Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Great news from Germany, not lockdown related but more of covid19 related " Germany is carrying out Europe’s first large-scale coronavirus antibody testing to help assess infection rates and monitor the spread of the virus. One doctor involved in testing for antibodies is Ulrike Leimer-Lipke. For these antibodies test to make sense, you must have had symptoms about four weeks beforehand," she explained. "Antibodies take a relatively long time to appear. If you only had symptoms last week, you wouldn't have antibodies by now. We know that, especially in Germany, a lot of people already had it. And it is also very important for them, especially if they have a grandmother, mother or father whom they look after, to know whether they are already immune." Last point is spot on. That is the way forward, according to German doctors anyways. I trust German cars, I ll trust their doctors too. Committed.
Deleted User wrote: » And proud of it too, Jesus!
AdamD wrote: » This really is the hottest of takes. Like if you thought about this for about 8 seconds it would be pretty obvious why you are seeing more people running and cycling. Gyms are closed Sports are off, so that's not training and no matches. Do you realise how many people in this country play sports? You are taking them out of that and most will replace it with going for a run. Of course there will be more people running in parks and cyclying.
One of the intriguing observations during the pandemic has been the marked reduction in patients coming to hospital with acute heart attacks or strokes. Our initial worry was that people were frightened to come in when they needed to - suffering their symptoms at home rather than risking getting infected in hospital. This may still turn out to be the case, but heart attacks and strokes are the sort of episodes in which you would expect patients to seek help.
Fitbit has found that during lockdown average resting heart rates have fallen.
While step counts have also fallen, the number of active minutes has actually gone up - people have swapped desk-based routines for more mobile routines at home. Sleep duration has also increased with people going to bed earlier than normal and sleeping longer
The population of Sweden, a country that did not have a shelter-in-place lockdown enforced, did not experience resting heart rate improvements.
peasant wrote: » An interesting bit of news there ... Pharmacies, which at no point were affected by the lockdown and always open for business are in financial trouble: I would have thought they are doing better than ever, but there you go...https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/covid-19-pharmacies-hit-with-surging-costs-lay-off-staff-997888.html
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » This is crazy stuff, you keep talking about an island that has following as of 5th May " Hokkaido recorded 31 new infection cases, a level that has remained constant in recent days. Of those cases, Sapporo, Hokkaido's capital, marked a record high 29 new cases in a single day. Total deaths in the northernmost main island reached 43" Their total deaths is 43. They clearly want to shut down 3 4 5 times to avoid 2 people dying. Clearly 0 risk appetite. You can not do this on a country level friend. regardless of how much land they have lol.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Minister for finance says govt. strategy will help Ireland avoid 2nd wave, in response to NZ PM saying Ireland is very slow.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Ahh the dreaded 2nd wave applicable to Ireland only.
hopalongcass wrote: » If you are under the age of 30 i think you can get a pass for being naive and not having seen the full effects of the last bailout,if you are 40 and above you are a shill plain and simple life is going good for you,so you are oblivious to the suffering that was on this island this last 10 years and are cheering on for a doubling down of the last one. You can be proud to have sold your Irish brothers and sisters down the river all you want,i for one am not proud of what went on here and is being done again,even though i had no part in it. You may or may not had a part in the last one but you are playing your part in this one,so claim all the Irishness you want while you are condemning our future generations to debt slavery,but i know who the real Irish are.
Tommybojangles wrote: » What's interesting is how the public or some of the public think they're more clued in than most politicians
Retail sales are down 36% One in five pharmacies have laid off staff while a further 38% will do so in the next three months Greatest costs relate to social distancing with over two thirds (68%) installing new counter screens to protect patients and staff 25% of surveyed pharmacies had reached their credit limit with medicine wholesalers 30% of respondents indicated that they had difficulty in ordering key medicines for patients due to reaching their credit limit.
is_that_so wrote: » What's interesting in this is how the public or some of the public are more clued into what's going on than most politicians. I find some of the contributions and lack of knowledge as bad as the journalists in the daily briefings!
partyguinness wrote: » The old vote. The young tweet. You assume everyone has a garden?
And no Kids were not "bunkered" for two months. Kids could go out and exercise with their parents etc and where possible play in their garden etc. They still can.
