to live my life as though I were a vulnerable person.

So you respected the lockdown, an extreme measure which had us all at home and isolated from our families and other people but you draw the line at covering your nose and mouth with a bit of fabric, a measure which allows us to actually get back out and around people. Both of these measures work towards the same goal: slowing the spread and flattening the curve. It makes absolutely no sense to be on board with such an extreme measure as the lockdown but not a fairly reasonable one as wearing a mask in certain situations and areas

If the guidance on masks is right then wearing a mask helps contribute positively towards reducing the speed of the virus spreading, making it less likely it spreads to vulnerable people and buys time for researchers to find a vaccine or reliable treatment. If the guidelines on masks are wrong, we've only been minorly inconvenienced by wearing a simple mask at certain times

I'd say as time goes on and more people wear them you'll follow along because you'll start being one of the few people not wearing them and you'll feel all self conscious and pressured to wear one. It'll be good that you will start wearing one, but the reasoning behind it pathetic as opposed to just doing the right and considerate thing from here onwards

Boggles

Ficheall wrote: »

Does that mean you work in a medical setting? Because that is concerning.

I imagine he thinks Tony from stores can tap him up an exemption letter.

Away With The Fairies

Ficheall wrote: »

Does that mean you work in a medical setting? Because that is concerning.

Was thinking the same.

Arrival

weldoninhio wrote: »

No mask for me. Doubt i'll need it, but a colleague has said they'll do me a letter stating that I cannot wear a mask as I find restricts my breathing and causes panic attacks.

Aww you fragile softie, better get a canister of oxygen as well. I've bad asthma and wear one, you're laughable

weldoninhio

Arrival wrote: »

Aww you fragile softie, better get a canister of oxygen as well. I've bad asthma and wear one, you're laughable

I don't actually get panic attacks brainiac. :rolleyes:

But it'll work.

Arrival

Irish Aris wrote: »

I would be one of the people that don't wear a mask when going to the supermarket.
Since the restrictions started I got into a routine where I go to the supermarket in non busy hours, usually late in the evening on weekdays, where in many cases there was no queue to get in because of how few people are in it. I always go with a list, sorted by aisle (no browsing around, if it isn't on the list, I don't really need it). The whole thing takes less than 10 minutes, so I never saw the need to wear a mask, I consider the risk extremely low.

I do wear a mask on public transport, as my trip would be an hour long. At the moment I am in the minority, but hopefully as capacity increases, common sense will make more people wear one.

You seem to still think masks are supported for protecting yourself, but this isn't the reasoning. You should wear a mask on the off chance you have the virus, as many people who get it are asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic, to help reduce the amount of droplets you would spread while in the shop or on the train or bus. We spread droplets from simply breathing and talking, and even more from coughing and sneezing, so if you happened to be infected you're potentially spreading droplets on surfaces in the shop

To be as safe towards other people as possible we wear masks

Boggles

weldoninhio wrote: »

I don't actually get panic attacks brainiac. :rolleyes:

But it'll work.

Who exactly from work is going to give you an exemption from wearing a mask outside work?

Unless of course you are a bus driver, are you?

Arrival

weldoninhio wrote: »

I don't actually get panic attacks brainiac. :rolleyes:

But it'll work.

I didn't think you did, it's absolutely sad how much effort you'll put in to avoid not covering your face for the few minutes you'd have to. People like you would be absolutely hopeless and useless during a crisis like a war or natural disaster

Sconsey

weldoninhio wrote: »

I don't actually get panic attacks brainiac. :rolleyes:

But it'll work.

Ah so you are just a liar. You must be very proud of yourself.

Sconsey

weldoninhio wrote: »

No it's not.

My mistake, it is not yet, but it will be soon. I look forward to it, you can maybe lie your way onto the bus.

polesheep

Arrival wrote: »

So you respected the lockdown, an extreme measure which had us all at home and isolated from our families and other people but you draw the line at covering your nose and mouth with a bit of fabric, a measure which allows us to actually get back out and around people. Both of these measures work towards the same goal: slowing the spread and flattening the curve. It makes absolutely no sense to be on board with such an extreme measure as the lockdown but not a fairly reasonable one as wearing a mask in certain situations and areas

If the guidance on masks is right then wearing a mask helps contribute positively towards reducing the speed of the virus spreading, making it less likely it spreads to vulnerable people and buys time for researchers to find a vaccine or reliable treatment. If the guidelines on masks are wrong, we've only been minorly inconvenienced by wearing a simple mask at certain times

I'd say as time goes on and more people wear them you'll follow along because you'll start being one of the few people not wearing them and you'll feel all self conscious and pressured to wear one. It'll be good that you will start wearing one, but the reasoning behind it pathetic as opposed to just doing the right and considerate thing from here onwards

No, I feel I've had enough.

Vulnerable people will have to take their own precautions.

I never feel self-conscious and haven't conformed to pressure since I was a teenager many years ago.

Seanergy

polesheep wrote: »

No, I feel I've had enough.

Vulnerable people will have to take their own precautions.

I never feel self-conscious and haven't conformed to pressure since I was a teenager many years ago.

Reckon you don't feel anything at all, your numb. It's not conforming to pressure, it's about manning up and taking responsibility to fight the virus for the vulnerable and maybe just we don't end up in another mudderducking lockdown.

Feel free to stop posting on this thread.

everlast75

everlast75 wrote: »

What exactly is the reason *not* to wear one?

Is it based on perceived facts?

Is it based on people not liking what they are being asked to do/anti-establishment?

Is it recklessness?

