weldoninhio wrote: » 1600+ died WITH Covid-19, not necessarily OF Covid-19. Over 60% of those deaths were in nursing homes. Over 91% of the totals deaths were over 65s. The most vulnerable of society, who were hung out to dry by the govt and Tony Holohan. ]
Darc19 wrote: » Sounds like a textbook SF shill response, but why do NI not count ALL deaths with Covid-19 like they do here in the republic of Ireland Or maybe NI can explain over 1200 more deaths than average in the period March and April
Boggles wrote: » I'd go further than that, you can't actually answer your questions without knowing the answer to that one. You stick to what we know, we know potentially it can travel up to 8 meters, what we don't know is if it will infect a person at that distance. When you are dealing in unknowns, you side with caution. 1 or 2 or 3 meter rule is indeed arbitrary nonsense.It should have just been called "the stay the fúck away from each as much as possible rule".
Boggles wrote: » Almost three-quarters of close contacts of Covid-19 patients show no symptoms "Don't wear a mask if you are healthy" has well and truly been debunked.
Wibbs wrote: » It has B, but no matter what the evidence most will refuse to wear a mask almost entirely based on the "I don't want to look like a bleedin spa with one of those on my face" principle. That's 90% of it IMHO. Now if the government tell them to(and pigs might fly) then they will, because well authority an' that.
Away With The Fairies wrote: » https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/face-mask-rules-each-irelands-18304918 And here we have Dunnes stores encouraging glove wearing. "we continue to recommend the HSE guidelines of continuing to wash hands every 30 minutes as one of the most important measures in stopping the spread of the Covid 19 Coronavirus." Washing hands is all good... but an illness that is spread by respiratory droplets. But sure, let's continue on without masks.
Seanergy wrote: » Sometimes I feel the aversion to wear masks is greater than covid-19. I fear people are just trying to buy themsleves some mask free time because they know deep down that mask wearing is obvious common sense to reducing viral loads in communal air and on communal surfaces. The elephant in the room questions, When covid-19 is over do we get to go back to life without a mask? What about the other 200 or so annual flu's? Where does it stop if we start? Even though the shops are willing to stick with HSE advice we still have the transport union pushing hard for mandatory wearing of face coverings on public transport. Wouldn't surprise me if we saw more noise in the message with mandatory facecoverings introduced on public transport and a choice for shoppers in shops. Afterall the Cork Beo pushed out the mask article regarding the GARDA not wearing masks and low and behold afew weeks later.
EasyCody wrote: » Hope this DIY Mask does it for you
all about the mane wrote: » I have access to masks but wouldn’t wear them unless I am up close with a symptomatic covid19 person.
Kivaro wrote: » Guess we'll see that authority (or the people's interpretation of it) in action this long weekend. We could be in the final phase of the lock-down by now if 'our' government were decisive at the early stages of this pandemic in Ireland. It was simple really ..... could have looked over at Italy and planned accordingly: immediate lock-down and a law-driven quarantine of people entering the country, protection of the elderly and vulnerable (should have been the priority), social distancing rules enforced, hygiene education/psa's .................. and masks for everyone in the country. But no, due to the bumbling keystone authorities we are now unnecessarily in Phase 19 (part a) of this lock-down.
Man Vs ManUre wrote: » Today I wore the mask for the first time on a trip to the supermarket. I have to say I did not like it. And as at least 90% people are not wearing it, what’s the point really. I don’t think I will do again. I dunno if I would be able to do a long haul flight wearing it.
McGiver wrote: » Czech lockdown lasted 2 months. At any stage were people banned from a) going to and from work and b) making any sort of private trips. As long as they wore a mask and didn't congregate in groups. They are reopened now, masks not needed outside just indoors, restaurants are opened masks and distancing required, borders are sort of closed though - countries categorised into green, orange and red, people coming from red countries are barred entry, people from orange countries are tested and quarantined, people from green countries have a free entry. Unemployment won't be more than 6-7%, pre Covid it was 2-3%. Compare with 4 months of house arrest here and the overall situation (15-20% unemployment predicted etc).
Jim_Hodge wrote: » How do you eat in a restaurant with a mask on? House arrest? Pure exaggeration ruins any argument. Their economy is expected to have, as a result of Covid measures, a GDP -6.5% this year and +5% in 2021 compared to our projected -7.1% & +6.3%.
McGiver wrote: » Question for the anti-mask crowd. Can you please explain to me how face masks can be ineffective, useless etc if airlines mandate them on flights now?
Seanergy wrote: » Unfortunately the majority need to be instructed to act with a small amount of decency. Iv'e always favoured the Irish physce till recently. Should have been compulsory in the return to work(RTW) package published 9 may, but wasn't, the focus was tissues and hand washing. There is a footnote in the RTW package which allows for changes to happen but it's like you could have been leading to, it should have been layed out from 9 MAY for a safer experience for not just office work but all work. City run double deckers won't operate a 17 person capacity @ 2meters succesfully. They will be looking to reducing to 1meter in an attempt to double passengers or very few people will be able to get to and from anywhere. To do this they will need to make face coverings mandatory. Maybe we should all just start sending Leo homemade masks and bra's, tea towels and socks so that he can make his own.
1641 wrote: » Without getting into the pros and cons of masks generally, I would guess the main reason the airlines are mandating them on flights is to increase the confidence of prospective flyers. It promotes an increased sense of safety in a very visible way (whether effective or not). It is good for business. It is a bit like the anti-aircraft barrages launched nightly in London during the 1940 blitz. They had a very limited impact on the Luftwaffe but they did wonders for morale of the civilians on the ground who believed "we are letting them have it".