Deleted User wrote: » New Zealand were not holding us up as an example of what not to do, we were being used an an example of what they would have had to do if things had not come under control, and may still have to do if they are not vigilant. And don't claim to know anything about my motivations for posting here, I have my own mind, apply my own critical thinking and form my own opinions which align with different sides on different issues. And I will never not be proud to be Irish, no matter who is in power or what decisions are been taken, so don't let the door hit you on the way out.
partyguinness wrote: » I think with hind sight there is a distinct possibility that history will say we overreacted.
is_that_so wrote: » What's interesting in this is how the public or some of the public are more clued into what's doing on than politicians. I find some of the contributions and lack of knowledge as bad as the journalists in the daily briefings!
easypazz wrote: » Open the fcuking country. Improve testing. Shield the vulnerable groups Social distance as much as is practical. Temporary hospital capacity available at a realistic price, and available at short notice, as in have access to parts of state owned facilities Army to store sufficient medical equipment so that additional hospital capacity can be made available at short notice. Do it all by the end of June, this July 20th to travel 20kM and August 10th to partial opening of bars etc. is not a realistic plan at all.
easypazz wrote: » Plenty of availability on booking.com for Dublin tomorrow night. I doubt they will ask any questions when you arrive at the desk.............
thegetawaycar wrote: » Is there a party in the Dail arguing against the lockdown? SF seem to be advocating against opening up too soon, FF and FG clearly happy to have it for the moment. The funny thing in this thread is the amount of left leaning posters pushing to open up and put business before people. There's a plan to re-open and relax restrictions but you will never have everyone happy because everyone believes they know better.
partyguinness wrote: » Some people talk a lot of sense. Hard to find these days.
Penfailed wrote: » How can you determine who one votes for unless they actually tell you? I've seen this 'shinnerbot' term thrown around all over the place. It's pure guesswork.
hopalongcass wrote: » Not virtually every one else is doing what we are doing,hardly any of them are doing what we are doing,we are being used as an example of how not to do it by NZ,that should tell you something considering we never even got overrun with it like Italy.But yet our restrictions are worse than anyone,Britain locked down after us and are now opening up way ahead of us and they had far more deaths,its pathetic,how corrupt and weak our leaders have always been. There's 3 kinds of people on these forums,there is the shills like yourself happy gleaming a few crumbs of the elites table so will defend this rubbish to the death. Then there is the people in the middle who naively believe governments and banks aren't screwing them into the ground and its just how it is. Then there is the people who know how it is,they know politicians are just pawns of the banks and don't give a jot if half their population dies as long as they line their pockets.So why now are they so bothered about saving a few lives.It reeks and some of us can see the obvious. I would bet if i searched the threads you were probably on the Simon Harris appreciation thread a few weeks back.All the while completely forgetting the blood on his hands from the smear test scandal,he didn't give a jot how many women died as long as he done the deal with the pharma company,no doubt getting secret handshakes for signing these death deals to multiple Irish women. Now hes got his hands on the pot of gold and he isn't gonna easily let go of his opportunity to keep digging into that bond market,as evidenced by his shills all across these boards.Pushing and pushing for more lockdowns more debt when hardly anybody is dying and nobody healthy or young. Some of us have been around too long to fall for the same rubbish again and again more austerity off course, economic turmoil inflicted on us by our own patriotic leaders,just like the last time when we decided to bail out private business at the expense of us all and these same banks we saved won't give the same people a penny now to build their own houses,couldn't make it up how pathetic and weak we are as a country.I used to be proud to be Irish that boat long since sailed.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » Somewhat ironic that the shinner bots are so concerned about the economy yet their own party would do more damage to the economy than COVID ever could.
gozunda wrote: » ??? Just to reiterate - I've not made any case for a vaccine eitherway so no idea for your diatribe and shouty capitals tbh. A vacine or otherwise does not change that "herd immunity" remains a theory and unlikely to be of help in relation to Covid-19.
facehugger99 wrote: » There are currently over 1.2 million people wither fully or partially reliant on the State for their income. We can add in the 300,000 public servants to this as well to give us a whopping 1.5 million people drawing money direct from the State coffers. Considering we have a population of only 4.9 million, many of whom are retired or children, you don't need a degree in maths to see how farcical and unsustainable the current situation is. Our hospitals lie mostly empty while we lockdown the working population over a virus that has a minuscule chance of killing them.
Penfailed wrote: » It's not happening in the real world, is it?
Deleted User wrote: » Ah but sure some people here believe you should just let nature takes its course with the elderly and sick who are of no longer of economic use, or was that just you?
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