I don't get it. None of the above are reasons not to wear one!?

polesheep wrote: »

Here's my reason: I don't want to wear one. For months now I have endured severe restrictions on my lifestyle for the sake of those who were considered vulnerable to the virus. I consider that I have done my bit. If people from the vulnerable cohort still feel at risk then they will have to cocoon. I am not prepared to live my life based on the level of risk to certain others indefinitely. And that includes wearing a mask.

Ah - I see. I missed one reason.

Selfishness.

Seanergy

Waiting for confirmation.... this could be Ireland's first cost price for the public surgical mask production line, based on soundness.

https://twitter.com/Measc_ie/status/1276455171707396097

polesheep

everlast75 wrote: »

Ah - I see. I missed one reason.

Selfishness.

Yes, everyone who isn't prepared to live the life of a vulnerable person is selfish.:rolleyes:

Tork

Not everybody who is vulnerable knows they are.

[Deleted User]

Tork wrote: »

Not everybody who is vulnerable knows they are.

Yep, it's not like diabetes is a headache. You don't wake up one morning and think Jaysus I think my blood sugar is a bit high. It often takes years for it to be discovered.

And Ireland in my experience has fairly low levels of medical checkups amongst young people. I'm forced to do one every two years for my work permit where I live.

Away With The Fairies

polesheep wrote: »

I choose not to wear one. If forced to wear one then my freedom has been restricted.

Nobody has the freedom to infect others.

odyssey06

Deleted User wrote: »

Yep, it's not like diabetes is a headache. You don't wake up one morning and think Jaysus I think my blood sugar is a bit high. It often takes years for it to be discovered.
And Ireland in my experience has fairly low levels of medical checkups amongst young people. I'm forced to do one every two years for my work permit where I live.

Similarly there could be lots of people with undiagnosed high blood pressure.

everlast75

polesheep wrote: »

Yes, everyone who isn't prepared to live the life of a vulnerable person is selfish.:rolleyes:

Exactly how much does it inconvenience you to put a mask on?

Is the necessity to live your life *exactly* as you would do normally so important that it overrides such a minor inconvenience, even if doing so could possibly save the life of another?

I just don't get the complete disregard for civic responsibility.

At this stage, it seems purely recalcitrant.

brick tamland

I think many on here are over stating the effectiveness of masks

Id be all for wearing Masks on Public Transport or in a hospital waiting room ect but I think many are getting carried away on the effectiveness in supermarkets and the likes.

Guidance is not to be within 2 meters for more than 15 mins. Its safe to say I've never been within 2 meters of anyone in a shop for more than 15 mins, ever. In fact i see more people in mask adjusting them/playing with while touching their faces, to me that seems like more of a risk.

Better hand hygine and distancing are way more effective than masks. I've seen very few (if any) staff in supermarkets wearing masks yet there have been no outbreaks that i know of, and staff would be working for hours at a time.

Irish Aris

Arrival wrote: »

You seem to still think masks are supported for protecting yourself, but this isn't the reasoning. You should wear a mask on the off chance you have the virus, as many people who get it are asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic, to help reduce the amount of droplets you would spread while in the shop or on the train or bus. We spread droplets from simply breathing and talking, and even more from coughing and sneezing, so if you happened to be infected you're potentially spreading droplets on surfaces in the shop

To be as safe towards other people as possible we wear masks

I still feel that in a supermarket the risk is low, and basing that on there haven't been many cases attributed to commercial stores (at least not yet)
But I get your point that there is still a risk.

Neyite

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Do you say the same about condoms?

That's only a consideration if you are sexually active

polesheep wrote: »

Yes, everyone who isn't prepared to live the life of a vulnerable person is selfish.:rolleyes:

The other day, I hugged my mother for the first time since the beginning of March. That's the first physical contact she's had with a single soul. She cried. I cried. She's cocooned and given up her fairly active retirement to stay safe as she is vulnerable. Covid will surely kill her if she gets it.

Now she's finally allowed out. She can pick the brand of bread or beans she prefers rather than me guessing and getting her the ones she dislikes. She can do her own errands in short safe bursts but she's still very cautious. And she's scared. She's not bothered about dying, but she is scared of being stuck, alone in a hospital with none of her family there at the end.

Even in lockdown you had more freedom than she did. Nobody is asking you to live like she did for the last 5 months. They are just asking that when you are near other people in a closed environment, you wear something to cover your nose and mouth like the rest of us so that we can keep the rates of infections low enough for us ALL to go about our business the way we used to.

You have the right to insist that wearing something over your nose and mouth for a short amount of time somehow enslaves you. I have the right to decide you are a selfish, self centred person for not wearing a mask, and judge you accordingly.

ExMachina1000

everlast75 wrote: »

What exactly is the reason *not* to wear one?

Is it based on perceived facts?

Is it based on people not liking what they are being asked to do/anti-establishment?

Is it recklessness?

I don't get it. None of the above are reasons not to wear one!?

I'd say it's the third one.

everlast75

brick tamland wrote: »

Better hand hygine and distancing are way more effective than masks.

Why does it have to be an either or situation?

brick tamland wrote: »

I've seen very few (if any) staff in supermarkets wearing masks yet there have been no outbreaks that i know of, and staff would be working for hours at a time.

Personally, I have never known anyone who has been to the moon. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just because you haven't heard of an outbreak (not that it needs to be one for someone to have caught it), doesn't mean someone wasn't infected.

Again - there is no reason given in your answer as to why you should not or do not wear a mask?

weldoninhio

Sconsey wrote: »

My mistake, it is not yet, but it will be soon. I look forward to it, you can maybe lie your way onto the bus.

Already sorted.

JoChervil

polesheep wrote: »

No, I feel I've had enough.

Vulnerable people will have to take their own precautions.

I never feel self-conscious and haven't conformed to pressure since I was a teenager many years ago.

Ach, I see you are stuck in a rebellious teenage times...