partyguinness wrote: » The old vote. The young tweet. You assume everyone has a garden?
And no Kids were not "bunkered" for two months. Kids could go out and exercise with their parents etc and where possible play in their garden etc. They still can.
is_that_so wrote: » What's interesting in this is how the public or some of the public are more clued into what's going on than most politicians. I find some of the contributions and lack of knowledge as bad as the journalists in the daily briefings!
Retail sales are down 36% One in five pharmacies have laid off staff while a further 38% will do so in the next three months Greatest costs relate to social distancing with over two thirds (68%) installing new counter screens to protect patients and staff 25% of surveyed pharmacies had reached their credit limit with medicine wholesalers 30% of respondents indicated that they had difficulty in ordering key medicines for patients due to reaching their credit limit.
Tommybojangles wrote: » What's interesting is how the public or some of the public think they're more clued in than most politicians
peasant wrote: » An interesting bit of news there ... Pharmacies, which at no point were affected by the lockdown and always open for business are in financial trouble: I would have thought they are doing better than ever, but there you go...https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/covid-19-pharmacies-hit-with-surging-costs-lay-off-staff-997888.html
hopalongcass wrote: » If you are under the age of 30 i think you can get a pass for being naive and not having seen the full effects of the last bailout,if you are 40 and above you are a shill plain and simple life is going good for you,so you are oblivious to the suffering that was on this island this last 10 years and are cheering on for a doubling down of the last one. You can be proud to have sold your Irish brothers and sisters down the river all you want,i for one am not proud of what went on here and is being done again,even though i had no part in it. You may or may not had a part in the last one but you are playing your part in this one,so claim all the Irishness you want while you are condemning our future generations to debt slavery,but i know who the real Irish are.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » This is crazy stuff, you keep talking about an island that has following as of 5th May " Hokkaido recorded 31 new infection cases, a level that has remained constant in recent days. Of those cases, Sapporo, Hokkaido's capital, marked a record high 29 new cases in a single day. Total deaths in the northernmost main island reached 43" Their total deaths is 43. They clearly want to shut down 3 4 5 times to avoid 2 people dying. Clearly 0 risk appetite. You can not do this on a country level friend. regardless of how much land they have lol.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Minister for finance says govt. strategy will help Ireland avoid 2nd wave, in response to NZ PM saying Ireland is very slow.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Ahh the dreaded 2nd wave applicable to Ireland only.
AdamD wrote: » This really is the hottest of takes. Like if you thought about this for about 8 seconds it would be pretty obvious why you are seeing more people running and cycling. Gyms are closed Sports are off, so that's not training and no matches. Do you realise how many people in this country play sports? You are taking them out of that and most will replace it with going for a run. Of course there will be more people running in parks and cyclying.
One of the intriguing observations during the pandemic has been the marked reduction in patients coming to hospital with acute heart attacks or strokes. Our initial worry was that people were frightened to come in when they needed to - suffering their symptoms at home rather than risking getting infected in hospital. This may still turn out to be the case, but heart attacks and strokes are the sort of episodes in which you would expect patients to seek help.
Fitbit has found that during lockdown average resting heart rates have fallen.
While step counts have also fallen, the number of active minutes has actually gone up - people have swapped desk-based routines for more mobile routines at home. Sleep duration has also increased with people going to bed earlier than normal and sleeping longer
The population of Sweden, a country that did not have a shelter-in-place lockdown enforced, did not experience resting heart rate improvements.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Great news from Germany, not lockdown related but more of covid19 related " Germany is carrying out Europe’s first large-scale coronavirus antibody testing to help assess infection rates and monitor the spread of the virus. One doctor involved in testing for antibodies is Ulrike Leimer-Lipke. For these antibodies test to make sense, you must have had symptoms about four weeks beforehand," she explained. "Antibodies take a relatively long time to appear. If you only had symptoms last week, you wouldn't have antibodies by now. We know that, especially in Germany, a lot of people already had it. And it is also very important for them, especially if they have a grandmother, mother or father whom they look after, to know whether they are already immune." Last point is spot on. That is the way forward, according to German doctors anyways. I trust German cars, I ll trust their doctors too. Committed.
Deleted User wrote: » And proud of it too, Jesus!
partyguinness wrote: » And why wouldn't I be? Just because a few Holy Mary's got a basic lessen in law and economic theory which they did not like I should all of a sudden back track? That says more about you than me with your sheep mentality. I stand by my convictions.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Put yourself in shoes of an 85 year old granddad with 3 grandchildren, he cant hug them now according to govt guidance, there is no indication when he can hug them, and if he asks - he is going to be told "wait for vaccine". This is seriously depressing for any individual. Regardless if they are in good health or bad health.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Ah but sure some people here believe you should just let nature takes its course with the elderly and sick who are of no longer of economic use, or was that just you?
gozunda wrote: » Nope. You must have missed this bit. The point is kids were not "bunkered" as claimed. Painting the current pandemic as a conflict of interests of the selfish old and the powerless youth is absolute rubbish and helps nothing.
hmmm wrote: » Your concern for the elderly is touching, but is in stark contrast to your liking a post about reopening where we are told the elderly and sick "are well beyond their economic use". So maybe spare us the heart strings.
pjohnson wrote: » Ah the "sheep" card. The ultimate trick to refute any modern science or education. Honourable mention to the "old vote young tweet" line regularly used pre election to guarantee SF wouldnt get a significant vote. And we saw how that turned out.
Deleted User wrote: » Tell me, what do you understand a shill to be, because I have no link or relationship, personal, professional or otherwise with any organisation in individuals you seem to suggest I am a shill for. I formulate my own opinion on what I see, read and listen to. And my view is the the recovery from this should see a fundamental reorganisation in the global monetary system more radical than the abandonment of the gold standard and the acceptance that debt on a sovereign level is not a negative but the fundamental underpinning of a countries ability to formulate policy and look after its citizens. Only way out of this from an economic standpoint is to spend, and as long as we can maintain a productive workforce and economy, the level of debt will never matter as we can just refinance ad infinitum (print more money). ECB have already started this with 750bn at a negative rate. Also, as much as we hate bankers, the only way to adequately ensure this liquidity gets distributed to those who need it is through a functional and well regulated banking system
partyguinness wrote: » Okay I have no idea what you are going on about as it is a rather confused post but kudos for shoehorning SF into the debate.
Deleted User wrote: » Long outdated economic theory.
boring accountant wrote: » Nature was always going to take its course. Nature is still taking its course even with the lockdown in place. Shutting down businesses is a massively disproportionate infringement on our rights compared to the dangers posed. The lockdown/cocooning should be made voluntary. Then all but the most shrill authoritarians will get what they want.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » More good news, for us this time " A COVID-19 antibody test, said to be 99.8% accurate, could soon be available in Ireland. The test has been developed by Swiss giant Roche Diagnostics and has already been approved for use in the US. The company, which has a base in Dublin, said its Elecsys test has a specificity greater than 99.8% and sensitivity of 100% - meaning it gives no false negative results and only one in 500 false positives. The antibody test indicates whether a patient has been exposed to the virus and recovered." Boy i'd love this. I got to fly to Spain end of August, would be pretty handy to get such test, hopefully I've had covid and off I go enjoying beer in south of Spain without any fears of being stopped at checkpoints for mask inspection whatnot.
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